Proof that this "tournament" is a joke.

Rafa24

Hall of Fame
Medvedev phoned in his last match as expected allowing zverev to take the last spot in the semis. Medvedev didn't try at all.

Pretty lame when a person who is already out of the "tournament" plays in a match that influences the outcome of who makes the semis.
 

Surion

Hall of Fame
You are a Rafa fan and biased.
Medi lost fair and square.
Your boy lost to Zverev, simple as that.
 

victorcruz

Hall of Fame
I don't care enough. There are too many other sports going on for me to care about some indoor tournament.
 

BorgTheGOAT

Professional
Win all your matches and you will advance like in every other tournament. On top Rafa fans have claimed for years that WTF is crap and they don’t care about Rafa winning it so why being upset now. He will be YE#1, so you should celebrate.
 
Win all your matches and you will advance like in every other tournament. On top Rafa fans have claimed for years that WTF is crap and they don’t care about Rafa winning it so why being upset now. He will be YE#1, so you should celebrate.
Nobody cares about the title. It's just annoying that he wasted so much time and energy to beat Medvedev and Tsitsipas, and all that was for NOTHING. The scheduling was terrible as well. Zverev-Medvedev should have been the first match today, so then Nadal would know he shouldn't try against Tsitsipas.
 

Rafa24

Hall of Fame
Win all your matches and you will advance like in every other tournament. On top Rafa fans have claimed for years that WTF is crap and they don’t care about Rafa winning it so why being upset now. He will be YE#1, so you should celebrate.

I'm annoyed because I wanted to see Fedal. Just like I wanted to see Djokerer yesterday. Now we have a bunch of next gen mugs who can't do **** at slams and fed.


edit-and u can say "win all of your matches" yeah yeah. Guess what? Nobody in the tournament did to make the semis. 5 people won 2 matches. 1 of them got eliminated...
 

BorgTheGOAT

Professional
I'm annoyed because I wanted to see Fedal. Just like I wanted to see Djokerer yesterday. Now we have a bunch of next gen mugs who can't do **** at slams and fed.


edit-and u can say "win all of your matches" yeah yeah. Guess what? Nobody in the tournament did to make the semis. 5 people won 2 matches. 1 of them got eliminated...
I also prefer Fedal over Generation useless, however, if Nadal fails to advance it is what it is. On the other hand, it is not that Federer against Nadal on indoor hard typically gives us great matches. It is generally lopsided as their matches on clay.
 
Medvedev did excellently indeed to win 10 of 23 games despite not trying. If he had tried, he would likely have whitewashed Zverev 6-0 6-0, just as Nadal did the other day. Poor old Zverev really isn't up to it in this event, is he?
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Did Federer win ALL of his matches?

Did Zverev?
Federer was the second best in his group. Nadal wasn't in his. It's that simple. Same for Zverev.

In Nadal's group there were 3 guys with equal chances to qualify. Just deal with the fact that Nadal came in last and move on. It's not some unfairness involved.
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
You wanna know what? Not one person made it to the semis undefeated. 5 people won 2 matches and one of them is out. Proof it's ****.
I think it is great Rafa not playing more!
These courts so bad for his knees.
Who knows, maybe this would make him be better prepared for AO. For once Rafa doesn’t have to heal his knees for a month before preparing.
 

40L0VE

Rookie
Nadal had three of these mugs in his group and couldnt make it...
Nadal owns all three as the h2h before this event started shows

Leading 4-1 h2h against Tsitsipas.
Leading 5-0 h2h against Zverev.
Leading 2-0 h2h against Medvedev.

Between them they had played Nadal 12 times managing only one win in total. If that's not a rigged draw to help Nadal I don't what is.
 
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Nadal owns all three as the h2h before this event started shows

Leading 4-1 h2h against Tsitsipas.
Leading 5-0 h2h against Zverev.
Leading 2-0 h2h against Medvedev.

Between them they had played Nadal 11 times managing only one win in total. If that's not a rigged draw to help Nadal I don't what is.
They need all the help they can get... Slow surfaces... Poly... ATP wants a slam race.

Sad but maestro comes out on top anyway.
 
I think it is great Rafa not playing more!
These courts so bad for his knees.
Who knows, maybe this would make him be better prepared for AO. For once Rafa doesn’t have to heal his knees for a month before preparing.
He is not winning AO anyway. I'm surprised you are still optimistic about his chances after all these years of suffering there. And for sure 1 or 2 more matches wouldn't change anything.
 

Wheelz

Rookie
You make a good point that it sucks for Nadal but the rules are the same for everyone. Nadal played bad the first game and was not that much better the 2nd game. Injured or not he was not the best out of this pool.

I see round robins in hockey often but not as much drama from fans, damn!
 

ghostofMecir

Hall of Fame
Medvedev phoned in his last match as expected allowing zverev to take the last spot in the semis. Medvedev didn't try at all.

Pretty lame when a person who is already out of the "tournament" plays in a match that influences the outcome of who makes the semis.
Did you start watching tennis a few years back?

Nadal failed and has failed every year he’s played this tournament because he cannot get an easy draw. That’s the bottom line
 

Sudacafan

G.O.A.T.
Medvedev phoned in his last match as expected allowing zverev to take the last spot in the semis. Medvedev didn't try at all.

Pretty lame when a person who is already out of the "tournament" plays in a match that influences the outcome of who makes the semis.
Grow up.
 

Firstservingman

Talk Tennis Guru
Every year it's the same crap
"Hurr tournament is invalid cos you can lose a match"

It's like you've never heard of other sports where that happens constantly
 
Every year it's the same crap
"Hurr tournament is invalid cos you can lose a match"

It's like you've never heard of other sports where that happens constantly
You know, the biggest tourney in the world called the World Cup... World Series... Stanley cup... the Masters... Many sports have champions losing in tourneys. When you have the top 8 in a tourney I think it is acceptable to have a loss.
 

Luis88

New User
Nobody cares about the title. It's just annoying that he wasted so much time and energy to beat Medvedev and Tsitsipas, and all that was for NOTHING. The scheduling was terrible as well. Zverev-Medvedev should have been the first match today, so then Nadal would know he shouldn't try against Tsitsipas.
Same logic can apply to Zverev. If Nadal played first and lost, Zverev didn't have to put up a show either. So, it's all fair and square. I hate Zverev and Mevedev but your fanboy mentality is blinding you.
 

augustobt

Legend
Did Federer win ALL of his matches?

Did Zverev?
No! Did Nadal straight setted anyone in the tournament? Because number of sets/games was the deciding criteria in a three-way draw. It was a rule stablished before the tournament, actually, way before Nadal even playing this. He can't complain about that.
 
Medvedev phoned in his last match as expected allowing zverev to take the last spot in the semis. Medvedev didn't try at all.

Pretty lame when a person who is already out of the "tournament" plays in a match that influences the outcome of who makes the semis.
Someone replied to me several days ago saying "but it rarely happens that a player wins two matches and misses the semis".

Yeah, well, it happened. And it happened to the no 1 player. Which clearly is great for the tournament, right?

3 of the 4 best players failed the RR stage. More proof that WTF is an overrated exo and its 1500 winner points needs to be halved.
 
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