Pro's Pro Strings!?

#1
Hi guys...
I'm new at this forum and tried to search the forum about this thread but was no lucky...too many threads to go for but no real answer.
So to go back to the topic...
PRO'S PRO STRINGS...
Did anyone use it?If was or is...please tell my about the strings...quality,playability etc.
THANK YOU!!!
P.S.I'm not thinking about certain string (black out,black warrior strings are my interest) but I want to know about the strings overall. :)
 
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#2
I'm using Pro's pro Fire Cable, which is a yellow multifilament. It is soft yet easily broken. The yellow color around the sweet spot faded easily. It losts tension quickly after several games too. This string is too much power for me, i don't like it very much.
 
#3
I have tried many of the Pro´s pro strings. Mostly poly´s but also some synthetic and i have also strung for many friends.

I find most Pros pro strings to be to soft and they tend to break to quick. The only string i string for my friends is the aramid power or aramid spin. Looks like a replica of Prince synt gut w. duraflex. A decent string.

From the polys, Pros Pro´s superior string is the White version of Cyber Power. A really really good string that many really good players use.

The blackout is also very similar to Tecnifibre black-code. I cant tell the difference between those 2 strings and i wouldnt be surprised if they are made side by side in same facory.
 
#4
Jura-SB - do you have an email address for me to contact you regarding strings?

These guys are talking absolute CRAP. They have no idea what they are talking about. Yeah, so Blackcode is similar to Pro's Pro and made in same factory is it? Horsesh*t, pal - don't spout crap when you don't know what you're talking about.

The fact is that Pro's Pro make the cheapest, WORST QUALITY, garbage can excuses for tennis strings, and the only reason anyone uses them is because they are dirt cheap.

However, what many folk don't realise is that for a little more cash you can get MUCH higher quality strings, and there is no need to waste your life playing with Pro's Pro garbage at all.

Not one person I met ever has said anything good about these strings.
 
#5
I tend to agree with RD. People tend to buy Pro's Pro because the strings are cheap - the price of a reel is phenomally inexpensive - and not because they are anything close to being the best strings out there. They tend to be bought by stringers in volume, along with the likes of Toalsen etc.

The only thing in common that Blackout has with BlackCode is that they are both....black. Tecnifibre manufacture their strings themselves within their own factory operations. They don't buy the strings and rebrand them. In fact, there's a couple of old TW videos where Chris visited the Tecnifibre factory to see how the strings were made and durability tested etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70xZi-ZKyOc
 
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kalic

Professional
#6
Pro's Pro is cheap because you don't pay for advertising, you only pay for strings. I used polys, "nano cyber power" and "intense heat", and overall quality is about the same as brand name polys.
Anyway I am 100% sure that it's better to play with prospro polys and restrung your racquet 3x often, than playing expensive polys, and restrung them every 3 months. Price is about the same...
 
#7
I've bought 10 reels of Intense Heat to string people's rackets at my club. I've left with one now and once it is finished I will not be buying it any more.

IMO, Intense Heat from Pro's Pro is not a quality string. For a little bit more you can get so much better.
 

Xenakis

Hall of Fame
#9
Tried quite a few of their strings now and they're generally rubbish. However Black Out is decent and very good value. I've tried lots of polys and Black Out stands up well against them.

It's not that much like Blackcode, that's much softer which is nice for a bit but it dies quickly imo (about 12 hours), Black Out lasts longer before losing its elasticity. I string it at 20kg in a BLX95 6.1 18x20, for comparison I used to have Blackcode at 22kg. I'd say it's a medium stiff poly, not really like a newer 'co-poly'.

Black Out seems to get decent reviews on stringforum too, the last time I looked anyway.

I'd like to try Black Force too as that's supposed to be the same but without the string texture. Not going to fork out for a reel just to find out though (can't buy it in sets from my supplier).
 
#10
Oh i almost forgot...
Pro's Pro Concept 1.28mm is one of the best polys i've ever tried in my old 16x19 Extreme Pros.
Comet Power is a great multi for recriational players.
 
#11
Jura-SB - do you have an email address for me to contact you regarding strings?

These guys are talking absolute CRAP. They have no idea what they are talking about. Yeah, so Blackcode is similar to Pro's Pro and made in same factory is it? Horsesh*t, pal - don't spout crap when you don't know what you're talking about.

The fact is that Pro's Pro make the cheapest, WORST QUALITY, garbage can excuses for tennis strings, and the only reason anyone uses them is because they are dirt cheap.

