Pros grip size?

I like L3 with an overgrip. I also wrap the buttcap area 2x so that I can hold my racquet with a looser grip.

I tried L2 but it was too small on the backhand side.

I think 2hand backhands can use smaller grips and more pros play with 2hands now.

The one-size-fits-all doesn't make sense to me as everyone has different sized hands.

As a rough reference for hand size, I can palm a basketball. Can do it off the dribble with right hand but not easily.
 
AAATSportingGoods said:
Can you stay on track with your argument? You said small grip is more spin, which is not true
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Wrong. Smaller grips are better for spin which is why most of the tour has trended toward smaller ones over the years.

I have larger hands and technically could be using much larger than 5/8 but I use a 1/4 with one overgrip. Smaller grips allow more range of motion and wrist snap which is essential for spin.
 
Shaolin said:
Wrong. Smaller grips are better for spin which is why most of the tour has trended toward smaller ones over the years.

I have larger hands and technically could be using much larger than 5/8 but I use a 1/4 with one overgrip. Smaller grips allow more range of motion and wrist snap which is essential for spin.
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What was wrong about my comment about you getting distracted? Can you please stay on track?

Going back to original point, no. Can you please think? Think about why they think that and how that works and whether that makes any sense? Just like the bro science in the bodybuilding community, what is the evidence to back up their claims that you take for absolute fact? Can you think?

For example, biomechanically, why does a small grip allow that? Rafa has said it helps him move the wrist/hand through the ball….but how? Is this true? It’s true to the extent that a massive grip will physically get in the way of you using your hand/wrist but biomechanically it’s only true to a certain point (as a sports medicine physician multiple publications involving biomechanics) and a 1 size larger grip would not impact Rafa wrist range of motion guaranteed. Federer could crank up the RPMs, with natural gut and a grip 3, without moving his hand/wrist through the ball like Rafa claims, so could it be preference rather than cause and effect? Can you think?
 
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AAATSportingGoods said:
What was wrong about my comment about you getting distracted? Can you please stay on track?

Going back to original point, no. Can you please think? Think about why they think that and how that works and whether that makes any sense? Just like the bro science in the bodybuilding community, what is the evidence to back up their claims that you take for absolute fact? Can you think?
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You should be the one thinking.

I’ve provided good reasons why the pros are using smaller grips.

You on the other hand think that because YOU, a random rec player, use a 1/2 and “spin is your game” (lol) :rolleyes::rolleyes: that the tour is somehow wrong.

Look at the list I provided, hardly any grip size 5s and these are grown men. Lots of 3s and even 2s. A lot of companies don’t even make size 5s anymore.

But yeah don’t let the facts get in the way of your silly opinion.
 
Smaller grips are definitely better for generating spin. Scientifically proven without a doubt. Those who say otherwise are just being defiant for some strange reason. Maybe they're unhappy people who like to argue. Who knows
 
Shaolin said:
You should be the one thinking.

I’ve provided good reasons why the pros are using smaller grips.

You on the other hand think that because YOU, a random rec player, use a 1/2 and “spin is your game” (lol) :rolleyes::rolleyes: that the tour is somehow wrong.

Look at the list I provided, hardly any grip size 5s and these are grown men. Lots of 3s and even 2s. A lot of companies don’t even make size 5s anymore.

But yeah don’t let the facts get in the way of your silly opinion.
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No you haven’t. You just said pros use small grip so spin….tell me how biomechanically a smaller grip, by 1/8 of an inch, helps the mechanics that produce top spin? Explain the mechanism. Let’s see you think.
 
AAATSportingGoods said:
No you haven’t. You just said pros use small grip so spin….tell me how biomechanically a smaller grip, by 1/8 of an inch, helps the mechanics that produce top spin? Explain the mechanism. Let’s see you think.
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I already said that smaller grips make is easier to create wrist snap, essential for pronating and supinating etc. More range of motion. You can hold a smaller grip looser.

You in the other hand provide nothing. Like I said you think because you use a 1/2 that it means the rest of the tour is wrong. You’re an arrogant and delusional person.
 
Shaolin said:
I already said that smaller grips make is easier to create wrist snap, essential for pronating and supinating etc. More range of motion. You can hold a smaller grip looser.

You in the other hand provide nothing. Like I said you think because you use a 1/2 that it means the rest of the tour is wrong. You’re an arrogant and delusional person.
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lol this is what I’m talking about.::why does smaller grip allow wrist snap and holding grips looser? Is that bc there’s less tension on the FDP/FDS muscles? Why? Also, the second part has been proven incorrect scientifically. For treatment of lateral epicondylitis, ie tennis elbow, one of the recommendations by the national board is going UP a grip size to help LOOSEN the grip.

See this is all just the tennis version of bro science in the bodybuilding community. Please think.
 
Purestriker said:
Do you have data to substantiate this? I tried it once, didn't see any material difference either than it was harder to get the right feel of the grip when transitioning from 2 hander to western FH.
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Rafa uses a small grip, useful for ripping the racquet straight up with that buggy whip.
 
AAATSportingGoods said:
This isn’t science. This is equivalent to referencing Fox News or CNN
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“Players like the thin grips because they can come over the ball much more and whip it,” says Roman Prokes, owner of **** Tennis in New York City and stringer to many pro players."

Direct quote from a guy who has forgotten more about tennis than you will ever know to begin with.
 
