Pros and Volkl

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I sometimes create hypothetical situations. One that comes to my mind is what modern day Top 50 Pro could benefit from a Volkl racket. If so, name the Pro, what Volkl model he would benefit from and why he would benefit.

Just a note, I dont work for Volkl and this is just a brainstorming exercise. No need to get uptight, some of you.:)
 
None. The Volkls I've tried in recent years seem less stable than the racquets generally considered to be their competitors in the same "weight class," so I doubt any would benefit. I had thought Sharapova could use something with a little better control, maybe even a Volkl, but she seems to have a better handle on her game the past week.
 
None. The Volkls I've tried in recent years seem less stable than the racquets generally considered to be their competitors in the same "weight class," so I doubt any would benefit. I had thought Sharapova could use something with a little better control, maybe even a Volkl, but she seems to have a better handle on her game the past week.

I respect your comment but it surprises me, taking into consideration what Ive read about Volkl rackets in these forums. I personally will play with a Volkl racket for the first time in June aprox so I cant speak for myself.

On the other hand, rackets like Babolat, which many people dislike, are nonetheless used by many Top 50 Pros. So, its all relative.
 
Federer could play with a new Organix 325. It has a crisper feel than older volkl models and the 98" head would benefit him now that he is an old man. It is 16x19 with a denser pattern in the middle just like his tour 90. In fact, this is the racket wilson should have made but was too stupid to do it. It would have to be customized to make it a bit more HL and increase the SW to around 350 for Fed. Basically, take Fed tour 90 and blow it up to 98 (I probably would have stopped at 95) and you have the new volkl organix 325 - crisp feel, thin beam, handles great, 16x19, great control and power, extremely high twistweight for their static weight, solid feel, and enough flex for feel and control. The only complaint on the new volkls is the SW is a bit light but you don't actually need as much SW due to the solid feel.

Tommy Rebredo could leave his dunlop and play a new custom Organix 295 as he likes 16x19 lighter rackets. Again, this racket would require customization to get to a SW sufficient to handle the pace.

Tsonga and Nadal could play customized Organix 8 as they like stiffer rackets that are great for baseline bashing. Wozniacki could also play this as she likes a "basher" racket. Same type as they currently play but better for the arm with more control.

Volkl makes a great racket. I have played Yonex RDX 500, BLX 6.1 95, and TF Tfight 320 for last 5 years and the new volkl organix line is a great line of rackets and beats them all. Crisper feel but still a bit of flex, outstanding control and still the most comfortable racket on the market.
 
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Federer could play with a new Organix 325. It has a crisper feel than older volkl models and the 98" head would benefit him now that he is an old man. It is 16x19 with a denser pattern in the middle just like his tour 90. In fact, this is the racket wilson should have made but was too stupid to do it. It would have to be customized to make it a bit more HL and increase the SW to around 350.

Tommy Rebredo could leave his dunlop and play a new custom Organix 295 as he likes 16x19 lighter rackets. Again, this racket would require customization to get to a SW sufficient to handle the pace.

Tsonga and Nadal could play customized Organix 8 as they like stiffer rackets that are great for baseline bashing. Wozniacki could also play this as she likes a "basher" racket. Same type as they currently play but better for the arm with more control.

Volkl makes a great racket. I have played Yonex RDX 500, BLX 6.1 95, and TF Tfight 320 for last 5 years and the new volkl organix line is a great line of rackets and beats them all. Crisper feel but still a bit of flex, outstanding control and still the most comfortable racket on the market.

Hey, great picks.:) These types of opinions are the ones that fit into this "hypothetical brainstorming" and who knows if any Pros or Pros friends are reading and try them out.:) Would be nice to see Top 50 Pros using more than just the traditional Wilsons, Babolats, etc.
 
I would say that Cibulkova could benefit from switching back to Volkl. Her level of play has dropped since Dunlop's new Biomimetic line was released, and the Organix 4 would suit her taste quite well, id est it is lightweight and has a larger headsize with an open string pattern.
 
