Pro's Pro Strings!?

lucieisland

Semi-Pro
Only i disagree on Lucie about Babolat frames, at least the Aero storm and old Pure control team are just fine players rackets like the Heads she uses. just a tad less flexible maybe. And Babolat is french Lucie ;-)
yes, I was able to play for a while with pure storm and pure control babolat .. these are really superb racquets, but when I speak of babolat, I mean these pure drives, which are headaches .. with rigidity of 68-69-71-72 .. 17 year old girls who put on extra rigid poly strings ... and who then stop playing tennis at 18 because more arms ...

I like the shape of the pure drive, I played with frames based on the pure drive, with a stiffness of 64. I think it is always somewhere at home .. I must indeed have 3 pacific X- fast who must sleep in a corner ..
 

what_army

Rookie
If I had to choose, I’d rather play with PP colour line 1.40 as my only string for the rest of the year than to play a set with a babolat.
 

ron schaap

Hall of Fame
If I had to choose, I’d rather play with PP colour line 1.40 as my only string for the rest of the year than to play a set with a babolat.
Do you play colorline fullbed and in which frame?
yes, I was able to play for a while with pure storm and pure control babolat .. these are really superb racquets, but when I speak of babolat, I mean these pure drives, which are headaches .. with rigidity of 68-69-71-72 .. 17 year old girls who put on extra rigid poly strings ... and who then stop playing tennis at 18 because more arms ...

I like the shape of the pure drive, I played with frames based on the pure drive, with a stiffness of 64. I think it is always somewhere at home .. I must indeed have 3 pacific X- fast who must sleep in a corner ..
The Yonex dr 98 is even softer. :)
Lucie somewhere you mentioned that a friend of you, who is good french player only uses Pros pro concept. Which gauge 1.22, 1.28 or 1.32 at which tension do you know? I have used 1.28 and like its pockability and playability time. Compared to Plus power it has less power.
 

1HBHfanatic

Legend
-sooo, question for anyone here:
-i got a set of tecnifibre.ice-code(LINK)
-anyone try it and see/found a pros pro equal
-i am looking to test it side-by-side, and need/would like something similar in feel
-so far i am thinking nano.vendeta or regular vendeta
-any thoughts ??
-an update
-i strung up my 2x matching wilson blades,16/19, for this string play test
-tecnifibre.ice.code(white), 17g 1.25mm at 50/48lbs
-pros.pro.nano.vendetta(silver), 17g 1.25mm at 50/48lbs

-i tought it would be similar string comperason, Nope!! big fail
-pp.nano.vendetta is stiffer, solid stiff
-tecnifibre.ice code is a power poly, soft!!, more like a head.linx

-if i had to redo the pp string choice, i would provably try pp.red.devil instead
 

ron schaap

Hall of Fame
-an update
-i strung up my 2x matching wilson blades,16/19, for this string play test
-tecnifibre.ice.code(white), 17g 1.25mm at 50/48lbs
-pros.pro.nano.vendetta(silver), 17g 1.25mm at 50/48lbs

-i tought it would be similar string comperason, Nope!! big fail
-pp.nano.vendetta is stiffer, solid stiff
-tecnifibre.ice code is a power poly, soft!!, more like a head.linx

-if i had to redo the pp string choice, i would provably try pp.red.devil instead
Good you tried yourself. Now you know. I have not tried either string. But most reviews say every Pros pro string is soft except Strategem 8. I my self find Concept 1.28 enough soft when strung less than 23kg.
Maybe Lucie who has tested a lot of Pros Pro strings could tell you more. The non nano version of Vendetta could be softer or the 1.20 gauge if you can find it?
 

