'Proud to be a stepping stone for this man' Roddick on losing to Rafa in 2004 Davis cup match

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Rafael Nadal recalls: 'Andy Roddick match marked my early career'

Staying away from the junior tournaments, young Rafael Nadal wanted to join the professional Tour as soon as possible and show his skills. Rafa got a chance to compete and gather experience in 2001 and 2002 and was ready to rumble in 2003. The Spaniard passed 150 rivals on the ATP list that year, winning two Challenger titles from six finals and scoring notable victories at the Masters 1000 and Major level. Rafa was ready to attack higher ranking positions in the following season, reaching the first ATP final in Auckland in the opening week of 2004 and toppling world no. 1 Roger Federer in Miami in straight sets. Still, his progress ceased after an ankle injury in Estoril, staying away from the court until July and needing time to regain form despite the first ATP title in Sopot in August. In September, the youngster was in the Spanish squad against France in the Davis Cup semi-final in Alicante.


Nadal beat Arnaud Clement in straight sets and wished for more in the final in Seville versus the USA. Four years after the first, Spain conquered the second Davis Cup title in front of a partisan crowd of 25,000. Nadal performed on a very high level to oust world no. 2 Andy Roddick in the second rubber. Carlos Moya sent Spain in front with a commanding triumph over Mardy Fish before an 18-year-old Nadal stepped on the court instead of injured Juan Carlos Ferrero. In his fourth Davis Cup singles rubber that year, Nadal prevailed over Roddick 6-7, 6-2, 7-6, 6-2 in just under three hours and 40 minutes, propelling his country 2-0 up after the first day and starting a massive celebration with his teammates. Roddick gave his best to stay in touch with the young opponent, taking the opening set in the tie break and reaching another one at 1-1. Rafa claimed it to open two sets to one advantage and sealed the deal with a strong performance in the fourth.

Rafael Nadal defeated world no. 2 Andy Roddick in the 2004 Davis Cup.

"The match against Roddick in the 2004 Davis Cup final is one of those that marked my career, and I will never forget it. People remember my performance for the freshness and how young I was, but the real architect of the victory was Carlos Moya, who brought us two points. I think I claimed victory because the crowd was there to support me; it was essential. I had some notable matches in every stage of my career, and this is one of them, especially after that injury. I played at a very high level and deserved the triumph after working hard on the practice court. It was a tough year for me, and I'm thrilled with how I performed today. Andy's serves go 230 km/h; I'm happy with how I returned them, particularly in the most critical moments in the tie breaks. After the match, I did not remember Roddick or McEnroe or anything; all I wanted was to celebrate with my teammates. I learned today that I must calm down a little during the match and get less excited. Davis Cup is a completely different competition, which helped me believe I'm a good player. I have left injuries behind me, which brings the confidence back ahead of the new season," Rafael Nadal said.
 
Roddick was the favorite for that match. He was the #2 and Nadal just a 18-year-old teenager that had done little yet.

Nadal had 0 Roland-Garros, or even Masters 1000, or even ATP 500 on clay, in 2004. He wasn't nicknamed "the King of clay" or anything. He was a promising next gen (had defeated Federer in Miami 2004), but that's it.

Surprising what Nadal achieved from such a young age.
 

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That was such a great match. Davis Cup in front of crazy home crowds used to be so great and the excitement and enthusiasm produced some wonderful tennis. Rafa was so young and still undisciplined and he was vamosing all over the place. Very sporting of Andy to give Rafa credit like that. (y)
 
Roddick was the favorite for that match. He was the #2 and Nadal just a 18-year-old teenager that had done little yet.

Nadal had 0 Roland-Garros, or even Masters 1000, or even ATP 500 on clay, in 2004. He wasn't nicknamed "the King of clay" or anything. He was a promising next gen (had defeated Federer in Miami 2004), but that's it.

Surprising what Nadal achieved from such a young age.
In fact Rafa was a sub. I think the Captain picked him over Moya who wasn't best pleased.
 
In fact Rafa was a sub. I think the Captain picked him over Moya who wasn't best pleased.
Moya played the first rubber, and the captain picked Nadal over Moya for the second rubber.
The brilliant decision of the Spanish DC team captain prevented Spain from being disqualified from the 2004 DC final and was instrumental in Spain winning that year’s DC edition.
 
