Pro's Pro Strings!?

Hi,
I use Hexaspin 1.30 on my Pure Aero 2019 from November sincerely is not a bad strings.
Now I’m very interesting to try the Eruption... Can I know the differences?
Thanks
 
Hi,
I use Hexaspin 1.30 on my Pure Aero 2019 from November sincerely is not a bad strings.
Now I’m very interesting to try the Eruption... Can I know the differences?
Thanks
Hey igabbo

I actually used eruption and it seems like there is a mistake on the picture and the description on the Pro's Pros, eruption is actually a round poly, not a hexagonal string. The performance is not too good, definitely softer than hexaspin and strategem 8 but loses tension much faster, since it's a round poly of course it had a lower spin potential than hexaspin.
Hope this helpa
 
Hey igabbo

I actually used eruption and it seems like there is a mistake on the picture and the description on the Pro's Pros, eruption is actually a round poly, not a hexagonal string. The performance is not too good, definitely softer than hexaspin and strategem 8 but loses tension much faster, since it's a round poly of course it had a lower spin potential than hexaspin.
Hope this helpa
As said before in the thread it is a mistake on the picture only, confirmed by Racquetdepot. The string has 6 edges, no doubt about that. However you are the first one reporting big loss of tension. I agree it is softer than Stratagem 8, but that one is really harsch and unforgiving.
 
You're right, indeed strategem 8 can be harsh especially if strung at higher tensions, for me, Pro's Pro concept seems to be one of their best, if not, their best poly, consistent response, better tension maintenance than the other Pro's Pro strings, not a spin monster but it's a very predictable, yet not that harsh string.
 
You're right, indeed strategem 8 can be harsh especially if strung at higher tensions, for me, Pro's Pro concept seems to be one of their best, if not, their best poly, consistent response, better tension maintenance than the other Pro's Pro strings, not a spin monster but it's a very predictable, yet not that harsh string.
OK got curious about the so much discussed Concept. Next on the line.
 
I can't find anything on blue steel, which is the string used by Marcos Giron. Or at least my quick google search didn't pull anything. Did it get renamed or discontinued?
 
Smooth and good tension maintenance: Concept.
OK a couple of hours with pp Concept 1,30. Raquet PS97 50lbs decided to prestretch 10% after reading some comments here. Even with prestretch, the mushy feeling prevails. Nice power though, the ball really speeds up. I'd say good for returners and good to play on opponent ball speed. Gotta be carefull with spin, really little snapback effect, due to softness and mushiness of string.
 
Any reason why you chose the 1.18? If your Blade is the 18x20 version it could be a good choice, AFAIK APD only comes 16x19. Keep us informed on durability. I just cut out the Eruption from my PS97 after about 7 hours of play. I really felt good playing with eruption (I am thinking to use it in a tourny end of month) till the last hour of play where I felt like performance went all the sudden down.
i went with the thinner gauge for more liveliness and bite. for me, the 18x20 tends to feel boardy with 16g in the mid 50s. i usually get 17g (like a BO 1.24) and i hardly ever break it, so i cut it out at the 6-8hr mark.
So far i'm at 4-5hr mark on this round of stringing and still feels ok, though not snapping as much. Most likely cut it at 6-7hr.
 
i went with the thinner gauge for more liveliness and bite. for me, the 18x20 tends to feel boardy with 16g in the mid 50s. i usually get 17g (like a BO 1.24) and i hardly ever break it, so i cut it out at the 6-8hr mark.
So far i'm at 4-5hr mark on this round of stringing and still feels ok, though not snapping as much. Most likely cut it at 6-7hr.
That is pretty much my mark as well with Eruption. :)
 
I posted this as a thread. But on second thought, I should have posted it here. Here's the copy and paste:

Substituting Eruption 1.18 for Hyper G 1.15, in an Eruption 1.18/Black Force 1.14 poly/poly hybrid

The racquet is the Aerogel 200. I strung HG/BF in it @51/51, but with the temperatures rising I strung it @52/52 this time. I'm out of Black Force anyway, so it's time to make a Pro's Pro order. I was going to go along on packs of HG for special occasions until I realized that if I substitute Eruption for the mains, the new hybrid could be a steady diet.

Is it too reckless to just make an order with a reel of Eruption 1.18 in it without testing a set first, or is it close enough to HG 1.15 to be a safe bet?