1HBHfanatic

Legend
-an update
-i strung up my 2x matching wilson blades,16/19, for this string play test
-tecnifibre.ice.code(white), 17g 1.25mm at 50/48lbs
-pros.pro.nano.vendetta(silver), 17g 1.25mm at 50/48lbs

-i tought it would be similar string comperason, Nope!! big fail
-pp.nano.vendetta is stiffer, solid stiff
-tecnifibre.ice code is a power poly, soft!!, more like a head.linx

-if i had to redo the pp string choice, i would provably try pp.red.devil instead
-update
-i restrung the 1x racquet with pp.nano.v and threw in 17lg 1.24mm pp.red.devil 50/48lbs, yesterday
-i got to test it this morning against the tec.ice.code
-nailed the feel of the strings!!, pretty dam close!, i say about 90% match
-i think there could be better matching pros pro string , but i am not sure
-out of all the ones i have in my inventory, these 2 are the closest in comperason

-anyone try their pp.SOFT polys??

-the tec.ice.code felt more solid, more volume on impact
-pp.red.devil is a 1.24mm soft string that stretches while stringing, so it looses some of its volume or ,"body" and thins out a bit, maybe too much,
-i dont order thinner than 17g pp.red.devil for that reason, would break too fast

-ive been hesitant to try the pp.SOFT polys, because they might stretch "too much"??, but i think i might just have to give them a try
 
-ive been hesitant to try the pp.SOFT polys, because they might stretch "too much"??, but i think i might just have to give them a try
If you are really concerned about that, I suggest ...

1/ If you string a higher tensions (54lbs and over), try a little bit of pre-stretching of the string.
2/ Try much lower tensions (say mid 40s or lower). It might feel strange at first.
 

VSK

Rookie
I am a hyper-G user and play with 48 to 52lb tension level. Recently bought a stringing machine. I like to try the PP string in hybrid, as I have shoulder issues. @lucieisland suggested dura ace 1.20mm with blackforce 1.14mm cross. I am a 3.5 player with a loopy stroke style with a medium swing (not fast), Will the same string combo work for me. Any suggestions appreciated. I play for six hours a week. Thank you.
 

4-string

Professional
Could it be that the anti pros pro members are just jealous because they realize they spent the whole time a massive amount on wrong and much to expensive strings?
Uhhh, no. [emoji849]

I have a dozen reels of PP strings laying around, never use the stuff these days.
 

ChimpChimp

Semi-Pro
I am a hyper-G user and play with 48 to 52lb tension level. Recently bought a stringing machine. I like to try the PP string in hybrid, as I have shoulder issues. @lucieisland suggested dura ace 1.20mm with blackforce 1.14mm cross. I am a 3.5 player with a loopy stroke style with a medium swing (not fast), Will the same string combo work for me. Any suggestions appreciated. I play for six hours a week. Thank you.
dura ace is a squash string, in case you didn't notice. She said it is also good for tennis.
 

lucieisland

Semi-Pro
dura ace .. from PP is a multi, which I find interesting, I hardly ever lift. So, a few months ago I was able to try several pro pack from pro stock from isospeed pro control "for player" .. in 1.20mm

it's really very good, and since I don't break quite a lot since I play flat, 1.20m isospeed lasts me beyond 5 hours, with an exceptional feeling. but, very expensive

While looking for a 1.20mm multi or s-gut, my brother made me try dura ace, which he used because in his club he had a player who played tennis and squash. and he was stringing for him.

i tried, and found dura ace "squash" to be very close to "king gut" tennis. maybe same construction

it lasts me about 5 hours.

but currently i still have a lot of 1.25mm mantis. and I received some Toalson asterisk 1.20mm "tennis" player test set, and talking to the toalson europe representative, he told me that nylon 66 "squash" s-gut was used by some for tennis . which is normal. a s-gut is a s-gut !. (not test it yet, beacause having many matchs for the moment).

but once again, I started playing with very thin gauges, for better feel. but it does not suit everyone. I adapted my game, I use 18/19 oversize head, and 18/20 head 630.

on a more open pattern I wouldn't dare use these strings.
 
