Pro's Pro Strings!?

Aretium

Hall of Fame
If you want to try a synth gut, BTT has Babolat N.Vy black for $3.99. But you can only get two sets at a time. The black is nicely lively, crisp, and a little dead feeling. And it has a very slick coating. You said any string, so I thought I'd offer it up even though you seem to be looking for a poly.
Are you trolling me? Syn Gut? :mad: hehe
Sorry I should have specified a poly.
 

Muppet

Legend
Yeah I know, I just want to minimize the amount of times.

And 1.25 Vendetta, 1.30 MultiFeel.
I strung Red Devil 1.24 / Multifeel 1.25 @49/53 and it was pretty good. Maybe on the control side.
Multifeel 16 is stiffer and wider, so I'd want to go down 2 lbs.
Vendetta is softer, so I'd want to go up a lb.
But I'd still want to keep a 4 lb. differential.
Try 49/53 or 50/54, depending on how much power/firmness you want.
 

Georgeyboots

New User
how is the feel? can you compare it to another string?
I've not used a lot of strings so difficult to compare sorry but provides a lot of spin can really feel it cutting the ball, less feel than the likes of red devil but very good spin and control, can hit the s*** out of the ball without worrying too much about it flying long
 

Aretium

Hall of Fame
After going through a whole reel, Pro's Pro Nano vendetta is really good. Does everything well, the only bad aspects are durability and touch. Control is super.
 

1HBHfanatic

Legend
I strung Red Devil 1.24 / Multifeel 1.25 @49/53 and it was pretty good. Maybe on the control side.
Multifeel 16 is stiffer and wider, so I'd want to go down 2 lbs.
Vendetta is softer, so I'd want to go up a lb.
But I'd still want to keep a 4 lb. differential.
Try 49/53 or 50/54, depending on how much power/firmness you want.
vendetta is a polystring ive had the most trouble dialing in the tension, i kept goign up and up and up on it, does not seem soft, but it playes with a lot of power
ive had easier time with reddevil, concept, strategem and others
 

1HBHfanatic

Legend
Devil spin 1.26 I find really nice to play with. Gives great spin, tricky to string with though
agreed, and initially like you, very nice to play with, lots of spin, but then it strated to move on me, almost before the first set
and with all that coil memory, i gave up on this string
i might have to try it again but prestertching
 

Georgeyboots

New User
agreed, and initially like you, very nice to play with, lots of spin, but then it strated to move on me, almost before the first set
and with all that coil memory, i gave up on this string
i might have to try it again but prestertching
what tension did you guys tie up devil spin? and what string bed pattern?

cheers
The coil memory is atrocious so I don't blame you giving up! I strung mine on a head youtek speed pro (the original one from about 2010) at around 63 pounds and I think on a 16x19 string pattern but I may be wrong
 

Kalin

Legend
Re: Devil Spin - I see both PP and Toalson have a string thus named; anyone knows if it is the same string? I'm asking since where I live only the Toa is available.
 

Aretium

Hall of Fame
Pro's Pro Concept 1.28mm - The best pro's pro string I have tested so far. Crisp with some pocketing. Fantastic control and touch. Good power for a poly. Not sure about durability but played fine for 3 hours. Serving was fine with it.

I would say this string is similar to Kirschbaum Max Power or Topspin Cyber Flash. It is not as low powered as Max power but not as soft as CF. Really good feedback, crispest string I have tried from Pro's Pro.
 

1HBHfanatic

Legend
Pro's Pro Concept 1.28mm - The best pro's pro string I have tested so far. Crisp with some pocketing. Fantastic control and touch. Good power for a poly. Not sure about durability but played fine for 3 hours. Serving was fine with it.

I would say this string is similar to Kirschbaum Max Power or Topspin Cyber Flash. It is not as low powered as Max power but not as soft as CF. Really good feedback, crispest string I have tried from Pro's Pro.
i like this string initially, im not sure how long it lasts before it starts to loose control
i ll have to try the thicker gauge like you, to see if its just the 18g one that stretches too much too quickly..
 