Much appreciated
 
I decided to get 2 sets of Eruption 1.18 to see if I like it in this hybrid and also as a full bed in my Biomimetic 200. At about $50 it seemed like a safe bet to go for the reel. But with my Black Force reel purchase at the same time, the total was getting a little steep.
 
hi muppet. i see in your signature you are playing a black force/gutex ultra hybrid. as the gutex ultra is 1.30mm, what diameter are you using for the black force? I am wondering what difference in diameters between main and cross is okay. Let us know how you like the eruption 1.18
 
hi muppet. i see in your signature you are playing a black force/gutex ultra hybrid. as the gutex ultra is 1.30mm, what diameter are you using for the black force? I am wondering what difference in diameters between main and cross is okay. Let us know how you like the eruption 1.18
The Black Force 1.14/Gutex Ultra 1.30 is great for my game. I use a 5 lb. tension differential. The snap back is slightly delayed, which matches my medium speed stroke well. What I'm saying is I get good spin with it. But this may be highly personal to me. Both of these strings are elastic, the Gutex Ultra more so because it's a multi. I love some dwell time, so this is another nice characteristic of this setup.

As for tension differentials, I usually go with +3 lbs. for SG crosses and +5 lbs. for multi crosses. If you have stiffer strings in the crosses or a more flexible (lower twist weight) hoop, you may want to go down a lb. on the crosses. Eruption arrives tommorow.
 
Thank you for the reply, Muppet. I take from your answer that you do not experience any problems with a diameter difference of 0.16mm between mains and crosses, right? How is your eruption 1.18 test going? I am not so worried about durability as I am not breaking strings often, but would be curious about elasticity endurance?
 
Thank you for the reply, Muppet. I take from your answer that you do not experience any problems with a diameter difference of 0.16mm between mains and crosses, right? How is your eruption 1.18 test going? I am not so worried about durability as I am not breaking strings often, but would be curious about elasticity endurance?
Black Force 1.14 has a very slippery, hard coating so I haven't had a problem with durability or performance. And the Gutex Ultra is pretty slippery for a multi as well. I've had no issues with the difference in diameter. I used to use Cyber Flash 1.23/Hexy Fiber 1.36 and it played great for a little while. Pretty soon the crosses got abrasion and stiffened up the bed. But both of those strings were less slippery than BF/GU.

I have Eruption 1.18 but Haven't strung it up yet. I have fresh strings in all 6 of my racqets and I'm not a string breaker, so it might be a while before you hear my report. I'm planning on using it in the mains of my Aerogel 200 with Black Force in the crosses. I will also do a full bed of Eruption in my Biomimetic 200, which has a Zyex hybrid in it now so that will take a while too. At some point I will need to commit to BF/GU in the Biomimetic 200. As for elasticity endurance, I've noticed that Black Force is somewhat elastic and holds up very well. But when I played it with Gutex Ultra in the crosses @51/57 in a 95" 18x20 347g racquet, in 85-95 degree temps, the strings felt rubbery. I string it at 49/54 now and it feels better at least in cooler temps.
 
I had never tried a poly before and for some reason I bought a reel of Red Devil 1.24. I couldn't bring myself to buy a single set when the reel was only $34. I figured if I didn't like it I could offer it to my customers. Previously I was using Gutex Ultra at 57 lbs and with my 16x19 racquet I was breaking it after only 3 or 4 hours.

So I was really curious how I'd hit with a poly. I started with a hybrid setup. Gutex in the crosses and Red Devil in the mains. My elbow had been iffy for over a year (even with the multi) so I dropped the tension down to 50 lbs. It was meh and my elbow didn't like it. Poly didn't seem to be for me. For giggles I strung my racquet full bed of RD at 44. After a little bit of hitting and getting used to the different launch angle and the drastically different feel...I freaking loved it. The extra spin I was getting was incredible. Plenty of power yet sufficient control. More pop and spin on my serve. I didn't have to straighten my strings after every point like with the Gutex. And best of all my elbow has never felt better. (I'm about 3 weeks in with the poly) My game has noticeably improved from just this change. It kind of feels like I'm cheating.

I definitely noticed a tension drop pretty quickly. I'm going to do a machine pre stretch next time. But even after the tension drops it still hits great. I've got about 7 hrs on one racquet and it still feels good and the mains still snap back. I'm tempted to try some of the other polys mentioned here but since Red Devil is generally considered to be soft and my elbow and I are liking it, I should probably just stick with it.
 
My current setup is ProPro's Cyclone @ 57lbs in a full bed. Strung up the Angell yesterday and I love the way the fresh set of string plays. I'm a string breaker and these held up approaching the 25 hr mark, but I do not recommend playing them that long as they lose their snap back ability. I should have cut them out sooner but wanted to see if I could break them. I have nothing bad to say about these strings and I'm perfectly fine with restringing every 2 weeks.
 
