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[djNEiGht]

i've also noticed that RD stretches a bit when stringing. Concept not so much

 

[Thomas the Tank Engine]

Here are my initial thoughts on PP vendetta nano 1.25 after 2h in. Overall it’s an ok string, it’s for sure more powerful than Black Force with similar levels of control. Spin is very average with this string. Good feel a touch on the crisp side. With black force I didn’t think the combination of power-spin-control and comfort was rewarding (very comfortable and low powered, but with average control and spin). But this one is much more balanced.
I’ll update.

I just broke PP vendetta nano 1.25 (white). It’s a nice string overall, on the powerful side at the beginning but then loses elasticity and plays more “dead”. Notched a lot in the first 3h and I was sure it was going to break shortly after but then it lost a lot tension and stopped snapping back. I should have cut at this point but I kept trying to break it, which eventually happened at a little under 8h.
Overall it’s an OK string for a few hours that doesn’t really excel at anything and loses its playing characteristics quickly. If I had to rate it (out of 5):
Power: 3
Control: 2
Tension maintenance: 1
Durability: 1.5
Spin: 1.5
Comfort: 3.5

 

[maksp]

i've also noticed that RD stretches a bit when stringing. Concept not so much

Is there a round pp poly in between rd and Concept? Softer n more power then concept but not rd level

 

[Thomas the Tank Engine]

Is there a round pp poly in between rd and Concept? Softer n more power then concept but not rd level

Cyclone power is what you're after. Interceptor is also a touch less powerful than RD. Skip vendetta which is very powerful.

 

[maksp]

Cyclone power is what you're after. Interceptor is also a touch less powerful than RD. Skip vendetta which is very powerful.

Is cyclone power like Firestorm?

Cyclone power is what you're after. Interceptor is also a touch less powerful than RD. Skip vendetta which is very powerful.

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[nadalex]

Cyclone power is what you're after. Interceptor is also a touch less powerful than RD. Skip vendetta which is very powerful.

Interceptor is significantly stiffer than concept

Have you considered dropping a gauge on concept?

 

[Thomas the Tank Engine]

Is cyclone power like Firestorm?

Along the same lines but it's not as powerful as firestorm.

 

[Thomas the Tank Engine]

Interceptor is significantly stiffer than concept

You mean crisp perhaps? I struggle to find any PP strings stiff. I am yet to try cyber power which is supposedly their stiffest string.

 

[nadalex]

Pros Pro Hexaspin is STIFF and exceptionally plasticky...

 

[Thomas the Tank Engine]

I am 4h into PP interceptor 1.25 so I though I'd share my thoughts. Strung initially at 22kg it's a crisp string, not overly powerful and with decent control. I wouldn't say it's a stiff string, at least I can play with it for stretches of 2h without it hurting my arm. If I had to guess I'd say it's comparable to other mid 180s lb/in (TWU) strings. It's notched about 1/3 but it's no longer snapping back so I don't think I'll keep until it breaks, let's see. Its main feature for me is the crisp feel, for people who like that it's an instant must try. Other than that I think it's quite average and doesn't excel at anything in particular. The colour is a very bright yellow, almost green, it's very flashy but I actually like it on my blades V8.

 

[nadalex]

I am 4h into PP interceptor 1.25 so I though I'd share my thoughts. Strung initially at 22kg it's a crisp string, not overly powerful and with decent control. I wouldn't say it's a stiff string, at least I can play with it for stretches of 2h without it hurting my arm. If I had to guess I'd say it's comparable to other mid 180s lb/in (TWU) strings. It's notched about 1/3 but it's no longer snapping back so I don't think I'll keep until it breaks, let's see. Its main feature for me is the crisp feel, for people who like that it's an instant must try. Other than that I think it's quite average and doesn't excel at anything in particular. The colour is a very bright yellow, almost green, it's very flashy but I actually like it on my blades V8.

I think this is a great analysis of Interceptor. Not particularly GREAT at anything, but pretty solid at averything. And I liked the color as well.

I'm a bit biased as I tore my labrum playing with this string in a low-mid 60's RA frame, but I found it to be more stiff than crisp. Just my candid feedback. Definitely not going to spawn tennis elbow, but if I had a case, I'd probably avoid this one.

 

[BallsOfFire]

1.30 s8 is much less spin than WC UC, uc uses sharp edges, while s8 is more so round it generates most spin from SnapBack rather than edges. At rec level uc wins by far, at a higher level you don’t want ultra cable, too much spin, hard to balance spin and pace unless your style extremely flat.

so far my top 2 hybrids that clients like are blackout 1.28/concept 1.28 for power and spin, and eruption 1.30/plus power 1.33 for soft spin setup, mostly for pure drives/ezones/fx500 stiff rackets.

Hi.
Isn't stiff rackets the ones that creates more power compared to softer rackets (control rackets)? and are softer strings not the power strings and the stiff strings the control strings? So I think that pair a power racket (stiff) with power strings (soft) going to make the play too powerfull ( easy landing long).
When I string, I pair stiff strings with stiff rackets to dial down the power, and make a power racket more controlled.