I would say that Cibulkova could benefit from switching back to Volkl. Her level of play has dropped since Dunlop's new Biomimetic line was released, and the Organix 4 would suit her taste quite well, id est it is lightweight and has a larger headsize with an open string pattern.

Yeah I agree and a nice girl for Volkl to have to endorse their racket as Ivanovic and Woz do for Yonex.:)
 
I would say that Cibulkova could benefit from switching back to Volkl. Her level of play has dropped since Dunlop's new Biomimetic line was released, and the Organix 4 would suit her taste quite well, id est it is lightweight and has a larger headsize with an open string pattern.

I think the only thing that changed on Cibulkova's Dunlop racquets is the cosmetics........
 
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Yeah I agree and a nice girl for Volkl to have to endorse their racket as Ivanovic and Woz do for Yonex.:)

Li Na and Kim Clisters coukd play with the X8. Radwantza could pla with the X6.

Verdasco, Monaco and Roddick could play with customized X8s.

Nalbandian could play with a customized X325.

More to come...:)
 
If I remember right, McEnroe used a Volkl for a while. Can't think of any current pros who play like him, though. Stepanek, maybe.
 
If I remember right, McEnroe used a Volkl for a while. Can't think of any current pros who play like him, though. Stepanek, maybe.

Yeah McEnroe used the C10 Pro until he resigned with Dunlop back in 2003. McEnroe's game is unique and no one currently plays like him.
 
I would say that Cibulkova could benefit from switching back to Volkl. Her level of play has dropped since Dunlop's new Biomimetic line was released, and the Organix 4 would suit her taste quite well, id est it is lightweight and has a larger headsize with an open string pattern.

She used Volkl in the past,what racket?
 
Volkl is an excellent racquet. Yes McEnroe was an endorser for Volkl I just saw one of the ads with Mac and Volkl in an old issue of Tennis Week. Volkl is a great racquet I use the TOur 10 the one Korda won the Aussie Open with, feel like a sledgehammer. Obviously this tennis writer agrees about Volkl. Does anyone know if the Boris Becker racquets are the same as Volkl, just wiht a different paint job and logo?

http://www.tennis-prose.com/articles/i-love-volkl-racquets-so-much-heres-a-free-endorsement/
 
Volkl is an excellent racquet. Yes McEnroe was an endorser for Volkl I just saw one of the ads with Mac and Volkl in an old issue of Tennis Week. Volkl is a great racquet I use the TOur 10 the one Korda won the Aussie Open with, feel like a sledgehammer. Obviously this tennis writer agrees about Volkl. Does anyone know if the Boris Becker racquets are the same as Volkl, just wiht a different paint job and logo?

http://www.tennis-prose.com/articles/i-love-volkl-racquets-so-much-heres-a-free-endorsement/

Korda did not really use the C10 Pro. Korda was really using a old Voelkl TR-25 with the cosmetics of the C10 Pro.

Voelkl designs and markets the Boris Becker racquets.
 
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I saw a photo from Hingis and Federer's childhood. Both with a red Volkl.

Obviously those two could play well with anything, even a sledgehammer. Maaaayyybe even a Wilson Sledgehammer, hahaha.

But I can see them enjoying a c 10 comp or a c 10 pro. Or a pb 10 midplus.
Great touch and feel, more than adequate power and stability.

I also can see Federer with the Babolat Pure Storm Ltd, which has the soul of a Volkl and the look of a Wilson (the new one is red/white and black).
 
So maybe a stupid question, but I'll risk it:
Why doesn't Volkl make a greater effort to sign more pros? To be honest, before the internet, I had never seen a volkl racquet and have never hit with one until last year. I don't live on the moon either and I have been playing for 20 years. Wouldn't high profile exposure only help the company?
 
Good question. Great sticks. I remember when Volkl was topping Yonex and Dunlop in pro shop sales in the late 90s.

