Pro's Pro Strings!?

Ordered some strings: red devil, black force, gutex, cc+, ultimate fiber, superior gut.
Today I tried a hybrid w gutex in mains, red devil in crosses @25/20 kg on my TFight 315 DC. Played really well, power, touch, spin, it is all there. Next time I'll try some other combos. Any suggestions?
 
fiepfiep said:
Ordered some strings: red devil, black force, gutex, cc+, ultimate fiber, superior gut.
Today I tried a hybrid w gutex in mains, red devil in crosses @25/20 kg on my TFight 315 DC. Played really well, power, touch, spin, it is all there. Next time I'll try some other combos. Any suggestions?
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Just strung blackout mains 46 lbs and pp syn gut 1.30 crosses 49 lbs
Will try that at 3pm
 
ChimpChimp said:
How that? Just bought them among others.
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Possibly having a softer poly in the mains with a syn cross just doesn't give anything great. The mains will notch fast and get stuck on syn cross. Then you lose spin and control. Guess it is probably pretty comfortable but there are better setups to give that
 
tennisintheeighties said:
Played yesterday for the first time with Black Out 1.24, i strung it at 44 lbs due to my elbow, and wow, the string is really soft. No arm pain.
If you play with topspin like me, you should try this string. You feel like Casper Ruud at some moment, no joke

Good control, good feel. At $40 cad the reel, it’s just unreal.

Gonna try at 48lbs. Should be the perfect tension because it’s a low-medium powered string.
It was a bit trampoline effect at this tension yesterday (44), but at 48/50 lbs, I already know it will be great.

Not easy to string ( crosses )
Other than that, would like to reorder another reel.
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The reel should be $25-$27 plus some shipping if you buy from EU.
Most PP poly strings are/should be arm friendly, though I have BO, BF, RD poly only.
 
I used to play BO mains x PP crosses, then tried once BO mains x some unknown crosses and liked it more than PP (my post on this finding). I'm looking for crosses alternatives while keeping BO mains, while other good mains are also welcomed.

I've bought the following and want to try various hybrids. What are some GOOD and BAD hybrids from the following?
  • Black Out 1.24
  • Plus Power 1.18
  • Black Force 1.24
  • Cyber Power 1.25
  • Red Devil 1.24
  • Syn Gut 1.30
 
Simplicius said:
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red devil 1.24 mains & pp s-gut 1.30 crosses was a disaster to me...
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I tried for the first time approximately the same: poly mains (blackout) and syn gut crosses. Result = it's not for me.
I play much better with multi or syngut mains with poly crosses.

My best setup was velocity main and lux element crosses. I play my best tennis with thoses 2 strings.

You have more spin and control with a syngut or multi on mains IMO

Gonna try syngut 130 PP Mains and BO crosses. Already know will be better. Already know the durability would be around 2 hours. ;)
 
tennisintheeighties said:
I tried for the first time approximately the same: poly mains (blackout) and syn gut crosses. Result = it's not for me.
I play much better with multi or syngut mains with poly crosses.

My best setup was velocity main and lux element crosses. I play my best tennis with thoses 2 strings.

You have more spin and control with a syngut or multi on mains IMO

Gonna try syngut 130 PP Mains and BO crosses. Already know will be better. Already know the durability would be around 2 hours. ;)
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Please update as I prefer Syn G/ Poly too.
 
ChimpChimp said:
I used to play BO mains x PP crosses, then tried once BO mains x some unknown crosses and liked it more than PP (my post on this finding). I'm looking for crosses alternatives while keeping BO mains, while other good mains are also welcomed.

I've bought the following and want to try various hybrids. What are some GOOD and BAD hybrids from the following?
  • Black Out 1.24
  • Plus Power 1.18
  • Black Force 1.24
  • Cyber Power 1.25
  • Red Devil 1.24
  • Syn Gut 1.30
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Black Out mains and Red Devil cross works well for me, you just need to dial in your preferred tension to get both good spin and control.
 
I also like Concept 1.22 but only as a cross string, tension maintenance wise I think most PP poly are all similar and not too far off each other. Meaning within average (not good or great) Poly standards
 
Just played one hour.
My advice :
Put the synthetic gut on mains and any other copoly PP on crosses.
Don’t do the contrary.

Just tried with Syn gut main / concept cross
And Syn gut main / blackout crosses

both are great with plenty of spin and control.
I’m an ex 5.0 and i can generate enough spin by myself, but i can say : wow ! You got spin with this setup !
Overall excellent feel. Much better than poly pp main/ syn gut crosses.


