PS Tour 90 with Ncode cosmetics paintjob.

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dennis1188

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Now , this is crazy, I'm holding a ( new unstrung) PS Tour 90, with a ncode paintjob (red/white). I held it together w/ a PS tour 90 and this is a EXACT match/mold w/ the PS tour 90 only w/ the paint job (red/white ncode). With eyes close this is a exact match w/ the PS tour 90. This is a new racket w/ all the original tags, a wilson factory item, The paintjob is a Ultra light wt (asia) 4 3/8 grip , w/ wilson leather. Made in China.

It is not a PS original 85in or 95in.
I'm thinking this is only interesting to collectors. I'm serious , this is not a joke, nor am i trying to make trouble here.
I thought this would be of interest and a valid message after reading 3333 views from the previous posting when TW sold the PS 6.0 w/ tour 90 paintjob, but cost is same as a new 'real' encode racket.
BTW, Ray Wong, what do you think?
 
hehe cute post :)

I know a shop that always tells me that their ncode six-one tours are tour 90 paintjobs, actually ;)

-Chanchai
 
But I hv only one day to decide before my next flight.
So....i'll charge it and think about what to do w/ it later when i get it back home.
 
If it has an nCode 6.1 paintjob, how do you know it is a real PS Tour 90? The two racquets are pretty much the same visually anyway, just with different paintjobs. The differences between the two racquets are the internal composition, weight, balance, etc. which can only be felt and not seen.
 
That's part of the point of this post ;) The presumption that they're the same anyways...

The other part of the point is in him reposting it in the PS 6.0 85 paintjob (Tour 90 cosmetics) thread.

In case you weren't being sarcastic ;)

-Chanchai

PS I would agree with you that the two racquets play differently. Though many do believe they are the same racquet.
 
Ok I'll say this one final time.
I'm (in my own hands) comparing w/a new as sold on TW and pro shops ncode 90 (the real ncode is a thicker beam and different swing wt.), a new sold in pro shops PS Tour 90. If you hold both ncode 90 and and a tour 90 together, of course there is a difference. Quite a few posters have both rackets and it is not difficult to tell with a close inspection. The 'paintjob' ncode is EXACT mold /feel as the black PS tour 90 . I of course lookedup the old TW thread to make sure that they were talking about and was not the same as a tour 90 with the ncode paintjob.
I've decided to just pick this up and figure out the rest when I get back frm this trip (maybe w/**** later). Sorry I was just looking for some input that was not so skeptical (after reading the TW posting frm their paint job PS 6.0 85in, and now a tour 90 ncode paintjob these greymarket items do exist) . It seems no one else here has actually seen this racket with the ncode red/white paint scheme. I fully beliveve that the composition etc is the same as any new wilson tour 90 (asian model ultra lt wt).
IMO & In conclusion it is a PS tour 90 w/ncode paintjob and limited collector's item.
 
I am now thoroughly confused. How do you know what you have in your hands is a Tour 90 with a nCode 6.1 paintjob and NOT just a regular old nCode 6.1? As you said, you can put them back to back and they will look the same. That's true of ALL regular nCode 6.1 Tours and ALL Tour 90s.

We know the PS 6.0 85 with the Tour 90 paintjob is a real PS 6.0 85 because the headsize is smaller (among other obvious differences). These visual differences really do not exist between the Tour 90 and the nCode 6.1 Tour.
 
No, three rackets are side to side. ( real ncode, paintjob nocode, real ps tour 90). A new ncode is not the same mold as the tour 90, that the point, and I immediately noticed the difference on the pro shop displaying a large selection of new wilson ncode rackets.
the paintjob ncode is same mold as the ps tour 90. Next time you go to a pro shop you can see.
 
And we're acknowledging that there are two nCode Six-One racquets (per market, I think), right? For now anyways, because I think a newer one came out. That is... you have the nCode Six-One Tour (90 sq. in. head) which whenever I've checked it looks so much like a Tour 90 aside from the paint.