They used to pay Mac some money, and they had made inroads with the 35 and over champions tour. They had a few challenger level pros, too. Maybe they are now just spending their cash on engineering and manufacturing rather than marketing. I'm guessing they've had to streamline a lot just to survive the Babolat era.

No end in sight to the Babolat era, BTW, if any of you have been to a national junior tournament or an ITF...or a D1 college match.

That said, I'd totally use any 10 series Volkl (c10, pb 10, tour 10, organix 10, etc)....and I think a lot of world-class players all the way down to teaching pros and even 3.5s would benefit from a good Volkl '9' or '10' frame.
 
So maybe a stupid question, but I'll risk it:
Why doesn't Volkl make a greater effort to sign more pros? To be honest, before the internet, I had never seen a volkl racquet and have never hit with one until last year. I don't live on the moon either and I have been playing for 20 years. Wouldn't high profile exposure only help the company?

It's not a matter of "making the effort", it's simply a matter of spending the dollars. And Voelkl hasn't been willing (or maybe able) to cough up the necessary cash to compete in that arena. Exposure costs money.

Further, there have been a lot of financial questions about the company in recent years. A Google search might unearth some of it for you, and even a search of these boards could be enlightening.
 
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Further, there have been a lot of financial questions about the company in recent years. ....

Good point about financial stability and appropriating funds.

Prince, Head, Wilson, Yonex, too. It seems like everyone's been in trouble lately. I understand Dunlop is healthy and Head's making a nice comeback. Clearly Babolat is solid, and actually turning record profits.
 
So maybe a stupid question, but I'll risk it:
Why doesn't Volkl make a greater effort to sign more pros? To be honest, before the internet, I had never seen a volkl racquet and have never hit with one until last year. I don't live on the moon either and I have been playing for 20 years. Wouldn't high profile exposure only help the company?

I agree with your quote stupid question, type of question which I ask more than once a day.:)
 
I really think that Davydenko could benefit from the additional flexy plow-through that the DNX 10 Mid provides.
I've sent him several emails but perhaps something was lost in the babblefish translation.:confused:
 
Didnt Frank Dancevic use Volkl for a long time?

Yeah, long time ago he was using Völkl, like Jiri Novak, Felix Mantilla, Radek Stepanek, Milos Raonic, Daniel Cox, Pere Riba, Kevin Kim, Jamie Baker, Gerard Granollers, Daniel Monedero, Santiago Ventura and some others.. did.
 
Goerges could use the Organix 10 295 or the Organix 8. Hantuchova might benefit from the extra power of the Organix 6 as opposed to her EX03 Tour Team. Lopez might like the Organix 8 or the Organix 10 295. If Safina or Dementieva come back, either of them could use the Organix 10 325. :mrgreen:
 
Didn't Jiri Novak use a Volkl Tour 10 back around 2003 ish? I saw that epic 5 setter between Novak and Younes El Aynaoui on the grandstand court of the 2003 US Open and It looked like Novalk had a Tour 10 Midplus. I think Jimmy Arias used a C10 pro briefly back in the early 2000s as well. Taylor Dent was a Volkl guy for a while as well.
 
I think perhaps a bit of a perusal here might help.

http://www.volkl.com/ski/

Note pro podcasts, various links to world cup and world title wins on Volkl gear etc

Remember, Tennis Racquets are a bit of a sideline for these guys, Skis are what they have been doing since 1923...

I wonder how many people realise Fishcher just couldn't be bothered anymore and sold the tennis business to Pacific??

Skis are their bread and butter, too...
 
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Didn't Jiri Novak use a Volkl Tour 10 back around 2003 ish? I saw that epic 5 setter between Novak and Younes El Aynaoui on the grandstand court of the 2003 US Open and It looked like Novalk had a Tour 10 Midplus. I think Jimmy Arias used a C10 pro briefly back in the early 2000s as well. Taylor Dent was a Volkl guy for a while as well.