Poly are perfect in FB only, in my opinion.
 
tennisintheeighties said:
Just played one hour.
My advice :
Put the synthetic gut on mains and any other copoly PP on crosses.
Don’t do the contrary.

Just tried with Syn gut main / concept cross
And Syn gut main / blackout crosses

both are great with plenty of spin and control.
I’m an ex 5.0 and i can generate enough spin by myself, but i can say : wow ! You got spin with this setup !
Overall excellent feel. Much better than poly pp main/ syn gut crosses.


Poly are perfect in FB only, in my opinion.
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Thanks for that, I have to agree. I also get more depth with Syn G / Poly as I hit flat. What was your tension ?
 
taydbear7 said:
The more I hit with Black Force the more I'm liking it.
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I ordered a red devil 1.24 instead of black force.
will be on my future order.
Currently playing with concept fb 1.22 - 46lbs with excellent results. Soft for the arm.
Really nice control.

A friend of mine 5.0 switched to concept string as well . ( he used alu power for years)
 
tennisintheeighties said:
Just played one hour.
My advice :
Put the synthetic gut on mains and any other copoly PP on crosses.
Don’t do the contrary.

Just tried with Syn gut main / concept cross
And Syn gut main / blackout crosses

both are great with plenty of spin and control.
I’m an ex 5.0 and i can generate enough spin by myself, but i can say : wow ! You got spin with this setup !
Overall excellent feel. Much better than poly pp main/ syn gut crosses.


Poly are perfect in FB only, in my opinion.
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Can you explain what this provides? Isn't the main what creates the actual top spin?
 
So I started using pro's pro strings a few years ago. I used to play a full bed of lethal 5, but of course I decided to try something different with my next reel and went with the strategem 8.

I played with a full bed of strategem 8, but it was very harsh. Last string job, I switched to a hybrid of strategem 8 on the mains with the pros pro gold spiral on the crosses. This felt MUCH better. I finally popped the strings today and found it interesting that the mains were what popped. Historically, every time I've popped the string on a hybrid it's been a cross.

Any ideas on why this happened?
 
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Played one hour with a Blackout FB at 46 lbs.
Please do not look the ridiculous price.
It’s an high level string.
Spin and control are completely crazy.
Thats exacly the kind of string and sensation what i was looking for.
I did my best training this year today and i’m gonna use this for a non official tournament ( start at 4.5 level ) beginning of june.

Highly recommended.
 
My impression of Pro's Pro strings is that they can perform well but don't hold tension very long. Is that the experience of people here?
 
TimePlease said:
My impression of Pro's Pro strings is that they can perform well but don't hold tension very long. Is that the experience of people here?
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i dont understand why that would be worse than the average string brand? If you would use Concept than you would experience better than average tension and durability.
 
ron schaap said:
i dont understand why that would be worse than the average string brand? If you would use Concept than you would experience better than average tension and durability.
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I've been looking at their strings for a while, but there are so many and horrible to compare them or to find the one that would fit you.. Not a very good overview whatsoever, and no real reviews to be found.. And going by the discriptions, each string is the best thing since sliced bread.. :censored:

A shame though, because maybe they're good.
 
There are indeed overly exaggerated reviews in this thread but as with any review YMMV always applies and the responsibility of sorting out the BS with the genuine reviews is with the reader.

As with any string brand there are good and bad ones depending on each individuals preference, if you have followed this thread then you will have noticed consistent praise with Black out, Red Devil, Concept and Eruption so those strings are worth considering as your first Pros Pro strings.
 
s_p_a_c_e_m_a_n_ said:
I've been looking at their strings for a while, but there are so many and horrible to compare them or to find the one that would fit you.. Not a very good overview whatsoever, and no real reviews to be found.. And going by the discriptions, each string is the best thing since sliced bread.. :censored:

A shame though, because maybe they're good.
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Well… there is only one way to find out for yourself.
I think one of the main reasons that people don’t use them is probably due to their “lower” cost….. but hey, if it works for me, it means more money in my pocket. Lol

it is like I may not fancy the beer you like to drink… lol
 
Trying their Blackout 16L for the first time, replacing the Tecnifibre Ice Code on my racquet with the same Tension, oh! boy, not that i've more power and spin but i got more control and more pop too. Ordering the Concept after hitting with the BO :) will try to hybrid my stiffer racquet (the BPA 2019).
 
