PT57 Replicas

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  1. Imago

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    Which are the rackets that try to replicate the playing characteristics of PT57 - or are prototypes of it. A replica is not necessarily a copy...

    Today contemplated ProKennex Q Tour 2013 and ProKennex Ki Q+ Tour Pro and couldn't help noticing the striking facsimile

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  2. TennisD

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    Wilson. Ultra. Tour.
     
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  3. elkabras

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    Blade 98


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    Gamma tour 320x has a very similar mold but they were true 98s.
    Also were true 20mm beams, not 21-22 Like wilsons.
    And they are 16x19 for everyone that is crying out for that


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  5. Imago

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    Adding another suspect - Mantis Pro 310 II

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    No.
     
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  7. Roland G

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    Why no?
     
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    An obvious example is Tecnifibre 315 Ltd.
     
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    Obviously different beam, string pattern/spacing, etc.
     
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  10. El_Yotamo

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    Dunlop Srixon Revo CX 2.0 Tour, Angell TC97, also the PK Redondo MP is rather similar

    Plus some of those that have been mentioned already for sure.
     
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  11. elkabras

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    Dunlop 200-300 mold ??


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    Tec Ltd range and srixon tour are two that spring to mind. I also used to use a pro super frame that had many of the same characteristics... Can't remember the name of it but was the early 2000's
     
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  13. elkabras

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    One of the best replica, great platform for customization too

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    Do they try to play the same as pt57A or is it just the same shape/mold ?
     
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    If I would go by mold alone I definitely dig thr Dunlop mold more being more oval.


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    Well thank god I’ve got two on my way :D

    Any tips customisation-wise?
     
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    I got one of these off of you-know-where for next to nothing. How should I be adapting it to be more PT57ish??
     
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  18. elkabras

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    Notice the wide lead tape on the top and the leather grip, for me this way the racquet is very very good, but now I play with the Candycane, my forehand technique needs a little big swetspot zone than the Dunlop offer....but the bio 300 tour is a great racquet that is in my closet


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  19. Rabbit

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    Paging @vsbabolat - he is the SME all things PT57 and all things Head
     
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    Flex rating must be under 60, imho.
     
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    I gotta get one of those soon
     
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  22. Roland G

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    I played a doubles match tonight with mine. It's got 5g at 10/2 and 4g at the butt. Strung with PLII 1.15 and it's sweet frame. Not super-powerful but great feel and control.
     
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    Best replica so far from what I have tested. Hell, it's better even than some original prestiges. Tuned up with new Head leather grip, wider pallets and Head butt-cap, VS Babolat 17g and KB Max Power 1.25 at 23/22 kg proportionally strung.

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  24. BorgCash

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    Crane racquet? Never heard about it.
     
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    Another vote for Wilson Ultra Tour.
     
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  26. Imago

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    Me too. Crane Pro Power 09. 97 inch. Surprised by their quality and traditional prestige feel. 345 g strung with leather G, OG and AV. 315 balance. 52-55 RA.

    Used to be sold in the German supermarket chain Aldi. Heard today that, in Sofia, they will take over the stores of Kaufland.
     
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  27. BorgCash

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    How much it? German company?
     
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    Exactly. There are some rackets with similar molds, string pattern, weight and even SW, but the feel hasn't been duplicated since. The cost of using that much HM graphite and Twaron licensing are costs few manufacturers want to incur for a consumer racket.

    I'd say the primary characteristic that no manufacturer has been able to reproduce or just doesn't want to, which includes Head, is the flexibility. That would be Head for it's consumer line. They're of course still making the PT57A for their pros.
     
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    Yes, Aldi is a German company with growing worldwide presence. Only in USA, they run 2000 stores from coast to coast. https://www.aldi.com/

    The racket seems to be decommissioned - last one I saw was Pro Power 10. You can find one only on the secondary market, I bought mine for $25.

    I didn't have the chance to test a pro stock PT57, but I like this Crane better than TC97 18M and Ultra Tour

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    Thank you. It's interesting to hear these news now. Pity that's it discontinued, it will be hard to get it now. Do you know what company manufactured this model? Probably Crane is only pj?
     