Yes he did but only the paint, Jiri always played the C10 pro as did Taylor...
 
This seems like a buyer's remorse thread. The OP has noted on these boards that he's purchased a Volkl, to be delivered in June, though has never used one (not a sign of keen judgement), and is now trying to figure out if he made a good decision by getting to the bottom of why pros aren't using them. My heart goes out to you. The truth is that the offerings from every manufacturer are now so broad in spec and scope that there are no longer traits that really define one brand from another. Every company makes racquets that are stiff or flexy, dead feeling or plenty of feel, every size and weight. Volkl made a fateful decision years ago to be a boutique brand and, for a time, avoid the internet. It paid the price. Being owned by an under-capitalized former player with tax problems helped no more than the NY Mets have been helped by having owners with a Madoff connection. I think the Volkl racquets I've used lately just seem less distinctive than they used to, particularly as the other manufacturers have caught up (or surpassed) in comfort features. As Volkl has tried to catch up in power by offering some stiffer frames, comfort is even less evident. (I tested a X-8 recently and thought it felt a little harsh).
 
I think perhaps a bit of a perusal here might help.

http://www.volkl.com/ski/

Note pro podcasts, various links to world cup and world title wins on Volkl gear etc

Remember, Tennis Racquets are a bit of a sideline for these guys, Skis are what they have been doing since 1923...

Skis are their bread and butter, too...

Volkl skis and tennis are two separate companies now. The original Volkl retained the ski manufacturing [as good as it gets there, Julia Mancuso being one of the prominent users], while the tennis side was bought by an American sports marketing company. Look for the Volkl tennis website. They apparently still employ a couple of German designers based in Germany.
 
Yeah, long time ago he was using Völkl, like Jiri Novak, Felix Mantilla, Radek Stepanek, Milos Raonic, Daniel Cox, Pere Riba, Kevin Kim, Jamie Baker, Gerard Granollers, Daniel Monedero, Santiago Ventura and some others.. did.

Don't forget Golovin! Although, to be melodramatic, I believe she was forgotten a long time ago :cry:
 
This seems like a buyer's remorse thread. The OP has noted on these boards that he's purchased a Volkl, to be delivered in June, though has never used one (not a sign of keen judgement), and is now trying to figure out if he made a good decision by getting to the bottom of why pros aren't using them. My heart goes out to you. The truth is that the offerings from every manufacturer are now so broad in spec and scope that there are no longer traits that really define one brand from another. Every company makes racquets that are stiff or flexy, dead feeling or plenty of feel, every size and weight. Volkl made a fateful decision years ago to be a boutique brand and, for a time, avoid the internet. It paid the price. Being owned by an under-capitalized former player with tax problems helped no more than the NY Mets have been helped by having owners with a Madoff connection. I think the Volkl racquets I've used lately just seem less distinctive than they used to, particularly as the other manufacturers have caught up (or surpassed) in comfort features. As Volkl has tried to catch up in power by offering some stiffer frames, comfort is even less evident. (I tested a X-8 recently and thought it felt a little harsh).

I agree, brand doesn't matter much these days. All of them do, indeed, make racquets of similar specs and the brands themselves lose their 'personalities.' The highest paying sponsor gets the most pros.
 
This seems like a buyer's remorse thread. The OP has noted on these boards that he's purchased a Volkl, to be delivered in June, though has never used one (not a sign of keen judgement), and is now trying to figure out if he made a good decision by getting to the bottom of why pros aren't using them. My heart goes out to you. The truth is that the offerings from every manufacturer are now so broad in spec and scope that there are no longer traits that really define one brand from another. Every company makes racquets that are stiff or flexy, dead feeling or plenty of feel, every size and weight. Volkl made a fateful decision years ago to be a boutique brand and, for a time, avoid the internet. It paid the price. Being owned by an under-capitalized former player with tax problems helped no more than the NY Mets have been helped by having owners with a Madoff connection. I think the Volkl racquets I've used lately just seem less distinctive than they used to, particularly as the other manufacturers have caught up (or surpassed) in comfort features. As Volkl has tried to catch up in power by offering some stiffer frames, comfort is even less evident. (I tested a X-8 recently and thought it felt a little harsh).