1HBHfanatic

Legend
got a pack of pp.KUDETA, 17g 1.25mm
strung it up yesterday
stringing straight forward, poly stiff, crisp feel
reminded/similar to pros.pro.spinox, no extra texture
cannot see the bumps, very slight feel of them
normal coil memory; not stretchy
will post after hitting with it
 

Cobra Tennis

Professional
Been playing with a hybrid of Hexaspin twist (?--I think that is what it is called) in the mains with Solinco Syn gut in the crosses at 48lbs. Love it!! Spin is there when I want it and the power from the syn gut gives it a bit more feel. I'm really liking this poly hybrid. It grabs the bell well---lots of fuzz left on the strings after some good hitting. Super cheap!
 

Cobra Tennis

Professional
P.S. Hexaspin Twist looks EXACTLY like Pacific Spin6. I will take a picture when I get home. It's eerily similar. Haven't hit Spin6 to compare just yet, but I will show the two side by side.

On the PP website it even says "This german co-poly"...... hmmmmm
 

Aretium

Hall of Fame
i like this string initially, im not sure how long it lasts before it starts to loose control
i ll have to try the thicker gauge like you, to see if its just the 18g one that stretches too much too quickly..
The 1.28mm concept lasts a lot longer than other pro's pro strings I have used. I can play with it for 3 outings (same as cyber flash).
 
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tennisBIEST

Professional
After a nice stint with my DOS DIABLOS(Devil Spin Mains/Red Devil Cross 52/52lb) setup I have tuck my reel of Devil Spin away. Nothing negative to report on the playability just a nightmare to string up. Gone back to my ol' trusty BlackOut setup. I freaking love this string! Its no surprise so many people here love it! Solid through and through. I practice and feed with the BlackOut in the mains and Forten Nylon in the crosses at 55lb and play full bed in matches at 52lb.
 

gmatheis

Hall of Fame
After a nice stint with my DOS DIABLOS(Devil Spin Mains/Red Devil Cross 52/52lb) setup I have tuck my reel of Devil Spin away. Nothing negative to report on the playability just a nightmare to string up. Gone back to my ol' trusty BlackOut setup. I freaking love this string! Its no surprise so many people here love it! Solid through and through. I practice and feed with the BlackOut in the mains and Forten Nylon in the crosses at 55lb and play full bed in matches at 52lb.
I just got my first reel of Blackout after going through a reel of Red Devil (got another reel of RD also). Strung it at 54 and wasn't sure I liked it at first. I think I was used to the red devil's softness and the Blackout was just a bit firmer.

Every time I used the Blackout it felt better and better. Notches were about halfway through the string and the mains started to not snap back and my elbow started to notice the strings deadness, so I restrung today at 52 and I think I have found my goto string for the foreseeable future.

I also felt that the Blackout played well for much longer than Red Devil which for me played awesome for about an hour and then just average until it broke or I cut it out, but the Blackout played much better up until the mains stopped staying straight.

Not sure how you can beat this stuff at under $3 a set.
 

skraggle

Professional
I just got my first reel of Blackout after going through a reel of Red Devil (got another reel of RD also). Strung it at 54 and wasn't sure I liked it at first. I think I was used to the red devil's softness and the Blackout was just a bit firmer.

Every time I used the Blackout it felt better and better. Notches were about halfway through the string and the mains started to not snap back and my elbow started to notice the strings deadness, so I restrung today at 52 and I think I have found my goto string for the foreseeable future.

I also felt that the Blackout played well for much longer than Red Devil which for me played awesome for about an hour and then just average until it broke or I cut it out, but the Blackout played much better up until the mains stopped staying straight.

Not sure how you can beat this stuff at under $3 a set.
I have arrived at the same conclusion. Although Plus Power is my second favourite PP string (though RD also quite nice), Blackout has an addictive blend of power, spin and control at such an attractive price point. I will probably hybrid with Plus Power crosses on my practice sticks so my current reels don't go to waste, but full bed Blackout will be my matchplay setup.
 

TR3NT

Rookie
Tried PP Black force and found it to be a bit dead then switched and used Blackout a few times now and have found it amazing as a full bed and the price makes it just that bit more sweeter!
 

tennisBIEST

Professional
I have now updated my stringbed to include BlackOut at 54 and placed Discho Iontec Black 1.25 in the crosses at 50lbs. The fullbed of BlackOut at 52 is really solid but I'm looking for a bit more of a knockout punch with the hot and humid conditions here in the *******. So far this combo is feeling very nice and the Discho Iontec has a nice pop and is quite slick which mates well with the BlackOut.
 