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FD3S

Hall of Fame
Think I'm gonna have to relegate the Black Force/Gutex Ultra hybrid set-up I had in my Pure Controls to a fall/winter indoor setup when I'm only hitting occasionally; turns out I break the Gutex waaaaaaaay too quickly to use it as a regular thing. I never used to break multis before (been a while since I've used one instead of a syn gut cross) so either my strokes have gotten a little better over the years or Gutex Ultra is less durable than every other multi I've ever tried :-D But holy damn was this combo ever comfy, and it even had a ton of feel for a hybrid too! If you don't break strings and want a great hybrid, this is right up your alley.
 
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ron schaap

Hall of Fame
I’m also intrigued by this superior gut. It’s more expensive than other PP multis, I wonder what it is.

Claycourt+ is supposedly similar to x1 biphase so I would expect it to be very good. Of course gutex and hitec are also great multis.

I’ve bought a reel of PP interceptor, I’ll post a review in a few weeks.
That's a great answer Lucie, thank you. I have PP concept 1.28 but never tried it fb. I'll start there.
Am i the only one awaiting these reviews with bated breath?

I used and loved playing a full bed of RD.
Too powerful? No. If it was not so red, I would still be paying with it. 1.24. at @54 it was great for me. Power and control with poaching.
Therefore the hybrid with Concept.
Still to come, RD hybrid with Synthetic gut.
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anyone advise which of pro pro's polyester strings is the most durable. some of them are advertised as soft so i assume they will break like a knife through butter.

i dont care about string performance. performance is generated by a player and the racket frame, less so the strings.
 
okay thanks, Karma Tennis, does synthetic gut last longer than poly?
Imho, all other things being equal, Synthetic Gut last much longer than Poly strings. The only real upside with Poly is if you are a big hitter that can generate lots of racquet head speed, most Poly strings will make it easier for you to keep the ball in the court without it sailing long - mainly due to the ability to generate greater amounts of topspin assuming you have the right technique for that. But that upside comes at the expense of durability, shorter playability duration and financial cost.

Too many tennis players out there are wasting both their time and money using Poly strings (of any Brand) when Synthetic Gut would be a much better alternative.
 

lucieisland

Semi-Pro
okay thanks, Karma Tennis, does synthetic gut last longer than poly?
it depends.
what is it to last long? ..

What are you looking for?

for you it is durable .. does not break?
in this case, no, for that you will just have to take Plus Power 1.33 and there it will be durable!. because S-gut is quite soft (abrasion resistance), and a Color Line of 1.40mm does not will never last longer than a 1.25mm poly!

is it durable for you ... does not lose tension ..
again, it will be no. because S-gut loses tension quite quickly, I would say beyond 4 hours for color line it will be dead.

you are going to ask me the question: why then use S-gut?
because for a time of 4 hours it will be the best option in terms of dynamics, comfort, power and control that you can have for less than 0.90 €! .. (200m of color line costs 15 €) ...

while some poly will be dead after 3 hours, but will cost you more than 15 €.

because s-gut wears out pretty quickly by rubbing string on top of each other, some people use it with a poly in the crosses.
but of course, this very inexpensive assembly will not have an eternal lifespan, since it will be dead (tension stability) after 4 hours maximum.

you will tell me, why not use a multi? because in a hybrid the weak link is the weakest string! therefore, the fragility of the multi and the low tension stability of poly!

now, if you are really looking for a solution that is durable (not breackable string) but also playable (tension stability), there are only two solutions for me:
1) full natural gut with stringsaver ..
2) natural gut with pure kevlar in the crosses! Kevlar laid at low tension, in the finest gauges. the kevlar coating will make the natural gut slide (which you can grease with silicone), and the kevlar hardly loses tension! ..
 
Thanks Karma Tennis and LucieIsland. Some great points to think about.

Based on that, im really only concerned about durability. im going through strings every second day and costing me 25us dollars each time to get strung. im not getting a stringing machine.