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Rafa was picked over Ferrero [alcaraz coach now] and Robredo who became openly hostile
Moya played his 2 singles and supported Rafa

Rafa's victory was remarkable given the bad vibes toward him in his own team
2004 DAVIS CUP DRAMA: NADAL REPLACES FERRERO

I don't think Ferrero has got over it yet. In 2008 when he beat Rafa in Rome he got cross that everyone acknowledged that Rafa was suffering with blisters on his feet.
 
Moya played the first rubber, and the captain picked Nadal over Moya for the second rubber.
The brilliant decision of the Spanish DC team prevented Spain from being disqualified from the 2004 DC final and was instrumental in Spain winning that year’s DC edition.
What are you talking about???? You're making no sense at all. And as JustMy2Cents said above, Rafa was picked to play in place of Ferrero who was injured. Moya was always a staunch supporter and mentor to Rafa and was never upset with him .
 
I don't think Ferrero has got over it yet. In 2008 when he beat Rafa in Rome he got cross that everyone acknowledged that Rafa was suffering with blisters on his feet.
Heh. I don't think so either. He's always very quick to deny any comparison between Alcaraz and Rafa. Never comes right out and says anything negative about Rafa but avoids saying anything positive too. ;)
 
I don't think Ferrero has got over it yet. In 2008 when he beat Rafa in Rome he got cross that everyone acknowledged that Rafa was suffering with blisters on his feet.
I agree. Ferrero accepted to train Alcaraz with the only objective to produce a Spanish player who can be remembered that was better than Rafa.
 
What are you talking about???? You're making no sense at all. And as JustMy2Cents said above, Rafa was picked to play in place of Ferrero who was injured. Moya was always a staunch supporter and mentor to Rafa and was never upset with him .
You make too much sense.
 
First Nadal match I watched live, how time flies :cry:

For the record:
- Ferrero wasn't injured, but his form was suspect.
- Roddick was #2, had recently been ousted from #1 by Fed.
- Roddick had badly owned Rafa in the US Open that same year.
After reaching ATP #1 ranking in 2003 for 8 weeks, Ferrero had a poor 2004, in which he had injuries and an accident while training. Towards the end of 2004 (the 2004 DC final was played in early December) his ATP ranking had fallen to #30.
 
After reaching ATP #1 ranking in 2003 for 8 weeks, Ferrero had a poor 2004, in which he had injuries and an accident while training. Towards the end of 2004 (the 2004 DC final was played in early December) his ATP ranking had fallen to #30.
On another note, after being a top ATP player between 2001 and 2003, Ferrero could not maintain his early success for the rest of his career. Since October 2004, he could never come back to the top 10 of the ATP. Most of the time he was ranked between the 20 and 50 positions.
 
Roddick was the favorite for that match. He was the #2 and Nadal just a 18-year-old teenager that had done little yet.

Nadal had 0 Roland-Garros, or even Masters 1000, or even ATP 500 on clay, in 2004. He wasn't nicknamed "the King of clay" or anything. He was a promising next gen (had defeated Federer in Miami 2004), but that's it.

Surprising what Nadal achieved from such a young age.
Nadal, at 18 years and six months of age, became the youngest player to register a victory in a Davis Cup final for a winning nation.
:cool:
 
Nadal took Ferrero's place at the forefront of Spanish tennis at a time when JCF was struggling with injury and form. It's only natural that he's not a fan hahaha

However I would not read too much into that.

Curiously, JCF was a Courier fan (rather than, say, Bruguera)
 
Moya played the first rubber, and the captain picked Nadal over Moya for the second rubber.
The brilliant decision of the Spanish DC team prevented Spain from being disqualified from the 2004 DC final and was instrumental in Spain winning that year’s DC edition.
Moya played both singles matches and beat both Roddick and Fish in straight sets....
 
I don't think Ferrero has got over it yet. In 2008 when he beat Rafa in Rome he got cross that everyone acknowledged that Rafa was suffering with blisters on his feet.
even in 2008 Rafa couldn't give credit to opponent for the loss and blamed it on injury?
 
Nadal took Ferrero's place at the forefront of Spanish tennis at a time when JCF was struggling with injury and form. It's only natural that he's not a fan hahaha

However I would not read too much into that.

Curiously, JCF was a Courier fan (rather than, say, Bruguera)
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:cry: if only roddick had made a better use of his set point in the 3rd instead of deciding to become a mudstone, that might have nipped the topspin plague ni the bud and saved tennis for a couple of decades...