I had never tried a poly before and for some reason I bought a reel of Red Devil 1.24. I couldn't bring myself to buy a single set when the reel was only $34. I figured if I didn't like it I could offer it to my customers. Previously I was using Gutex Ultra at 57 lbs and with my 16x19 racquet I was breaking it after only 3 or 4 hours.

So I was really curious how I'd hit with a poly. I started with a hybrid setup. Gutex in the crosses and Red Devil in the mains. My elbow had been iffy for over a year (even with the multi) so I dropped the tension down to 50 lbs. It was meh and my elbow didn't like it. Poly didn't seem to be for me. For giggles I strung my racquet full bed of RD at 44. After a little bit of hitting and getting used to the different launch angle and the drastically different feel...I freaking loved it. The extra spin I was getting was incredible. Plenty of power yet sufficient control. More pop and spin on my serve. I didn't have to straighten my strings after every point like with the Gutex. And best of all my elbow has never felt better. (I'm about 3 weeks in with the poly) My game has noticeably improved from just this change. It kind of feels like I'm cheating.

I definitely noticed a tension drop pretty quickly. I'm going to do a machine pre stretch next time. But even after the tension drops it still hits great. I've got about 7 hrs on one racquet and it still feels good and the mains still snap back. I'm tempted to try some of the other polys mentioned here but since Red Devil is generally considered to be soft and my elbow and I are liking it, I should probably just stick with it.
I have a client that strung one of his 3 Yonex VCORE 98 with Red Devil 1.24 at 42 lbs. I was kind of confused but thought...OK he is the client. After 3 days he brings the other 2 Yonex to get the same setup. He simply loved it!
I went to watch him play. He is a 40 year old tounament player. He does use spin, but I would say his shot is more 'old school'. Now the power he generates from the string is really remarkable. He is totally satisfied.
And.....as you said, time goes by, and he feels no reason to cut out the strings, which translates in excelent durability.
 
I have a client that strung one of his 3 Yonex VCORE 98 with Red Devil 1.24 at 42 lbs. I was kind of confused but thought...OK he is the client. After 3 days he brings the other 2 Yonex to get the same setup. He simply loved it!
I went to watch him play. He is a 40 year old tounament player. He does use spin, but I would say his shot is more 'old school'. Now the power he generates from the string is really remarkable. He is totally satisfied.
And.....as you said, time goes by, and he feels no reason to cut out the strings, which translates in excelent durability.
Yeah I NEVER thought I'd like a low tension like that. I think anyone with relatively sound strokes could/should give it a try.
 
I have a client that strung one of his 3 Yonex VCORE 98 with Red Devil 1.24 at 42 lbs. I was kind of confused but thought...OK he is the client. After 3 days he brings the other 2 Yonex to get the same setup. He simply loved it!
I went to watch him play. He is a 40 year old tounament player. He does use spin, but I would say his shot is more 'old school'. Now the power he generates from the string is really remarkable. He is totally satisfied.
And.....as you said, time goes by, and he feels no reason to cut out the strings, which translates in excelent durability.
Interesting experiments indeed.
I was first tempted to try the newer Pros pro cyclone power, because of the supposed power, spin and durability, but now in doubt.
Would the red devil at 42lbs (which equates to 19kg?) maybe better?
Does it have the same durability and pocketing as Concept?
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
I just strung up some Ice Code poly in an 18x19 racket with an ATW pattern. I used 18.5 Kg for all mains and bottom cross and crosses 1 - 18 were strung at 19.4 Kg. I used the Stringway Online Tension Advisor to get the tension range with a DT of 28 and my racket's dimensions. I know this is a Pro's Pro thread but poly is poly. I really like this string / tension combo and it gets better with age (like me LOL.) I may drop the tension even more the next time I string it.
 
I just strung up some Ice Code poly in an 18x19 racket with an ATW pattern. I used 18.5 Kg for all mains and bottom cross and crosses 1 - 18 were strung at 19.4 Kg. I used the Stringway Online Tension Advisor to get the tension range with a DT of 28 and my racket's dimensions. I know this is a Pro's Pro thread but poly is poly. I really like this string / tension combo and it gets better with age (like me LOL.) I may drop the tension even more the next time I string it.
If all poly were the same, you d better buy some reasonable priced Pros Pro instead of overpriced Technifibre.
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
If all poly were the same, you d better buy some reasonable priced Pros Pro instead of overpriced Technifibre.
Not what I meant but all poly should have similar characteristics. I’m surely not saying Pros Pro and Ice Code are on the same level or I would never have bought Ice Code. But for the money there are some that will surely think Pros Pro is a much better deal. I’m not one of them.
 
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