NTB-MTL said:
Trying their Blackout 16L for the first time, replacing the Tecnifibre Ice Code on my racquet with the same Tension, oh! boy, not that i've more power and spin but i got more control and more pop too. Ordering the Concept after hitting with the BO :) will try to hybrid my stiffer racquet (the BPA 2019).
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probably because the ice code is supposedly not a spin string whereas black out is. but what is the difference between power and pop?
 
ron schaap said:
probably because the ice code is supposedly not a spin string whereas black out is. but what is the difference between power and pop?
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Yes the Ice Code is not a spin string but more of a softer string, still it's too muted for me and lost tension quit fast or it's it characteristic ? it's a supposed to be a very powerful string but somehow i can feel more power with the BO
 
I have used several pros pro strings and as with any string it seems to take a few tries to get the tension that suits both you and your racquet.

Basically all strung in a prince warrior pro 100

Spinox at 25kg was good and lasted ages. Not soft but no arm pain. Could not break this string and cut it out.

Syn gut 1.30 27kg is good but loses tension after about 6 to 8 sets. Breaks after a further 2 sets or so but is past its prime by then. Works nicely in hybrid as main string.

Syn got 1.35 27kg is similar but harder to break. Also loses tension after similar time.

Clay court 1.29 28kg was amazing as full bed for about 4 sets then started losing tension. In hybrid as mains it lasts about 50% longer.

Gutex ultra 1.30 28kg is great as soft multi for arm pain and flatter hitters. I use a lot of top spin at about 4.0/4.5 level so it breaks quickly in full bed.

Intense heat is good at 21kg in full bed as as cross in hybrid at same tension. If strung at 25kg it is very stiff and no power.

Concept 1.22 at 23kg is great. Does everything well and keeps tension. A little stiffer than spinox.

Hexaspin 1.25 at 25kg is nice and gives loads of spin. Broke quickly for me in about 2 sets. Also stiffer string.

Nano vendetta 1.25 is nice and soft at 25kg. Comfortable with some power. Not as much spin as concept and holds tension bit less. Main benefit is more comfort over concept at expense of spin and tension stability.

Super power 1.30 is like a soft syn gut. More power but stretches faster. A slightly more elastic version of normal syn gut.

Those are my thoughts. I still have plus power to try.
 
princemidplus said:
I have used several pros pro strings and as with any string it seems to take a few tries to get the tension that suits both you and your racquet.

Basically all strung in a prince warrior pro 100

Spinox at 25kg was good and lasted ages. Not soft but no arm pain. Could not break this string and cut it out.

Syn gut 1.30 27kg is good but loses tension after about 6 to 8 sets. Breaks after a further 2 sets or so but is past its prime by then. Works nicely in hybrid as main string.

Syn got 1.35 27kg is similar but harder to break. Also loses tension after similar time.

Clay court 1.29 28kg was amazing as full bed for about 4 sets then started losing tension. In hybrid as mains it lasts about 50% longer.

Gutex ultra 1.30 28kg is great as soft multi for arm pain and flatter hitters. I use a lot of top spin at about 4.0/4.5 level so it breaks quickly in full bed.

Intense heat is good at 21kg in full bed as as cross in hybrid at same tension. If strung at 25kg it is very stiff and no power.

Concept 1.22 at 23kg is great. Does everything well and keeps tension. A little stiffer than spinox.

Hexaspin 1.25 at 25kg is nice and gives loads of spin. Broke quickly for me in about 2 sets. Also stiffer string.

Nano vendetta 1.25 is nice and soft at 25kg. Comfortable with some power. Not as much spin as concept and holds tension bit less. Main benefit is more comfort over concept at expense of spin and tension stability.

Super power 1.30 is like a soft syn gut. More power but stretches faster. A slightly more elastic version of normal syn gut.

Those are my thoughts. I still have plus power to try.
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Awesome, nice work :D

Does the Gutex Ultra actually play and feel 'almost' as natural gut? (They claim) And with which one could you hybrid it?
 
s_p_a_c_e_m_a_n_ said:
Awesome, nice work :D

Does the Gutex Ultra actually play and feel 'almost' as natural gut? (They claim) And with which one could you hybrid it?
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I haven't played natural gut myself so I cannot compare. If you hybrid it with a syn gut or multi it tends to stick out of place quickly and loses snap back. I prefer to hybrid with a copoly in the crosses. This helps with snap back and also firms up the bed a bit more giving more control. Currently I'm using intense heat in the crosses at 21 kg
 
TimePlease said:
My impression of Pro's Pro strings is that they can perform well but don't hold tension very long. Is that the experience of people here?
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It depends on the actual string, the tension, the string bed configuation, how hard the player hits the ball, and the player's stroke technique.