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Rafa was picked over Ferrero [alcaraz coach now] and Robredo who became openly hostile
Moya played his 2 singles and supported Rafa

Rafa's victory was remarkable given the bad vibes toward him in his own team
2004 DAVIS CUP DRAMA: NADAL REPLACES FERRERO

Wasn't Rafa's autobiography written in the first person? The article claims to be an excerpt from his autobiography but proceeds to mention Rafa in third person.
 
No, it was written with journalist John Carlin.

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Isn't Rafa cheating the readers giving his autobiography to others to write it? Or isn't the real cause that Rafa is not willing to take full responsibility for the things written in the book, so Carlin had to write it in third person?
This does not look good, I am very worried for Rafa's legacy, and me as a reader, demand not being cheated by autobiographies not written in first person, whenever possible.
 
I think Ferrero sees Alcaraz as his revenge against Rafa, but Alcaraz has a long way to go.
Ferrero's only pursuit in life from now onwards is to take revenge on Rafa for that. He has given Alcaraz 3 years to produce signs he can do the job.
If Alcaraz does not meet the expectations, he will start to mentor another young prospect who can beat Rafa in the RG final of 2030.
 
Isn't Rafa cheating the readers giving his autobiography to others to write it? Or isn't the real cause that Rafa is not willing to take full responsibility for the things written in the book, so Carlin had to write it in third person?
This does not look good, I am very worried for Rafa's legacy, and me as a reader, demand not being cheated by autobiographies not written in first person, whenever possible.
No.
 
Isn't Rafa cheating the readers giving his autobiography to others to write it? Or isn't the real cause that Rafa is not willing to take full responsibility for the things written in the book, so Carlin had to write it in third person?
This does not look good, I am very worried for Rafa's legacy, and me as a reader, demand not being cheated by autobiographies not written in first person, whenever possible.
You can buy the one he's done in Spanish.
 
You can buy the one he's done in Spanish.
Thanks for the advise, I will read the Spanish version.
According to the Wiki article you kindly posted, Carlin should be fluent in Spanish because of his personal and professional experiences. I want to believe that during the interviews, Rafa spoke to Carlin in first person in Spanish, but Carlin was not paying enough attention and translated all what Rafa said to English using a wrong person mode, making a grammarly mess of wide proportions.
Finally, if the Spanish version is in first person, I will trust Rafa again, and I will apologize for my misunderstanding and for wrongly accusing him of cheating the readers.
 
Thanks for the advise, I will read the Spanish version.
According to the Wiki article you kindly posted, Carlin should be fluent in Spanish because of his personal and professional experiences. I want to believe that during the interviews, Rafa spoke to Carlin in first person in Spanish, but Carlin was not paying enough attention and translated all what Rafa said to English using a wrong person mode, making a grammarly mess of wide proportions.
Finally, if the Spanish version is in first person, I will trust Rafa again, and I will apologize for my misunderstanding and for wrongly accusing him of cheating the readers.
It's an authorised biography.
 
Thanks for the advise, I will read the Spanish version.
According to the Wiki article you kindly posted, Carlin should be fluent in Spanish because of his personal and professional experiences. I want to believe that during the interviews, Rafa spoke to Carlin in first person in Spanish, but Carlin was not paying enough attention and translated all what Rafa said to English using a wrong person mode, making a grammarly mess of wide proportions.
Finally, if the Spanish version is in first person, I will trust Rafa again, and I will apologize for my misunderstanding and for wrongly accusing him of cheating the readers.
If it's written in the 3rd person it should have been called an authorised biography not an autobiography..
you can borrow and read the book online for FREE from this source
just create an account with an email. there are 1000s of other books as well.

as you can see, some chapters are in 1st person. some have narratives.
quite a nice read,

since you are talking of alcaraz, he was reading this book at AO last year. @octobrina10 may be able to pull up that tweet
 
Thanks for the advise, I will read the Spanish version.
According to the Wiki article you kindly posted, Carlin should be fluent in Spanish ...

John Carlin is fluent in Spanish, he has Spanish mother and Scottish father. Carlin was a writer for the Spanish newspaper El Pais, when he wrote Rafa's autobiography in conjunction with the latter. Wikipedia says that Carlin writes regularly for Argentine newspaper Clarin:
 
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