Cobaine

Semi-Pro
got a pack of pp.KUDETA, 17g 1.25mm
strung it up yesterday
stringing straight forward, poly stiff, crisp feel
reminded/similar to pros.pro.spinox, no extra texture
cannot see the bumps, very slight feel of them
normal coil memory; not stretchy
will post after hitting with it
So how was it?
 

fgs

Hall of Fame
low powered and soft would be hitec multifibre and hotstuff, the clay court plus is on the stiffer side of things but adding a little bit on durability.
 

Imago

Hall of Fame
When you string them at 30 kg, Hitec is much stiffer than CCP and settles down at 27, i.e., 5 kg higher than CCP.
 

fgs

Hall of Fame
When you string them at 30 kg, Hitec is much stiffer than CCP and settles down at 27, i.e., 5 kg higher than CCP.
at 30kg i would probably break it in 30mins, at 21,5 it breaks as a cross in 2hrs. ccp strung at 20,5 broke in 2,5hrs.
 

Knife

Semi-Pro
low powered and soft would be hitec multifibre and hotstuff, the clay court plus is on the stiffer side of things but adding a little bit on durability.
I bought a reel of Hot Stuff, have not played with it yet, will soon. It is a very soft string, safe to say good for elbow sufferers.
The package says "prestretched" gauge 1,33. When stringing, Hot Stuff looks considerably thinner than 1,33 and it also stretches
like crazy, never seen any other string stretching nearly as much as this one.
 

4-string

Professional
Finally got to play Red Devil 1.14 in my 18x20 6.1 95 today. Strung at 54/51 lbs it played very nice!
 

Muppet

Legend
I have now updated my stringbed to include BlackOut at 54 and placed Discho Iontec Black 1.25 in the crosses at 50lbs. The fullbed of BlackOut at 52 is really solid but I'm looking for a bit more of a knockout punch with the hot and humid conditions here in the *******. So far this combo is feeling very nice and the Discho Iontec has a nice pop and is quite slick which mates well with the BlackOut.
Keep an eye on the width of your hoop with the Iontec Black crosses. They tend to stretch with age.
 

tennisBIEST

Professional
Thanks Muppet! Man I got to admit that Discho Iontec just beats the shiz out of my arm! I love it but Gawd Dang it's just not worth it for me.
 

Easy Rider

Professional
Friend gave me this :

Black out ~ Tecnifibre Black Code, WeissCANNON Black5Edge
Claycourt plus ~ Tecnifibre X-One Biphase, Signum Pro Micronite
Colorline ~ Gosen OG-Sheep Micro JC (Jim Courier)
Concept ~ WeissCANNON Scorpion
Cyber Power ~ Luxilon Big Banger ALU Flouro, Babolat Pro Hurricane
Cyclone ~ Gosen Powermaster
Gutex Ultra ~ Wilson NXT
Hexaspin ~ Solinco Revolution, Signum Pro Plasma HEXtreme
Hexaspin twist ~ Solinco Barb Wire
Hexmulti ~ Dunlop Hexy Fiber
Hitec Multifiber ~ WeissCANNON Explosiv!, Mantis Comfort Synthetic
Ichiban Spin ~ Babolat Pro Hurricane Tour, WeissCANNON TurboTwist
Intense Heat ~ MSV Co.-Focus
Interceptor ~ Yonex Poly Tour Pro
Ku De Ta ~ Luxilon ALU Power Soft
Lethal 5 ~ Solinco Tour Bite
Lethal 8 ~ Luxilon Big Banger ALU Power Rough, Signum Pro Tornado
Nano Cyber Power ~ Luxilon Big Banger ALU Power, WeissCANNON Silverstring
Plus Power ~ Signum Pro Poly Plasma
Poly Spin ~ Kirschbaum Spiky Shark, PolyStar Turbo
Pure Aramid ~ Forten Aramid
Red Devil ~ Tecnifibre Pro Red Code
Spinox ~ Luxilon 4G Rough
Spiral X ~ Prince Lightning XX
Strategem 8 ~ Babolat RPM Blast
Synthetic ~ Gosen OG Sheep Micro
SYnthetic Power ~ Forten Sweet
Top Spin ~ Prince Topspin
Ultimate Fiber ~ Head FXP
 