So ill order some Plus Power 1.33 based the the suggestion it is the most durable pro's pro tennis string.
 

lucieisland

Semi-Pro
Thanks Karma Tennis and LucieIsland. Some great points to think about.

Based on that, im really only concerned about durability. im going through strings every second day and costing me 25us dollars each time to get strung. im not getting a stringing machine.

So ill order some Plus Power 1.33 based the the suggestion it is the most durable pro's pro tennis string.
if every two day it's a real problem ..

it works out on a basis of $ 10 per restring to about $ 1800 per year? ..

it is enormous!..
a stringing machine will cost you between $ 250 and $ 1000 for an electric one. but i think there are so many great manual machines out there below $ 3-400! ...

even using a restring every other day, it won't cost you once the machine is purchased for less than $ 3 per racket!

I think, and this is up to me, on this basis, strings like cyberpower is almost a top string! like the eruption, the blackout the concept, and many others!

each of these strings will cost you around $ 25 to $ 40 per 200m, so between $ 1.5 and $ 3 per restrung a racket! calculate!

the main fault cited by many people here is: the low tension stability of PP, but if you break every 2 hours, that does not concern you !.
 
Thanks LucieIsland, i appreciate you laying it on the table like that.

if i get the stringing machine i still have to spend 30min restringing them.

Pro pro's website is not great for explaining the difference between the strings in terms of durability. has cyberpower, eruption, blackout and concept the same durability if its the same gauge.
 

lucieisland

Semi-Pro
Thanks LucieIsland, i appreciate you laying it on the table like that.

if i get the stringing machine i still have to spend 30min restringing them.

Pro pro's website is not great for explaining the difference between the strings in terms of durability. has cyberpower, eruption, blackout and concept the same durability if its the same gauge.

again, what is sustainability for you? ..

resistance to abrasion? .. to breack?
do you break your strings because they wear out from friction? or because it is off-center? ..

if it is wear and tear, I played for a while with fairly heavy strings, at 25-26kg, then I started to have a sore arm, and my brother made me pass very quickly, less from 15 days to 17-18kg, then I went from 1.30 to 1.20mm.

it's like a knife! if you press very hard (high voltage) you cut quickly, if you press weakly (low voltage) you cut less quickly.

people think that with low tension the balls will come out quickly, but in fact the stiffness and native elasticity of poly prevents that! Muguruza or Jack Socks are there to prove it, they have played (17.5kg for mugu) and still play for Socks well below 18kg! ..

with the power of some atp / wta players, when we see that some play or have played with tension as low as 20-21kg, we wonder how we could not play with these low tensions! if it comes out, it's a technical problem, no string!

then, you should know that if you really break with abrasion, you can climb very high at the level of the thick gauges.

but anyway, if you break strings in 2 days, upgrading to a higher gauge string doesn't guarantee you will keep your string for 10 days, and the point is not there.

remembering that somewhere you have a certain chance of breaking them, just as quickly, because the poly that do not break and stay sometimes 10 to 20h provide injuries and TE!


but currently, which gauge are you breaking? on real abrasion?

but of course, I would be you, I would use the thickest gauge, with a difference of 2kg for the crosses, and I would see what it was.
 

1HBHfanatic

Legend
@gotdatennisbug

-just adding to what @Karma Tennis pointed out on his earlier posts
-i would also like to know what your age is? teens, 20s, 30s
-but biggest factor is the racquet; what racquet you using/pattern?
-most of the times, just changing the racquet will stop/reduce the string breaking
-to answer your question, pp.concept felt like a durable string to me
 

ron schaap

Hall of Fame
anyone advise which of pro pro's polyester strings is the most durable. some of them are advertised as soft so i assume they will break like a knife through butter.

i dont care about string performance. performance is generated by a player and the racket frame, less so the strings.
I find concept 1.28 already very durable/ stable. The 1.33 gauge should be unbreakable. Same for nano plus power 1.32
 

what_army

Rookie
Am i the only one awaiting these reviews with bated breath?


