Thanks for posting the great collection of champions that have used one of the greatest frames of all time.
There is a good number of upcoming young guys using it as well.Cann't believe Wilson has killed this model that has so much success across wide variety of players.They probably should have released this model in 95 as well as 100 if they want to cater to modern era where everyone is looking for a bigger head size.
It's a great list of players. Good work of you! Thank you for this thread. This racquet is one of my favourites.The definitive list (thanks for the help @Arti & @vsbabolat ):
Mats Wilander: 16x18
Juan Martin Del Potro: 18x20 - 2009 US Open Singles
Daniel Nestor: 16x18
2002 Aussie Open
07/10/11/12 French Open
2008/2009 Wimbledon
2004 US Open
Mahesh Bhupathi: 16x18 - 99/01 French Open - 1999 Wimbledon - 2002 Us Open
Jonas Bjorkman: 16x18
98/99/01 Aussie Open Doubles
05/06 French Open Doubles
02/03/04 Wimbledon Doubles
2003 US Open Doubles
Max Mirnyi: 16x18 - 05/06/11/12 French Open Doubles - 00/02 US Open Doubles
Gaston Gaudio: 18x20 - 2005 French Open Singles
Simon Aspelin: 16x18 - 2007 US Open
Bruno Soares: 16x18 - 2016 Australian Open
Richard Krajicek: ?
Robert Lindstedt: 16x18 - 2014 US Open Doubles
Vasek Pospisil: 18x20 - 2014 Wimbledon Doubles
Horia Tecau: 18x20 - 2015 Wimbledon Doubles
Jarkko Nieminen: 16x18
Todd Martin: 16x18 (Post-retirement)
Brad Gilbert: 16x18 (Post-retirement)
Tim Henmen: (NO PWS)
Greg Rusedski: (NO PWS)
Mardy Fish: 18x20
Dominic Thiem: 18x20
Aaron KrickStein: 16x18
Jared Palmer: 16x18
Philip Kohlschriber: 16x18
Leonardo Mayer: 18x20
Roberto Bautista Agut: 18x20
Stephane Robert: 18x20 (Only hyper pro staff through 2010)
Steve Darcis: 18x20
Thomaz Bellucci: 18x20
Kyle Edmund: 18x20
Gabashvili: 18x20
Lukas Rosol: 18x20
Dusan Lajovic: 18x20
Denis Shapovalov: 18x20
Dan Evans: 18x20
Robert Kendrick: 18x20
Chase Buchanan: 18x20
Igor Sijsling: 18x20
Jesse Levine: 18x20
VLOGMAN 18x16 (@TW Staff)
Singles majors won: 2
Doubles majors won: 18
Maybe Wilson will see our collective dedication to the 6.1 and bless us with another offering.
Or at least the 6.1 Classic 25th Anniversary at a reasonable price.
Damn...so the PSC 6.1 is pretty much Wilson's equivalent of Head's PT57 in terms of its 'undercover' usage?
The PSC 6.1 is like the leonidas of stock racquets. I mean, the new 97 is basically that racquet just a little bit different in weight distribution. A few tweaks on the retail rf97a in design to make the weight more like the 6.1 and I bet it would be a lot more popular.Damn...so the PSC 6.1 is pretty much Wilson's equivalent of Head's PT57 in terms of its 'undercover' usage?
The PSC 6.1 is like the leonidas of stock racquets. I mean, the new 97 is basically that racquet just a little bit different in weight distribution. A few tweaks on the retail rf97a in design to make the weight more like the 6.1 and I bet it would be a lot more popular.
I've never met someone who used this 6.1 stick who didn't crush it from the baseline.
They should bring this stick back, it's seriously one of the best racquets I've ever tried, and probably ever available (at least out of the box).
Invest in a cup, maybe a bullet proof vest.I wish you hadn't said all that.....wife is going to kill me....
Invest in a cup, maybe a bullet proof vest.
No but you could probably get pretty close with some modification on another stick. The string pattern in the 97 to me doesn't feel too different in the sweet spot. I hit with a 6.1 again not too long ago, and it was sweet. Had a hybrid in it, and it reminded me a lot of what I like about the 97 with a hybrid in it. The string pattern just works really well for me.
Invest in a cup, maybe a bullet proof vest.
No but you could probably get pretty close with some modification on another stick. The string pattern in the 97 to me doesn't feel too different in the sweet spot. I hit with a 6.1 again not too long ago, and it was sweet. Had a hybrid in it, and it reminded me a lot of what I like about the 97 with a hybrid in it. The string pattern just works really well for me.
They should bring this stick back, it's seriously one of the best racquets I've ever tried, and probably ever available (at least out of the box).
I deleted the images to make my reply a bit smaller but yeah those yonex sticks are almost identical in head size and main distribution. My vcore tour 97's have almost the exact same main spacing. The only difference being the extra cross and tighter cross spacing. I do play more naturally with the 16x19 though so that's why I think I'm going to switch.Agreed, the Wilson 97, or possibly a Yonex G, is about as close as you'll get.
The following is a bit pedantic, but I find minutia interesting:
I use 16x19! I like the 16x18 too. They're both pretty similarDo you use 16x18 or 18x20?
I use 16x19! I like the 16x18 too. They're both pretty similar[/QUOTE
Is it custom made? I only know two string patterns o
Agreed, the Wilson 97, or possibly a Yonex G, is about as close as you'll get.
The following is a bit pedantic, but I find minutia interesting:
Here are several Wilson frames ordered as they were released. The last two are out of order, I put the 6.1 Classic and 6.0 Original to put the Classic beside the RF97. I threw in Hyper Maureen G. Connolly just for fun.