And then you have the nCode Six-One 95 sq. in. (I find more of these on store shelves than the tour) which looks a lot like... well... the Pro Staff Tour 95 (though I think this racquet is supposed to also be a replacement for the HPS 6.1).

There's also a new nCode Pro Staff coming out.

Not to mention the asian variations of the Tour 90 and maybe even the nCode models.

Confusion is bound to happen. Sorry if I didn't take you seriously enough, lots of sarcasm on these boards (not that I could blame anyone for being sarcastic at times).

-Chanchai
 
Yes , your right , it says ncode 6in1 TOUR (90sqin), it just came out here in asia last few days .The thing looks exactly from a PS tour 90 mold when u hold them together.
So it is just yet another ncode 6n1 asia ultra super lt wt. model.
I'm glad I didn't buy it.
Thanks for the other info. I'm signing off on this disscusion thread now.
 
Chanchai,
What is this "nCode Pro Staff" that you mention is coming out? Do you have any specs on it? Is it a PS 6.0 90 with nCode paint? Thanks.
 
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/catpage.html?cref=495

The new nCode is an 18x20 string pattern version of the Wilson nCode Six-One 95. Much different compared to the standard Six-One (95) with its 16x18 string pattern.

FYI, the Pro Staff Tour 95 had a 16x19 string pattern (like the Tour 90) while the HPS 6.1 had a 16x18 string pattern (same as already available Six-One). The HPS 6.1 stretch had an 18x20 string pattern though. I don't know what the specs of the Hyper Pro Staff 6.0 (Europe) was. And lets not forget whatever comes out in Japan (Asian market seems to have the "Japan" market label, but who knows, maybe a China division will open up).

A reminder on the new nCode PS, it has a 95 sq. in. head. Also, it's strung weight is supposedly 12.3 oz (349 grams -- probably a better measure hehe), and it's standard length. Oddly enough, the 18x20 string pattern seems appealing to me. I wasn't really a Hyper Pro Staff 6.1 man myself. But I have enough racquets now... Good thing demo programs exist....

-Chanchai
 
Chanchai said:
The new nCode is an 18x20 string pattern version of the Wilson nCode Six-One 95.
Click to expand...

That's the "nSix-One 95 Team". I was confused because you called it a "nCode Pro Staff". Notice that the nCode racquets are NOT called Pro Staffs at all?

To me, the nSix-One 95, nSix-One 95 Team, HPS 6.1, PSC 6.1 are all of the same lineage and from the same family of racquets which are, to me, very, very different from the nSix-One Tour, PS Tour 90, HPS 6.0 95 Tour, PS 6.0 85/95, which are from a different lineage and family of racquets. I usually don't even talk about them in the same breath as the other. They are just different animals in my mind. They have such different characteristics and feel that IMHO, if you like the feel of a racquet from one family, you won't like the feel of a racquet from the other family.

Anyway, since this thread was about the nSix-One Tour and the Tour 90, I wasn't really thinking about the nSix-One 95 Team at all. Thanks for the clarification. :D
 
Breakpoint, thank you for the clarifications :)

Much appreciated.

Much better to hear it from, what I think is, a Wilson person (real Wilson fan). I'm not really a Wilson person so to speak aside from playing with a PS 6.0 85 and Tour 90 semi-regularly and demoing various Wilson racquets.

So the Six-One is more like the Tour 90 than the HPS racquets? Or does it fall more into the family of the Tour 95 then? Though initially I thought the Six-One 95 was supposed to replace the Tour 95, I later was convinced it was really meant to replace the HPS 6.1. Whether it does it well or not is another story, but I was curioius about that. But the HPS 6.1 wasn't really my kinda racquet to begin with--liked it, just didn't love it. But I'll admit to my odd tastes ;)

About "nCode Pro Staff" sorry for throwing Pro Staff in their so freely. Just that... better to say they were supposedly geared towards PS and HPS and Tour families... because they weren't aimed at the Hammer or Triad families?

-Chanchai
 
Maybe, wilson adds nano tech to the paint of ncode 90, instead of it's frame. That's why ncode 90 paint job is superb.
 
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