??:unsure:
Apologies, I have just received a couple of racquets strung with concept mains / hitec multi crosses and have left another couple with my stringer to try interceptor mains / gutex crosses, all with 24kg mains and 25kg crosses.

Review of concept/hitec will come tomorrow and I’ll also get a chance to hit on thursday afternoon and in the evening, so I’ll be sure to update.

I’m not too familiar with poly/multi hybrids, as I’ve always strung the other way around, but due to a mishap I have been playing recently with 4g/multi feel and have become very fond of it.
 

what_army

Rookie
Quick first impressions on concept 1.28 mains / hitec multifibre 1.20 crosses (strung 24kg mains, 25gk crosses on a tc95 V2 16x19) after rallying for about 30min.

Comfort: I loved it, it's very muted and comfortable even at the tensions I strung at. I was expecting some of the concept crispiness to come through but this combo feels closer to a pillow
Power: I didn't go all out but could tell this is not a powerful combo, I could still hit with decent pace
Control: coming from 4g I didn't feel like I was getting the same level of control but it was better than any multi fb or multi mains/poly crosses hybrid I remember having tried
Spin: noticeably lower launch angle than with other setups as the multi cross locks the stringbed. Spin was below average. Concept as a main doesn't slide much against hitec crosses. But if you string this hybrid the other way around it will likely be a very different as concept is very slick.
Playability: will update
Durability: will update

Overall concept seems very balanced to me. Assuming playability is above average as everyone seems to imply, I can see why this is a favourite amongst its PP peers.
 
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1HBHfanatic

Legend
@what_army
-im not gonna rain on your parade
- i am not a pp.concept fan,, but it really all depends on the tension and/or the racquet, on which its strung on
-keep us posted on how long it lasts you
-i like several of the other brands,
-PP.RED.DEVIL i would have to say is the MOST famous of the pp strings, lots of talk here about it
-but, its all a personal choice
 

what_army

Rookie
@what_army
-im not gonna rain on your parade
- i am not a pp.concept fan,, but it really all depends on the tension and/or the racquet, on which its strung on
-keep us posted on how long it lasts you
-i like several of the other brands,
-PP.RED.DEVIL i would have to say is the MOST famous of the pp strings, lots of talk here about it
-but, its all a personal choice
Thanks @1HBHfanatic but the only thing I'm really liking so far is the comfort (and that's partly due to the hitec multi). I'm under the impression that PP concept may be a well-balanced string with no particular feature standing out too much but I'm really looking forward to tomorrow when I'll get a chance to play another 2-3h. I'll include pics after. PP red devil is the reel I'll be buying next. And I also have PP interceptor to try out!
 

1HBHfanatic

Legend
Thanks @1HBHfanatic but the only thing I'm really liking so far is the comfort (and that's partly due to the hitec multi). I'm under the impression that PP concept may be a well-balanced string with no particular feature standing out too much but I'm really looking forward to tomorrow when I'll get a chance to play another 2-3h. I'll include pics after. PP red devil is the reel I'll be buying next. And I also have PP interceptor to try out!
-when it comes to cheaper strings, i always suggest to try them first, before you commit to a reel
-several single packs available on the site to try

-anyway, good luck with your test, post your feedback on the strings
(y)(y)
 

lucieisland

Semi-Pro
I think the Concept PP is a bit like the string that goes everywhere with PP. like maybe signum plasma, or yonex poly tour pro. a go to string!

a string which does not have ultra strong points, but which ultimately has quite a few weak points, it is good almost everywhere. some will blame it for a lack of power, or a lack of spin. but it is a very good basis I think.

in 1.25 it may seem a bit mundane, but in 1.22 it becomes really interesting.

a few years ago it was available in 1.38mm, and was a separate product. I don't know if it still exists. positive point: if you do not break too much, it can easily hold 12 hours in FB, and in hybrid it can last up to 16 hours.
 