- The 90 (3) updated the 85 (2), adding one more cross and evening out density changes.
- The 97 (4) very much follows the proportional spacing of the 90.
- The 97 (4) compared to the 6.1 Classic (5) is both more open in the center 10x12 and more closed outside those.
- The 6.1 Classic (5) compared to the 6.0 original (6) kept a very similar spacing across the center 10x12, outside those the Classic opened up to fill the frame.
The 16x18 vs 18x20 Classic are somewhat similar density in the center, more that I would expect. The 5 first and last crosses, are where most the variation lies.
x100000 Been using the PSC 6.1 since the mid-90s. Though lately I've been pulling out the OG Prestige Pro more often, there is always a 6.1 nearby and I usually end up going back to it.
Oh no I'm just using a "97" well something based off the wilson ps 97, not the actual 6.1
I deleted the images to make my reply a bit smaller but yeah those yonex sticks are almost identical in head size and main distribution. My vcore tour 97's have almost the exact same main spacing. The only difference being the extra cross and tighter cross spacing. I do play more naturally with the 16x19 though so that's why I think I'm going to switch.
This is one of the most epic posts I've ever seen on TT. Well done, @moon shot these comparison photos are stunning. Some of the similarities/dissimilarities within the string patterns are really indicative of the nature of each stringbed. The 97 being more control-oriented on the outsides of the frame, while the PS85/90 are very dense in the middle of the stringbed allowing for more a control-oriented response there as wel. Really appreciate you taking the time to lay out all of these frames and crop them all together like that. For a Wilson-fanatic like myself, this is bliss. I loved seeing the 85/90 next to each other, so identical, but yet dissimilar. Keep up the good work, mate
So, you play RF 97?
Cool thats awesome as an album. I just stick the frames on top of each other lmao. Using a ruler is way more consistantYeah, the base64 encoding in quotes get really annoying when you need to edit something. I'll cook up another grouping of 95 and 97.
I do have a tendency to dive deep. I've been comparing string patterns in photos like this for a bit, yesterday I realized I happened to have that whole line together. - here is an album of such stuff - http://imgur.com/a/kjSS3
Cool thats awesome as an album. I just stick the frames on top of each other lmao. Using a ruler is way more consistant
Plus, during their time with Wilson, they used the Hyper Pro Staff 5.0 Stretch with the 18X19 pattern.Here's a really cool pic the Bryans posted on Twitter:
Both are using 6.1 Classic Stretch (note the red "shoulders") frames. If stock, they're 28" and 18x20. The Bryan Bros have been known to experiment with different specs and lengths in frames. Pretty need to see they were using extended frames even back in college.
I met them at Paris Indoor BNP Parbas, they're the most nice persons among pros i've ever metHere's a reallyperson pic the Bryans posted on Twitter:
Both are using 6.1 Classic Stretch (note the red "shoulders") frames. If stock, they're 28" and 18x20. The Bryan Bros have been known to experiment with different specs and lengths in frames. Pretty need to see they were using extended frames even back in college.
@gino - great thread. Thanks for starting it off.
I recently bought 3 hyper carbons, so I'm not technically a part of this but it makes great reading. Keen to pick up a few 6.1's when the opportunity arises for sure.
Here's a really cool pic the Bryans posted on Twitter:
Both are using 6.1 Classic Stretch (note the red "shoulders") frames. If stock, they're 28" and 18x20. The Bryan Bros have been known to experiment with different specs and lengths in frames. Pretty need to see they were using extended frames even back in college.
Phenomenal thread, about time the 6.1 comes out from under the pj radar
I like this thread. I never knew about this racquet. I only heard about the H19 and H22, but this one seems like the big daddy
yes it is, going by the number of pros using it also one should include Roger,Pete and other champions as well even though they have used 85-90 inch instead of a 95.
Not sure why Wilson cann't release the Wilson classic 6.1.95 18*20 in US when they can do it in Europe.
When the OP says Wilson 6.1 (I'm guessing) that is shorthand for the 6.1 Classic 95 which was originally in 16x18, 18x20, and stretch versions - and all the later versions which descended from and used the same mold. Not necessarily every frame that says Six.One on it.
Last I heard TW still expects to sell the anniversary in the states. - http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/inde...25th-anniversary-edition.546826/#post-9824124
When the OP says Wilson 6.1 (I'm guessing) that is shorthand for the 6.1 Classic 95 which was originally in 16x18, 18x20, and stretch versions - and all the later versions which descended from and used the same mold. Not necessarily every frame that says Six.One on it.
Last I heard TW still expects to sell the anniversary in the states. - http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/inde...25th-anniversary-edition.546826/#post-9824124
Yes, 6.1 Classic and its descendants. The 6.0 85, 6.0 95, and Tour 90 are all great frames, but not part of the 6.1 family.
Before anyone jumps on my case, I know everything descended from the 6.0 85 and that makes them "family" but this thread's purpose is to celebrate and educate newer tennis fans about the 6.1 line.
One bit that bears mentioning is that the 6.1 Classic did veer from its 95 headsize when Wilson created the 6.1 Classic Oversize. It had a 110" head.
There was also a Hyper ProStaff 6.1 Stretch Oversize. 27.5" in length and 106" headsize. This one even had a crossbar a la the POG.
When the OP says Wilson 6.1 (I'm guessing) that is shorthand for the 6.1 Classic 95 which was originally in 16x18, 18x20, and stretch versions - and all the later versions which descended from and used the same mold. Not necessarily every frame that says Six.One on it.
Last I heard TW still expects to sell the anniversary in the states. - http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/inde...25th-anniversary-edition.546826/#post-9824124