However, what many folk don't realise is that for a little more cash you can get MUCH higher quality strings, and there is no need to waste your life playing with Pro's Pro garbage at all.

Not one person I met ever has said anything good about these strings.
Hi mr Tecnifibre rep!

Please see those posts before you start talking BS!

This is from the german saitenforum;

Chemischer Vergleich der Tecnifibre Black Code mit der Pro's Pro Blackout
Veröffentlicht: 21.10.2009 um 18:19 von Spin_Fan
Stichworte
Hallo an alle

Hier die sehnlich erwarteten Ergebnisse der Untersuchungen an den beiden Saiten.

Hier die Black Code und die Blackout

Black Code:




Blackout:



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Hier habe ich die Saiten jetzt vermessen. Die Durchmesser sind identisch. Die Unterschiedlichen Zahlen traten aufgrund von Ungenauigkeiten beim Einbetten auf, da die Saite nicht 100%-ig vertikal eingebettet wurde.

Black Code:




Blackout:




Fazit der Mikroskopie:
Die Saiten sind farblich und von den Abmessungen her identisch. Auch in der Struktur sind keine Unterschiede festzustellen.

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Infrarotspektrokopie:
Mit der Methode der Infrarotspektroskopie und deren Möglichkeiten konnte festgestellt werden, dass es sich um den gleichen Polyester handelt.

Fazit:

Chemische und optisch gesehen sind die beiden Saiten sich extrem ähnlich.
Ob die Spieleigenschaften, die Spannungsstabilität und die Reißfestigkeit übereinstimmen, muss man mit anderen Tests auch noch ermitteln, um sicher sagen zu können, dass es sich um die gleiche Saite handelt. Ich denke dabei an eine Reißtest im Labor, bei dem die aufgewendete Kraft im Augenblick des Reißens ermittelt werden kann.

Auch wenn nicht zu 100% bewiesen ist, dass die Blackout die selbe Saite ist, so ist sie auf jedenfall eine sehr gute Kopie.

Ich empfehle jedem, der überlegt, ob er sich die Saite holen soll, 2 Schläger mit dem gleichen Setup mit den beiden Saiten zu bespannen und sie dann im Praxistest noch einmal zu vergleichen.

Bei Fragen kann man mir gerne eine PM schreiben bzw. sie im Diskussionsthread stellen.
 
#12
I have played with the Hexaspin, Cyber Power and the Intense Heat. The Hexa it's very similar to the hurricane tour, cyber power to the luxilon alu power
No one noticed that when color change in the same string, the string is more stiff or softer?
 
#13
Can anyone who is using or has used Pro's Pro Cyber Power say how it compares to other Luxilon ALU imitators like Topspin Cyberflash or Tourna Big Hitter Silver? Many people will say all kinds of strings are "like" Luxilon ALU, but in reality, the only thing those string have in common are that they're also a poly.
 
#14
Can anyone who is using or has used Pro's Pro Cyber Power say how it compares to other Luxilon ALU imitators like Topspin Cyberflash or Tourna Big Hitter Silver? Many people will say all kinds of strings are "like" Luxilon ALU, but in reality, the only thing those string have in common are that they're also a poly.
Cyber Power, is softer than ALU, less power, spin potencial is almost the same since strings don't move, tension stability is far better.

ALU is a unique string, there aren't any other strings like ALU. Luxilon is the only maker of it, other brands will have other strings, some better some worst, it all depends on you!
 
#15
Cyber Power, is softer than ALU, less power, spin potencial is almost the same since strings don't move, tension stability is far better.

ALU is a unique string, there aren't any other strings like ALU. Luxilon is the only maker of it, other brands will have other strings, some better some worst, it all depends on you!
ART, have you ever used Topsin Cyberflash or Tourna Big Hitter Silver? Yeah, I figure Luxilon ALU is almost too unique for anyone to clone...just wondering how other ALU imitators compare. It seems that Pro's Pro Cyber power is yet another string that is said to "play like" Luxilon ALU. Since the Topspin Cyberflash and Tourna Big Hittler have also been said to do a good job of imitating Lux ALU, I was wondering how PP Cyber Power compares to Cyberflash and Big Hitter.
 