For example, BO 1.24 strung with a DT in the mid 30s in a Babolat APD used by a hard hitting heavy topspin player with big serves will perform really well for about 60 minutes and then proceed to fall off a cliff in terms of playability. It is a fantastic string if you have three or four racquets in the bag, and restring after every match.
 
princemidplus said:
I have used several pros pro strings and as with any string it seems to take a few tries to get the tension that suits both you and your racquet.

Basically all strung in a prince warrior pro 100

Spinox at 25kg was good and lasted ages. Not soft but no arm pain. Could not break this string and cut it out.

Syn gut 1.30 27kg is good but loses tension after about 6 to 8 sets. Breaks after a further 2 sets or so but is past its prime by then. Works nicely in hybrid as main string.

Syn got 1.35 27kg is similar but harder to break. Also loses tension after similar time.

Clay court 1.29 28kg was amazing as full bed for about 4 sets then started losing tension. In hybrid as mains it lasts about 50% longer.

Gutex ultra 1.30 28kg is great as soft multi for arm pain and flatter hitters. I use a lot of top spin at about 4.0/4.5 level so it breaks quickly in full bed.

Intense heat is good at 21kg in full bed as as cross in hybrid at same tension. If strung at 25kg it is very stiff and no power.

Concept 1.22 at 23kg is great. Does everything well and keeps tension. A little stiffer than spinox.

Hexaspin 1.25 at 25kg is nice and gives loads of spin. Broke quickly for me in about 2 sets. Also stiffer string.

Nano vendetta 1.25 is nice and soft at 25kg. Comfortable with some power. Not as much spin as concept and holds tension bit less. Main benefit is more comfort over concept at expense of spin and tension stability.

Super power 1.30 is like a soft syn gut. More power but stretches faster. A slightly more elastic version of normal syn gut.

Those are my thoughts. I still have plus power to try.
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Agree 100% about Syn gut and Concept
 
I have tried poly mains and syn gut crosses. It is consistent but nothing special. I would rather get the added control of a full bed poly or the added power and comfort of syn gut mains with poly crosses. I used to play poly mains and syn gut crosses mainly for durability. Now I would rather restring a bit more often and get a better playing setup.

Main benefit of poly mains and syn gut crosses would be for those club players who dont like restringing often and only do it when strings break. This lasts a bit longer than full bed poly as syn git doesn't cut into mains as much and also remains playable a bit more than full bed poly when dead due to benefit of syn gut in crosses.
 
tennisintheeighties said:
Anyone already tried Blackout on mains and concept crosses ?
I like both.
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It plays great, the trick is dialing your preferred tension. I prefer Blackout mains (bites the ball well and low powered) with Red Devil cross (powerful and slippery) this combo gives me really good spin potential. Also Black Eruption mains (power and spin potential) with Concept cross (slippery and more control oriented) works really well for me. My tensions vary depending on the stick, head size and string setup.
 
princemidplus said:
I have tried poly mains and syn gut crosses. It is consistent but nothing special. I would rather get the added control of a full bed poly or the added power and comfort of syn gut mains with poly crosses. I used to play poly mains and syn gut crosses mainly for durability. Now I would rather restring a bit more often and get a better playing setup.

Main benefit of poly mains and syn gut crosses would be for those club players who dont like restringing often and only do it when strings break. This lasts a bit longer than full bed poly as syn git doesn't cut into mains as much and also remains playable a bit more than full bed poly when dead due to benefit of syn gut in crosses.
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Whenever I use PP synthetic gut I always end up with a locked stringbed, even in a hybrid setup wether its in the mains or crosses it notches too fast for me. This is paired with poly btw.
 
Taveren said:
Whenever I use PP synthetic gut I always end up with a locked stringbed, even in a hybrid setup wether its in the mains or crosses it notches too fast for me. This is paired with poly btw.
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I can see that happening with several poly strings especially shaped ones. The PP syn gut does seem to notch fairly quickly. Currently I'm using 1.35 syn gut mains with 1.30 intense heat crosses. The mains are notched about halfway through (expect them to break soon bit they have lasted a few days longer than expected already). Funny thing is that they haven't actually locked up string bed yet. They are still sliding on intense heat crosses although not quite as well as freshly strung.

Gutex ultra notches faster and locks fast too
 
Claycourt Plus is plush, comfortable, has good power and pocketing, Feels similar to NG but not the same of course. I use it in the mains with Red Devil cross BUT.... it breaks too fast, lasts a day or 2 of tennis if Im lucky. I had a friend try out a newly strung racket but has been in my bag for a week and after hitting a few rallies with him the string snapped.
 
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