Shaolin said:
“Players like the thin grips because they can come over the ball much more and whip it,” says Roman Prokes, owner of **** Tennis in New York City and stringer to many pro players."

Direct quote from a guy who has forgotten more about tennis than you will ever know to begin with.
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Critical thinking please…

Here is a website that a lot of sports medicine docs use as a reference for treating patients. Navigate down to treatment and you see we recommend increasing grip size, this is due to helping patients loosen up the grip….

Lateral Epicondylitis (Tennis Elbow) - Shoulder & Elbow - Orthobullets

image at end of sentence
www.orthobullets.com www.orthobullets.com

The fact that you essentially referenced CNN thinking it’s science is absolutely hilarious OMG
 
AAATSportingGoods said:
Critical thinking please…

Here is a website that a lot of sports medicine docs use as a reference for treating patients. Navigate down to treatment and you see we recommend increasing grip size, this is due to helping patients loosen up the grip….

Lateral Epicondylitis (Tennis Elbow) - Shoulder & Elbow - Orthobullets

image at end of sentence
www.orthobullets.com www.orthobullets.com

The fact that you essentially referenced CNN thinking it’s science is absolutely hilarious OMG
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Your random doctors option does not supersede the opinion of hundreds of professionals that actually play tennis on tour.
 
Shaolin said:
Your random doctors option does not supersede the opinion of hundreds of professionals that actually play tennis on tour.
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Again, please stay on track. When did I ever say a doctor’s opinion supersedes a coach or pro? Sometimes it does, particularly when it comes to injuries, but most of the time it doesn’t. I believe this area is prime for new scientific research, which I am actively involved in as I’m leading 3 studies at the moment. That being said, all I said since the beginning was critically think and ask ‘why’ rather than taking a persons word for absolute truth. What is the evidence? Is there evidence? You come here with anecdotal evidence and using it as absolute truth backed scientific evidence and then provide a joke article. That’s lack of critical thinking.
 
AAATSportingGoods said:
Again, please stay on track. When did I ever say a doctor’s opinion supersedes a coach or pro? Sometimes it does, particularly when it comes to injuries, but most of the time it doesn’t. I believe this area is prime for new scientific research, which I am actively involved in as I’m leading 3 studies at the moment. That being said, all I said since the beginning was critically think and ask ‘why’ rather than taking a persons word for absolute truth. What is the evidence? Is there evidence? You come here with anecdotal evidence and using it as absolute truth backed scientific evidence and then provide a joke article. That’s lack of critical thinking.
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You saying it’s a “joke article” and being ignorant of what is going on in modern tennis doesn’t make it such.

Try out critical thinking for yourself someday.
 
AAATSportingGoods said:
Yea that doesn’t mean beginner
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To most ppl it does--it's a swimming analogy so someone "just getting their feet wet" is a beginner.

I think we can both agree that a 3.5 can be someone who played for decades. I've been called a 3.5 on here plenty of times and who am I to say they're wrong?
 
Rosstour said:
To most ppl it does--it's a swimming analogy so someone "just getting their feet wet" is a beginner.

I think we can both agree that a 3.5 can be someone who played for decades. I've been called a 3.5 on here plenty of times and who am I to say they're wrong?
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Nah 3.5 for decades means something is wrong tbh
 
AAATSportingGoods said:
Nah 3.5 for decades means something is wrong tbh
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I know you're 6.0+ but getting to 4.0 isn't "easy" for a lot of people. Plus physical decline is a thing. I get that being a D1 men's coach is awesome but you're not on a D1 forum, there are lots of trash players here (4.5 and below). Actually most of us are trash compared to you
 
Rosstour said:
I know you're 6.0+ but getting to 4.0 isn't "easy" for a lot of people. Plus physical decline is a thing. I get that being a D1 men's coach is awesome but you're not on a D1 forum, there are lots of trash players here (4.5 and below). Actually most of us are trash compared to you
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Are you taking lessons at all? Or doing clinics? You’re right, physical decline is definitely a thing. Im definitely not that level anymore due to physical decline. But that’s what I mean, if you’re a 3.5 after decades of playing and no health issues or decline, something is definitely wrong. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen YouTuber series of completely inexperienced people become 4.0s or something in a year
 
AAATSportingGoods said:
Are you taking lessons at all? Or doing clinics? You’re right, physical decline is definitely a thing. Im definitely not that level anymore due to physical decline. But that’s what I mean, if you’re a 3.5 after decades of playing and no health issues or decline, something is definitely wrong. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen YouTuber series of completely inexperienced people become 4.0s or something in a year
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Don't worry about me bud, I'm trash and will always be

Just saying 3.5s aren't always getting their feet wet. Sometimes they've been in the game a long time.
 
Rosstour said:
Don't worry about me bud, I'm trash and will always be

Just saying 3.5s aren't always getting their feet wet. Sometimes they've been in the game a long time.
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Yea if you’re still a 3.5, you’re not playing enough and still getting your feet well and getting used to competing, which is how NTRP/UTR ratings are based off of.
 
AAATSportingGoods said:
Yea if you’re still a 3.5, you’re not playing enough and still getting your feet well and getting used to competing, which is how NTRP/UTR ratings are based off of.
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Stop saying "you" bro I'm not talking about me

My Dad is a 3.0, he's been playing for 60 years. Something must be wrong.

You are using D1 college as the benchmark, yeah absolutely we are all mugs with no talent or skill by that benchmark. We fully recognize your superiority
 
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