#16
ART, have you ever used Topsin Cyberflash or Tourna Big Hitter Silver? Yeah, I figure Luxilon ALU is almost too unique for anyone to clone...just wondering how other ALU imitators compare. It seems that Pro's Pro Cyber power is yet another string that is said to "play like" Luxilon ALU. Since the Topspin Cyberflash and Tourna Big Hittler have also been said to do a good job of imitating Lux ALU, I was wondering how PP Cyber Power compares to Cyberflash and Big Hitter.
Apparently they have a cyber power silver that is meant to be stiffer than the white. Also Topspins cyber blue used to be called cyber power.

Can't be from the same factory though because topspin is made in germany and pros pro is made in japan.
 
#17
ART, have you ever used Topsin Cyberflash or Tourna Big Hitter Silver? Yeah, I figure Luxilon ALU is almost too unique for anyone to clone...just wondering how other ALU imitators compare. It seems that Pro's Pro Cyber power is yet another string that is said to "play like" Luxilon ALU. Since the Topspin Cyberflash and Tourna Big Hittler have also been said to do a good job of imitating Lux ALU, I was wondering how PP Cyber Power compares to Cyberflash and Big Hitter.
I have tested once Topsin Cyberflash, comparing it to ALU, I remember that have less power, more soft, more pocketing on the ball for spin potential, tension was better comparing to ALU, it's somehow more flexible or elastic than ALU.
ALU has a metal feel that I haven't found in any other string.

Great Feedback from ALU Power, that's what the pro's love about a string or racket, the feedback!

For us, any other string will be just has good or even better, because the new co-poly strings the tension and the power last longer, for half the price :)
 

Xenakis

Hall of Fame
#18
I didn't like Cyber Power at all, it was a while ago so I can't give you specifics but it wasn't anything like as good as Alu power.
 
#19
Yeah it is said the Topspin and Tourna strings are the same and I remember reading on the Tourna Big Hitter package that it has aluminum fibers in it...which I think is why those strings are said to feel or play like Luxilon ALU. But it is true that nothing actual feels and/or plays like ALU. Since I've read people saying Pro's Pro Cyber power playing like Luxilon ALU, I was just wondering if others here who have used it actually think that way too.
 
#27
I bought a reel of PP Stratagem. Just bypassed the set since the reel was so affordable. It's a clone of Black Widow. On one final tie off it broke, having become brittle from the final weaves. That's the only time that has ever happened to me, so I'm just more careful with that now. Also, it was over powered in my Head LM OS, even with higher tensions. But I found a home for it in my Dunlop AG200. At 54 lbs. dropweight, it has comfort, control and very good spin. It took a few stringings to get a good setup, but I found a good price/performer. I'll try it next on my Dunlop Bio 200 at 54/53.
 
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#30
I've been eyeing the Nano Vandetti. What gauge/tension do you string it? Your thoughts on it being comparable to higher-priced competitors? Thanks.
I'm stringing the 1.30mm at 46# in a ProStaff 90, and find it has the crispness I like in BHSR, with a similar spin production. Tough to choose between the two, but I have a reel of each and a summer ahead. Haven't tried any of the comparable high dollar strings, and probably won't. I see no need to

The 1.25mm version played very well at 48# in a Flexpoint Prestige I borrowed from my brother to try, which his son quickly laid claim to.
 
#31
I'm stringing the 1.30mm at 46# in a ProStaff 90, and find it has the crispness I like in BHSR, with a similar spin production. Tough to choose between the two, but I have a reel of each and a summer ahead. Haven't tried any of the comparable high dollar strings, and probably won't. I see no need to

The 1.25mm version played very well at 48# in a Flexpoint Prestige I borrowed from my brother to try, which his son quickly laid claim to.
That's right... I might try some in my Prestige. I've hit BHSR and enjoyed it. Might be my next purchase.
 
#32
Lethal 8 1.24mmm

Has anyone tried this string? I was hybriding it with OGSM 16g at 53/55 lbs and it played well. I decided to try it full bed. Since I knew it was a stiff string, I decided to string it at 47 lbs. Wow.. It played really well..ball pocketing , power, spin... but that sensation was good for about 4 hours of playing. I strung it up last week and now this week it plays ok.. sometime feel like trampoline but still able to keep ball in play...

I am noticing my shoulder and wrist have slight pain... not sure if it's me playing more now that it's summer or the string.. or both!
 