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    Wauu if they make a racquet for 25$ and still both having profit(Aldi and manufacturers) and know just imagine how much big companies like Wilson and.... making profit 1000% on one racquet
     
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  32. BorgCash

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    As i understand their top model was about $50, or am i wrong?
     
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    The cost of manufacture tennis racquet is about $$10-15. The next is marketing.
     
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    Almost the same as it seems Art of War was 24 euro until recently. Crane is probably a better quality - but the manufacturer might be one and the same. I think Crane is a trademark of Aldi in the same way Artengo is of Sportdepot. Somewhere in China it may still be manufactured and sold under who knows what name...
     
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    Thats why I laugh of all the new kids in my club with his brand new countervail who tells me crazy retro with my old PT57s


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    Redondo MP.
     
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    Very interesting. All Aldis I have been to here in US just carried grocery items. Also not very big like Walmart or Target. Did they ever carry these racquets in stores in US? Trying to figure out Aldi caters to US market differently by only offering food items etc. The racquet looks sharp!
     
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    Imago: Interesting stringjob you got there. What does that accomplish by skipping the last two mains with gut? Wouldn't it feel weird with the poly's losing tension a lot faster and also put more stress on the frame?
     
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    One set of this Babolat Maillot Witt VS Gut is 10.20 m. I have to use it for 2 rackets if M. :) Outside mains are 18 and 16 kg strung as I string proportionally. Frankly, I don't know who is to blame for the exquisite feeling - the frame or the hybrid proportional stringing.

    Meanwile found a second 09 - the same as the above, and a very interesting iteration of the same layout - with Twaron (Kevlar) instead of Titanium.

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    Ohh, you finally get that Crane 09?
    Congrats for the new purchase!
    The racquet's quality looks fine on these picts!
    And it's a beauty too!

    Now are you hunting another 09?
    Ohh man, leave some Cranes for us pls...
    hahahaha


    These are mine PT57 18x20 replicas:

    1. Head Ti.Rad MP
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    2. Pro's Pro Art of War
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    3. PK Type C98 Redondo
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    with order of preference!

    I have PK Type C98 Redondo for sale now, but maybe I must give it a 2nd chance with a very loose stringjob at 40lbs.
    I did the same for Ti.Rad, gets a fantastic feel and then a decide to keep it!
     
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  42. Imago

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    There are only 5 in Europe - 2 left for you. ;)

    I have to put my new home made leather grip to Ti.Rad to make it absolutely likable. :)
     
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    We may organize a trophy exhibit and degustation at some public court in Asprovalta. ;)
     
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  44. badmice2

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    are we talking rackets your can buy today? or any rackets ever made?

    From today's selection, TF 315 LTD and Wilson Ultra Tour gets my vote.

    From yester-years, add Dunlop 200G Muscle Weave to the list.
     
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    Are you meaning this...I’ve got it too heheheh



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    Hahaha! This will be great!
    But we have to move it in Platamon Pieria, if we want to share the distance!
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    PS: After the previous summer vacations I was sworn to myself to go only in South Greece for holidays the next decade...
    North Greece beaches are too crowed for a my taste... I'm a poor family guy at 50's who all I want is rest ( and tennis of course! ) ...
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  47. Imago

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    I am open to suggestions. Anywhere with all inclusive - by all I mean courts also. Usually we travel in April down to Kusadasi or Antalya - there are hundreds of courts in Belek and Manavgat.
     
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    Yes, all inclusive this year for me too.
    April is a full time job month for me....
    I'm thinking July, maybe in Peloponisos.

    We turn this thread into a travel guide here... Hahaha
    I let you know with PM when I organise next summer vacs!
     
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  49. cdik

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    What about Dunlop Bio200? It looks close, if not the same, to PT630 on paper. Could anyone make a comparison between Bio200 - TF315 ltd (18m) - PT630?
     
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  50. TennisHound

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    Are there any PT57s that don’t look exactly like Prestiges?;)
     
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