ChimpChimp

Semi-Pro
The xxxdepot site selling PP strings has a shadow site, namely wdsxxxxx. Webpage design is highly similar so I suspected at once. Company address is identical, so there's no doubt. The same login credentials cannot be used across the two sites. The wdsxxxxx site, unlike xxxdept, does not disclose prices before logging in. Anyone knows why separating two site selling the same things?
 

what_army

Rookie
-when it comes to cheaper strings, i always suggest to try them first, before you commit to a reel
-several single packs available on the site to try

-anyway, good luck with your test, post your feedback on the strings
(y)(y)
Yes but a reel of PP red devil costs 18eur where I live. 2-3 sets cost 8-10eur so it's not a substancial difference.

I think the Concept PP is a bit like the string that goes everywhere with PP. like maybe signum plasma, or yonex poly tour pro. a go to string!

a string which does not have ultra strong points, but which ultimately has quite a few weak points, it is good almost everywhere. some will blame it for a lack of power, or a lack of spin. but it is a very good basis I think.

in 1.25 it may seem a bit mundane, but in 1.22 it becomes really interesting.

a few years ago it was available in 1.38mm, and was a separate product. I don't know if it still exists. positive point: if you do not break too much, it can easily hold 12 hours in FB, and in hybrid it can last up to 16 hours.
My thoughts exactly.
 

lucieisland

Semi-Pro
My thoughts exactly.

and if we consider that this PP string concept, but also works in my opinion with blackout, red devil, balck force, Plus power and a few more ..

which have nothing exceptionally superior, like almost the majority of strings from all brands, but which are pretty much good to see a little more than good, almost everywhere, like so many existing strings, like yonex poly tour pro , silverstring, topspin cyberflash, plasma, and so many brands ...

so, we can no longer refuse to see in PP a brand of alternative twine.

these PP twines, take concept, could be sold 7-8-9-10 € under another brand, that we would find this twine very well ..

therefore, in absolute terms, it remains a good string.
if we consider the price of 25-30 € for 200m, it becomes a very good string. which therefore competes with much more expensive products.

i was quoting yonex poly tour pro. for me, playing in fb YPTP or concept, it's the same .. except for the price! ..
 

ron schaap

Hall of Fame
Yes but a reel of PP red devil costs 18eur where I live. 2-3 sets cost 8-10eur so it's not a substancial difference.


My thoughts exactly.
it must be because the Euro is low with regards to your currency? Otherwise how else the price differences to explain? Its almost so cheap as giving it away.
 

what_army

Rookie
it must be because the Euro is low with regards to your currency? Otherwise how else the price differences to explain? Its almost so cheap as giving it away.
My currency is the euro, on the website below it’s 19eur but I could swear I saw it for 18eur (probably elsewhere). I also bought interceptor for 12eur a few weeks ago on another website.
 

topspinlob

Rookie
tried searching thru the forums already.. I have used Blackout 1.28mm/ OGSM 17 and I really like it...curious about Blackout 1.24mm/ PP Syn Gut 16 as a hybrid. Has anyone used this hybrid?
 

1HBHfanatic

Legend
tried searching thru the forums already.. I have used Blackout 1.28mm/ OGSM 17 and I really like it...curious about Blackout 1.24mm/ PP Syn Gut 16 as a hybrid. Has anyone used this hybrid?
-ive used a lot of the pp strings over the years,
-i like pp synthetics
-when it comes to synthetics, the feel difference is very small/subtle
-i dont recall that exact hybrid, (from my past) but gosen is a bit on the power side of synthetics
-you might feel pp.SG a bit firmer initially
-pp.synthetic.power is a bit softer
 