Volkl Organix 8; 4 and 1/4 grip size.
Strings:Weiss Cannon B5E mains at 48 pds and VS gut 16 as crosses at 52 pounds.
Style of play: Baseliner with topspin strokes.

Played this morning with the X8 but only for an hour.

Serve: Good for flat serves, very precise and you can place the ball where you want. Had aproximately 70% of first serves in, two aces and about 6-7 winners. Slice and kick serves I cant comment to much yet but seems like I wont have a problem. The additional weight and swingweight, if compared with the Yonex VCORE 100, helps me serve better. Much better serving racket than the Babolat APD GT. I mention these two rackets as they were the last ones Ive used.
9/10

Forehand: I was able to generate good pace with my forehand and could either brush the ball to generate topspin or drive the ball a little bit more to flatten the shot. I was able to place the ball pretty well; good control. I was able to hit the ball in nice anles either crosscourt or down the line. Pretty impressive considering Im unfamiliar with this racket.
9/10

Backhand slice: My backhand slice was so so. This racket is pretty powerful, so if your technique fails the ball will fly. So, maybe my technique was not consistent today as some slices were good but others sailed long. But, good potential to use slice backhands as an offensive weapon.
8/10

Topspin backhand- I was able to generate good spin with the topspin backhand. The rectangular grip shape helps me to properly transition from semiwestern grip to eastern grip. Good pace in the topspin shots.
9/10

Net play- Due to time constraints ( I played early in the morning before going to work) I did not play net today.

Future considerations: Wonder if using VS gut as crosses is too powerful for this racket. Could increase tension a bit maybe. I could also try full copoly like Weiss Cannon Black5Edge or similar strings in the future. But again, to early to tell as I have used the racket only one time.

Final note- Very good initial impression. The racket suits my game well as I like to hit with topspin and the 100 sq. head and the 16 x 18 string pattern is great in this regard. Also, liked the muted feel of the racket and its "controlled liveliness."

As a curiousity, at the beginning I felt some vibration or not so dampened feel. I took off the Volkl dampener and put on a Yonex dampener and the problem was solved. Nonetheless, for some reason I dont know if Ill keep the Yonex dampener in a Volkl frame; its like using Nike shoes with Adidas clothing apparel. May try I a generic dampener like a Wilson Yin Yan or Gamma No Shock, this last one getting good reviews. If these or others dont work, the Yonex dampener will do.

May post a new review in two weeks after I adjust properly to the X8.

No remorse till now...:):)
 
Style of play: Baseliner with topspin strokes.
As a curiousity, at the beginning I felt some vibration or not so dampened feel. I took off the Volkl dampener and put on a Yonex dampener and the problem was solved. Nonetheless, for some reason I dont know if Ill keep the Yonex dampener in a Volkl frame; its like using Nike shoes with Adidas clothing apparel. May try I a generic dampener like a Wilson Yin Yan or Gamma No Shock, this last one getting good reviews. If these or others dont work, the Yonex dampener will do.

May post a new review in two weeks after I adjust properly to the X8.

No remorse till now...:):)

Give rubber band a chance! :) Best dampener ever. Doesn't fly away, low profile, cheap, adjustable tension, adjustable width, removes almost all vibrations, brand neutral, cheap.
 
Give rubber band a chance! :) Best dampener ever. Doesn't fly away, low profile, cheap, adjustable tension, adjustable width, removes almost all vibrations, brand neutral, cheap.

May sound foolish but I wouldnt use the rubber band just because I dont like how it looks.:) In the case of Yonex dampeners, they are good and they dont fly away. Gamma I dont know.
 
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