tennisBIEST

Professional
been given a set of it to try. have to string it and will try it in the next few days, so I can write my impression if interested
Yeah I'm definitely interested. We know that Interceptor is a German made string and Yonex Poly tour pro isn't so I'm going thinking it's a copy of head Lynx. Gonna buy a reel just need to get thru my black out and red devil first.
 

Easy Rider

Professional
Yeah I'm definitely interested. We know that Interceptor is a German made string and Yonex Poly tour pro isn't so I'm going thinking it's a copy of head Lynx. Gonna buy a reel just need to get thru my black out and red devil first.
will try it tomorrow and write down impressions
 

fgs

Hall of Fame
Friend gave me this :

Black out ~ Tecnifibre Black Code, WeissCANNON Black5Edge
Claycourt plus ~ Tecnifibre X-One Biphase, Signum Pro Micronite
Colorline ~ Gosen OG-Sheep Micro JC (Jim Courier)
Concept ~ WeissCANNON Scorpion
Cyber Power ~ Luxilon Big Banger ALU Flouro, Babolat Pro Hurricane
Cyclone ~ Gosen Powermaster
Gutex Ultra ~ Wilson NXT
Hexaspin ~ Solinco Revolution, Signum Pro Plasma HEXtreme
Hexaspin twist ~ Solinco Barb Wire
Hexmulti ~ Dunlop Hexy Fiber
Hitec Multifiber ~ WeissCANNON Explosiv!, Mantis Comfort Synthetic
Ichiban Spin ~ Babolat Pro Hurricane Tour, WeissCANNON TurboTwist
Intense Heat ~ MSV Co.-Focus
Interceptor ~ Yonex Poly Tour Pro
Ku De Ta ~ Luxilon ALU Power Soft
Lethal 5 ~ Solinco Tour Bite
Lethal 8 ~ Luxilon Big Banger ALU Power Rough, Signum Pro Tornado
Nano Cyber Power ~ Luxilon Big Banger ALU Power, WeissCANNON Silverstring
Plus Power ~ Signum Pro Poly Plasma
Poly Spin ~ Kirschbaum Spiky Shark, PolyStar Turbo
Pure Aramid ~ Forten Aramid
Red Devil ~ Tecnifibre Pro Red Code
Spinox ~ Luxilon 4G Rough
Spiral X ~ Prince Lightning XX
Strategem 8 ~ Babolat RPM Blast
Synthetic ~ Gosen OG Sheep Micro
SYnthetic Power ~ Forten Sweet
Top Spin ~ Prince Topspin
Ultimate Fiber ~ Head FXP
some are correct but some are definitely not, for instance:
claycourt plus - tecnifibre x-one biphase
hexaspin twist - solinco barbwire
ichiban spin - babolat pro hurricane tour
intense heat - msv cofocus
lethal 5 - solinco tour bite
lethal 8 - alu power rough

the dynapower syngut is quite close to og sheep micro for instance, not the regular synthetic. there are quite a few i haven't played so can't comment.
 

Easy Rider

Professional
some are correct but some are definitely not, for instance:
claycourt plus - tecnifibre x-one biphase
hexaspin twist - solinco barbwire
ichiban spin - babolat pro hurricane tour
intense heat - msv cofocus
lethal 5 - solinco tour bite
lethal 8 - alu power rough

the dynapower syngut is quite close to og sheep micro for instance, not the regular synthetic. there are quite a few i haven't played so can't comment.

I didn't say it was correct list, I just wrote what a friend gave me, whos in stringing business.
I haven't played with any pros pro string, tomorrows gonna be first time
 

Cobra Tennis

Professional
IMO, Hexaspin Twist is NOT easy. It plays pretty stiff. I will say Black Out is generally the easiest if strung below 50 lbs. Black Out is IMO the best offering from PP. If another string company come out with black out it would get praised left and right.
 
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