Taveren

Professional
tried searching thru the forums already.. I have used Blackout 1.28mm/ OGSM 17 and I really like it...curious about Blackout 1.24mm/ PP Syn Gut 16 as a hybrid. Has anyone used this hybrid?
I have tried Blackout 1.24 mains with PP Syn Gut 1.30 Cross and it sucks...... The cross quickly locks up the mains so I tried it the other way around with PP Syn Gut mains and Blackout Cross and it is OK but not great. The Syn Gut does not have the same spin potential as Blackout and I found myself re aligning the mains often so I was not a fan of this setup.
 

ron schaap

Hall of Fame
tried searching thru the forums already.. I have used Blackout 1.28mm/ OGSM 17 and I really like it...curious about Blackout 1.24mm/ PP Syn Gut 16 as a hybrid. Has anyone used this hybrid?
normally you use sharp profiled poly to give extra spinpotential. However using a soft sgut in a hybrid with it the poly cuts into the soft sgut eliminating snapback and thus giving you less spinpotential. A round poly like Blackforce would be better if you used it in the crosses. Or use a hard poly such that Blackout keeps gliding.
 

what_army

Rookie
tried searching thru the forums already.. I have used Blackout 1.28mm/ OGSM 17 and I really like it...curious about Blackout 1.24mm/ PP Syn Gut 16 as a hybrid. Has anyone used this hybrid?
I agree with everything that’s already been said. I would only use SG (or multi) crosses if you want to lock the stringbed, which most people don’t. I’m trying a similar setup but only because my racquets have an open pattern and I don’t need the extra help to hit more spin.
 

topspinlob

Rookie
@what_army @ron schaap @Taveren Thanks for the feedback! what's crazy is I Iike the feeling of how the ball come off the stringbed.. i get a combination of control and spin.. if I need to flatten it out.. the ball feels right coming off the string bed and when I need spin and use the mechanics to create it.. i get the spin I need.. guess i like locked stringbeds?
 
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lucieisland

Semi-Pro
is pros pro blackout still one of the best string for the price? What gauge do you guys prefer on it?
it depends on what you are looking for, what you like ..

some will find that 1.18mm rash will be a better string
others like me, that black force in 1.14mm is an incredible string

my go-to being concept 1.22, or cyberpower 1.20 white.

Plus Power is also a safe bet, in 1.20mm or 1.25. (or 1.24? I don't remember anymore)

i don't like blackout. doesn't mean it's a bad string, just that I can't play with it. (nor with hyper-G for that matter)

a friend of mine love red devil on 1.33? or 1.30? for me it's very difficult to play with a to bigger string!
 
is pros pro blackout still one of the best string for the price? What gauge do you guys prefer on it?
Imho, it is miles ahead of most other PP polys if you are looking for the best blend of spin potential and control potential. However, to get the most out of the string you probably need to have decent swing mechanics ... fast long strokes that really brush up on the bottom half of the tennis ball.

1.24 for max spin potential and higher launch angle of the racquet. (works better in closed string patterns.)
1.28 for longer playability duration, greater control potential and depth potential, and easier to flatten out shots. (Works better in open string patterns.)
 

tennisBIEST

Professional
Thanks LucieIsland, i appreciate you laying it on the table like that.

if i get the stringing machine i still have to spend 30min restringing them.

Pro pro's website is not great for explaining the difference between the strings in terms of durability. has cyberpower, eruption, blackout and concept the same durability if its the same gauge.
Black Out 1.28 has your name written all over it!
 

ron schaap

Hall of Fame
Black Out 1.28 has your name written all over it!
durability is for every player different. Furthermore it depends on string tension, racquet type, weather, court surface.. The most durable should be full bed full kevlar/aramid 1.30 which Pros pro also sells. If its good for bullet proof vests than its good for hitting tennis balls isnt it.
 

2ndServe

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Yes I’ll concede Kevlar is the most durable. Remind me....is Kevlar still used by advanced players these days?
please note pros pro Kevlar is very weak compared to ashaway or pro blend etc ashway Kevlar lasts me months, I’ve broken pro pro Kevlar in about a set the 1.10g but it plays much softer, I do like it but not as durable unless you pair it with a multi
 
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