 

[Gojichu]

Hi.
Isn't stiff rackets the ones that creates more power compared to softer rackets (control rackets)? and are softer strings not the power strings and the stiff strings the control strings? So I think that pair a power racket (stiff) with power strings (soft) going to make the play too powerfull ( easy landing long).
When I string, I pair stiff strings with stiff rackets to dial down the power, and make a power racket more controlled.

Soft strings usually means more power yeah, but with pros pro plus power 1.33 I found it to be really soft, but also low powered, so it was a perfect combo for stiff rackets, tames the power as well as makes the racket much more playable by softening it up.

So right now I’ve gotten rid of most of my pros pro strings, I found players that play a lot tend to want premium strings so I stock more of those.

The only 2 reels I have left is blackout 1.28 and concept 1.33. I’m thinking about keeping the concept, since it adds a lot of power and softens the stringbed as a cross string, full bed it’s even more powerful. Blackout 1.28 has great SnapBack, but it doesn’t last long, it’s really soft and will get notched all the way through very fast if you play with a lot of spin 4.5+ . Blackout 1.28/concept 1.33 is a great setup, really nice feel and adds longevity and spin to just pure blackout. But there’s better alternatives to blackout (at a higher cost). I’ve yet to find an alternative for concept 1.33, as in I don’t know what other polyester has more power (excluding scorpion, never tried that)

With general logic, lower gauge concept should be more powerful, but I have 1.28 and 1.33, and 1.33 is clearly more powerful, it really goes against common sense, I’m not too sure why, 1.29 red devil has great power for first 1-3hrs, then loses most of its pop, I’d say 1.29 is a little more powerful than 1.28 concept for first little while, but after 3hrs 1.28 concept will definitely be more powerful than red devil 1.28

 

[BallsOfFire]

Soft strings usually means more power yeah, but with pros pro plus power 1.33 I found it to be really soft, but also low powered, so it was a perfect combo for stiff rackets, tames the power as well as makes the racket much more playable by softening it up.

So right now I’ve gotten rid of most of my pros pro strings, I found players that play a lot tend to want premium strings so I stock more of those.

The only 2 reels I have left is blackout 1.28 and concept 1.33. I’m thinking about keeping the concept, since it adds a lot of power and softens the stringbed as a cross string, full bed it’s even more powerful. Blackout 1.28 has great SnapBack, but it doesn’t last long, it’s really soft and will get notched all the way through very fast if you play with a lot of spin 4.5+ . Blackout 1.28/concept 1.33 is a great setup, really nice feel and adds longevity and spin to just pure blackout. But there’s better alternatives to blackout (at a higher cost). I’ve yet to find an alternative for concept 1.33, as in I don’t know what other polyester has more power (excluding scorpion, never tried that)

With general logic, lower gauge concept should be more powerful, but I have 1.28 and 1.33, and 1.33 is clearly more powerful, it really goes against common sense, I’m not too sure why, 1.29 red devil has great power for first 1-3hrs, then loses most of its pop, I’d say 1.29 is a little more powerful than 1.28 concept for first little while, but after 3hrs 1.28 concept will definitely be more powerful than red devil 1.28

You mean crisp perhaps? I struggle to find any PP strings stiff. I am yet to try cyber power which is supposedly their stiffest string.

Cyber Power should be equivalent to Luxilon Alu Power Soft

 

[BallsOfFire]

Along the same lines but it's not as powerful as firestorm.

So its more stiff or crisp or just less lively?

 

[Thomas the Tank Engine]

So its more stiff or crisp or just less lively?

Cyclone power is not crisp. Probably similar stiffness as firestorm but definitely less lively. I’ll string cyclone power this weekend and share my thoughts, I haven’t played with it in a while.

 

[Sontheim]

what plays similar to blackforce 1.15, I actually like this string better than blackout, red devil, kirschbaum, blackcode

I also like it...in 1,14 ...ghostwire 1,10 maybe....do you guys play ist fullbed or hybrid?

 

[BallsOfFire]

Cyclone power is not crisp. Probably similar stiffness as firestorm but definitely less lively. I’ll string cyclone power this weekend and share my thoughts, I haven’t played with it in a while.

too me lively means string is quick to come back to original state.... and crisp is the opposite as mushy/soft
the same with you?
Firestorm is a great string. If Cyclone Power is close or we are able to dial it in by adding tension..then myabe very nice. maybe chose a thicker cyclone to match the firestorm? (cyclone 1.30 to match firestorm 1.25?)

 

[BallsOfFire]

Cyclone power is not crisp. Probably similar stiffness as firestorm but definitely less lively. I’ll string cyclone power this weekend and share my thoughts, I haven’t played with it in a while.

not so crisp and less lively I guess translates to: More dwelltime/more pocketing... which I guess can be dialed down by higher string tension. no?

 

[BallsOfFire]

I will not try 1.24. I like 1.30 strings.
I strung BO at 25kg.
Slightly better control than Hyper-G, but less comfort and feel...
I really like the way I can hit agressive spin shots without fear!
Hyper-G have too much power sometimes...
BO is also really good at kick serve. Nasty rebound! It's a great string for spin red clay players!
Now I have to see how many hours BO 1.28 can do that good job... Will see in the next days.

After that I will try BO 1.28/BF 1.24.

which is stiffer? BO or BF

 

[Sontheim]

I think i ready Here that BO stiffter....i am also interested how soft BF 1,14 is compared to ghostwire p.e