Pro's shots powerful because of leaded racket?

rilokiley

Professional
combination of racket head speed, physical strength, hand-eye coordination...
Somone help me out here.
 

AngeloDS

Hall of Fame
Pros shots are powerful because they use a lot of upper body rotation, which makes the shot so much more powerful. Racquets have little to do with it a lot of it is from form/technique, physical strength & coordination.
 

superman1

Legend
The combination of better form and more physical strength. A recreational player who is stronger than your average tennis player can't hit as hard because doesn't have the rotation, head speed, timing, the spring in his legs, etc.

Racquets and strings make only a minor difference. I can hit as hard as the pros with my $4 month old strings and no customization, but I can't do it consistently and the ball doesn't always go in.
 

Grigollif1

Semi-Pro
I believe the key to Power is Timing. Pro players are able to time their shots to almost perfection mixing the blend of spin and drive, just enough to keep the ball in the court.
 

Cigo

Rookie
It comes down to telling yourself to hit hard. Take a foam ball and throw it at a wall(chugging it at an open closet with clothing in it is even better). How do you throw it as fast as you can? You just go for it. Sure if you know that transferring your weight from from load position to the front and rotating you will throw it faster you still need to just really want to throw it fast. Exagerating certain motions you want to learn is a very good way to get the feel for them and this is easy to do when you just let go and throw as fast as you can.

In tennis, of cource, you hold on to the racquet and have to hit the ball. So timing and balance play important parts too. But the essence of power is just wanting to hit with power. :D

Not really answering the question exactly, but this seems true to me, it worked for me. Can't say it's either one of the things you mention specificaly that is reponsible for the power mainly on it's own. Physique needs to be 'proper'. Bet Arnold can't hit hard due to his mass. Needs to be the right kind of body. Technique is vital yes, but again is dependant on the body, limited by the physique. And the racquets, which one hurts more a baseball bat or a badminton racquet?

Just my 0.02$. ;)
 

crazylevity

Hall of Fame
Timing is, to me, really important. If I time all my body movements well, all the muscles in the kinetic chain from the legs to the torso rotation etc firing in the correct sequence and hitting the ball right at the end of that kinetic chain, I can smack the felt off a ball. And I'm quite small sized.

The only problem is doing that really consistently.

I'm sure physical conditioning can help, esp with times when ur timing is just slightly off.
 

ask1ed

Semi-Pro
Have you ever been at courtside with a pro match? Most of the time they don't hit hard. Only when they have an opening, or conversely, when they have no choice, do they cream the ball. First serves are creamed. Most of the ground strokes are no longer than one second from racquet to racquet face, the same pace at which I practice.
 

ATXtennisaddict

Hall of Fame
ask1ed said:
Have you ever been at courtside with a pro match? Most of the time they don't hit hard. Only when they have an opening, or conversely, when they have no choice, do they cream the ball. First serves are creamed. Most of the ground strokes are no longer than one second from racquet to racquet face, the same pace at which I practice.
I am dreaming of watching pro matches courtside. Sucks that they don't come here and I have to work as well. :(
 

Chopin

Hall of Fame
ask1ed said:
Have you ever been at courtside with a pro match? Most of the time they don't hit hard. Only when they have an opening, or conversely, when they have no choice, do they cream the ball. First serves are creamed. Most of the ground strokes are no longer than one second from racquet to racquet face, the same pace at which I practice.
Have you been watching the senior women's tour? Of course they hit hard (compared to any of us)...what a silly answer--unless you're a pro there's no way you "practice" at the same pace the average male pro plays at.
 

rilokiley

Professional
Have you ever seen anyone above 5.5 during practice? They'd usually have 15-20 shot rally going on and every single time they hit the fuzz off the ball. Until one of them misses. It's amazing.
 
ATXtennisaddict said:
Discuss. Is the power mainly from their conditioned physiques, technique or mainly from their heavy leaded up frames?
Yes, it is from their heavy leaded up frames. So if you can put 10 times more lead in your racket you might be 10 times more powerful than them.:mrgreen:
 

joe sch

Legend
Its mostly technique !
Todays rackets are made to be customized so most pro's will add 1..3 gm's of lead for thier desired weight & balance.
 

Kaptain Karl

Hall Of Fame
Like joe posted, it's mostly technique.

ask1ed said:
Have you ever been at courtside with a pro match? Most of the time they don't hit hard. ... same pace at which I practice.
Yes. I've been to the US Open at least a dozen times ... for multiple days each time. You're *dreaming* if you think you hit the ball like the Male Pros do.

- KK
 

Court_Jester

Hall of Fame
I agree that it's mostly technique but extra lead tape does help.

I used to doubt the effectiveness of lead tapes but I recently added several layers of tape at the 6 o'clock position to increase the static weight of my racquet and the resulting change in its plowthrough was really dramatic. Even though I didn't change my techniques, I could feel the tennis balls getting crushed with each impact. Even my friend noticed that I hit them harder and with greater pace.
 

superman1

Legend
I've seen Hewitt live recently, he does not hit very hard. He CAN hit hard, and he's super-consistent obviously, but those shots are within reach of any decent player. It's not like if you played with a pro their shots would fly by you, but they would be hitting corners and really pulling you out, and no matter how good your reply, those balls come right back with just as much pace as the last time. It's like a relentless attack. Many people can hit as hard as Hewitt, but he'd still beat the hell out of them on court.
 

joe sch

Legend
Kaptain Karl said:
Like joe posted, it's mostly technique.

Yes. I've been to the US Open at least a dozen times ... for multiple days each time. You're *dreaming* if you think you hit the ball like the Male Pros do.

- KK
KK and others are correct.
The top ATP pro's really crush the groundstrokes, this thread starter must have never been close to top men or even woman, playing ?
Thats why many now refer to todays game as "baseline bashing"
 

tonysk83

Semi-Pro
It really comes from good technique. My friend on the football team who benches 200+ lbs can't hit that hard, but me who can only bench 150 and am not nearly as strong as he is can hit destroy it compared to him. Once again my friend who is pretty small 5' 5" and rarely works out can hit harder then me because his form is so much better.
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
It's not like lead was just discovered - or a method for attaching it to a tennis racket.

It's technique and coaching. There are better conditioned people down at Venice Beach who couldn't hit the ball as hard as a 4.5 - because they don't know how to. And coaches are obviously telling their pupils to 'go for' their shots more. And helping them build the strokes to do it.
 

Mugatu

Rookie
don't forget, the lead-weighted/heavier frames (most) pros use are still very LOW powered racquets compared to common head-heavy imtermediate racquets. it's all about technique and strength. they hit the ball hard and use their whole bodies..
 

heavyraket

New User
e=mc squared
I used to thnk that mass was more important but now I'am coming around to the speed (c) thing. Of course timing is key. The pros arn't using real heavy rakets now. I starting to come down to 12.5 oz 10pts hL 102 core #10, what fun serving!
 
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