#33
I bought a reel of PP Stratagem. Just bypassed the set since the reel was so affordable. It's a clone of Black Widow. On one final tie off it broke, having become brittle from the final weaves. That's the only time that has ever happened to me, so I'm just more careful with that now. Also, it was over powered in my Head LM OS, even with higher tensions. But I found a home for it in my Dunlop AG200. At 54 lbs. dropweight, it has comfort, control and very good spin. It took a few stringings to get a good setup, but I found a good price/performer. I'll try it next on my Dunlop Bio 200 at 54/53.
I tried the Stratagem in my Bio 200 @54/53 and then 55. The 55 feels like the right tension for me for that frame, but the Bio 200 just makes this string feel very plasticky. It feels much better, with a lot more feel and better pocketing in the AG200. I'll see how it does in my MW 200G 95 next, when that racquet frees up. Does anyone know what Dunlop did to the Bio 200 to make it feel like it's combining with the string more?
 
#35
Karstic... of the Pro's Pro strings that you've tried, which one do you find the spinnest? and which one do you prefer most overall?
Lethal 5 is the only one of their shaped polyester strings I've tried and I'm not convinced it offered much greater spin than the Nano Vendetta, which is my favorite. I haven't tried the more aggressively shaped ones, but then I don't have a very heavy topspin game.

Of others I've tried, Gold Power worked well in a KPS 88, but was only so-so in other frames. Red Devil was roughly equivalent, but Plus Power was a disappointment, though others seem to like it. Perhaps I just didn't come across the sweet spot of matching tension, gauge, string, and racket. Also, I've a couple of sets of Nano Cyber Power that I haven't had a chance to try yet. Perhaps later this week.

If someone is looking for a synthetic gut that's a little on the crisp side, I suggest trying the Ultimate Fiber out.
 
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Imago

Hall of Fame
#37
Lethal Weapon with Black Out is a nice hybrid, at least for me and my partner. Black Out and anything that emulates xcel 16 is a surprizingly arm-friendly combo, too.
 
#38
how are below ones compared to signum pro poly plasma ? i use poly plasa now and i've tested pro hurricane tour that i like because is crisp and has more power than poly plasma.

nano vendetta , ichiban spin, black out, red devil
 
#43
blackout vs vendetta nano

I hybridize both with red devil as the cross for more a arm comfort. Vendetta nano alone gives me a little tennis elbow. I use a Babolat aero pro drive, a very stiff racket. Blackout is stiffer than nano vendetta, so I lower it's tension by one pound. Blackout drives the ball forward because it is lower power and I have to hit through the ball more. Nano vendetta kicks the ball up more because it has more power so I have to hit up more to keep the ball in. Blackout has good bite on the ball because of it's edges. Not sure if that will last since strings do wear. But nano vendetta has great ball bites too. Blackout's spin is different, and any spin advantage over nano vendetta is minor, if present. On my stiff racket, I prefer the softer, more comfortable, nano vendetta, which has better ball pocketing. Blackout has no ball pocketing, and feels stiffer. I string nano vendetta at 42.5 pounds. Blackout at 41.5 pounds. Red Devil crosses for both at 44 pounds. I use the thickest gauge for all strings. I would not buy Blackout again because it is too stiff on my stiff racket. More on Blackout later when I have use it more.
 
#44
I think you must try ProsPro Plus Power
This is correct. Very close, if not identical, to SPPP.

To the OP: I think how much you like Pro's Pro depends on how discerning your taste is when it comes to strings. I'm not super duper picky, so I use them all the time and my wallet is much happier for it.
 
#45
This is correct. Very close, if not identical, to SPPP.

To the OP: I think how much you like Pro's Pro depends on how discerning your taste is when it comes to strings. I'm not super duper picky, so I use them all the time and my wallet is much happier for it.
Well said. For me, Nano Vendatta gives me all I need, and at a price that's very good.
 
#46
I really like Blackout. I mean, really really like Black Out.

I restring my poly every three hitting sessions no matter what and at $40 a reel it's a steal. It feels great until I cut it out. I could probably make it last longer, but I'd rather cut it out and save my arm
 
#47
I used to string full bed Solinco TB 19, but feel that it is too trampoline like,
so, decided to try Vendetta 17 & cross with TB main,
results = fantastic feel, much better than full TB,
it is my go to string/setup now
thank you Pro's Pro! :)
 
#48
Pros Pro Blackout is very similar to Black Code and the Red Devil, Red Code. I really like the Blackout for a crisp spin poly. The Ichiban Spin is nearly identical to Babolat Pro Hurricane Tour. I haven't tried too many other ones from the company, but some like Strategem which was advertised as a Black Widow clone, is far from being as good as that. Its hard to say, get a set and try them out for $8 when you can buy a reel for $40.
 
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