PTPA is going to hurt Novak BIG TIME

[40-15 still haunts me]

Novak has once again renewed his PTPA battle with the ATP with the ATP declaring “they will do anything and everything in their power to stop Novak from further developing the PTPA where he believes he can just do whatever he wants to do”
The “ Professional Tennis Players Association” founded by Vasek Pospisl and Novak Djokovic who both serve as presidents in the PTPA serves as a sort of players council and is not intended to replace the ATP. Djokovic and Pospisl claim that so many players want to join that it would be foolish for the ATP to deny talks with them, with the ATP saying that Novak has fragmented tennis and instead of creating unity has caused chaos and ” complete division”
With the ATP controlling most of what the men’s game is today, I have a feeling Novak could be fined heavily/ disciplined and be potentially denied access to certain tournaments including majors. Imagine Novak going to the US Open for the CYGS and getting sanctioned and refused acess to play by the ATP

Novak Djokovic and ATP at odds as he launches players’ association

Novak Djokovic is at odds with the ATP after he and his colleagues finally revealed a formal structure for the PTPA, the players’ association founded by him and fellow player Vasek Pospisil

www.theguardian.com

Political unrest as ATP speaks out against ‘divisive’ Novak Djokovic-led players’ union

On the eve of the genteel tournament that is Wimbledon, political goings-on behind the scenes in tennis are not so tranquil. Twenty-four hours after the Profess

www.thetimes.co.uk

 

[merwy]

The ATP is scared it will lose its monopoly on tennis? Boohoo can’t keep underpaying hard working players. What a shame

 

[40-15 still haunts me]

The ATP is scared it will lose its monopoly on tennis? Boohoo can’t keep underpaying hard working players. What a shame

The ATP do have majority control so Novak doesn’t have much of a say unless all players just refuse to play or something , essentially a strike lol

 

[maratha_warrior]

If ATP stops Novak from playing slams , Novak's legacy will grow exponentially .

Everyone knows he is gunning for Slam record now , and he is very close to end it as Slam record holder ( along with Rafa ) .

So , people will spit on ATP and Granslam race because they stopped potential Slam-record holder Djokovic from playing Slams.
ATP bosses and their Foot-soldiers will look like Cowards haha

This is why I don't think they will ban him at slams . They might impose heavy fines maybe .

I hope they don't fall as low as hiring someone to physically hurt Djokovic as , someone did with Monice seles to stop her from becoming GOAT . That is cowardice . Eww

 

[UnforcedTerror]

More power to the guy but I don't understand the timing. Couldn't he at least wait until the US Open is over..

He should concentrate on tennis for the time being.

 

[40-15 still haunts me]

More power to the guy but I don't understand the timing. Couldn't he at least wait until the US Open is over..

He should concentrate on tennis for the time being.

It’s a good point as he said that things like this in the past have affected him on the court as well as off it

 

[Hitman]

If ATP stops Novak from playing slams , Novak's legacy will grow exponentially .

Everyone knows he is gunning for Slam record now , and he is very close to end it as Slam record holder ( along with Rafa ) .

So , people will spit on ATP and Granslam race because they stopped potential Slam-record holder Djokovic from playing Slams.
ATP bosses and their Foot-soldiers will look like Cowards haha

This is why I don't think they will ban him at slams . They might impose heavy fines maybe .

I hope they don't fall as low as hiring someone to physically hurt Djokovic as , someone did with Monice seles to stop her from becoming GOAT . That is cowardice . Eww

ATP cannot stop Novak from playing slams.

The slams are run by the ITF not the ATP.

And as far as ending the slam race as the holder along with Rafa - No, he is planning on leaving Rafa behind with Fed. Don't think for a second he wants to leave this sport tied on that record, he wants to break it all and be the outright holder, as you saw how he went for RG this year.

 

[40-15 still haunts me]

ATP cannot stop Novak from playing slams.

The slams are run by the ITF not the ATP.

And as far as ending the slam race as the holder along with Rafa - No, he is planning on leaving Rafa behind with Fed. Don't think for a second he wants to leave this sport tied on that record, he wants to break it all and be the outright holder, as you saw how he went for RG this year.

The ATP actually have control over the slams, not the ITF

The three governing bodies are

1. ITF — Formed in 1913, this body is responsible for
   
   1.1. The rules of the sport, the specifications, the technicalities
   1.2. The lower-level circuits
   1.3. The Wheelchair and Beach tennis versions
   1.4. Organizing the Davis Cup, Fed Cup, Hopman Cup, and Olympics.
   1.5. Handling the Tennis Anti-Doping Programme
2. ATP — Formed in 1972, this body is responsible for
   
   2.1. Organizing the ATP World Tour, which is the top-level circuit
   2.2. Grand Slams, The Masters, the WTF, the 500s, the 250s, the Challengers.
   2.3. The Rankings
   2.4. Collaboration with ITF on rules, specifications, drug-testing, etc.
3. Women’s Tennis Association (WTA)— Formed in 1973, this body is the female equivalent to the ATP and roughly has the same functions as the ATP.

The ATP has wrestled most control away from the ITF now and controls most of men’s tennis.

 

[daphne]

A Fed fan carrying for Djok LOL

 

[maratha_warrior]

ATP cannot stop Novak from playing slams.

The slams are run by the ITF not the ATP.

And as far as ending the slam race as the holder along with Rafa - No, he is planning on leaving Rafa behind with Fed. Don't think for a second he wants to leave this sport tied on that record, he wants to break it all and be the outright holder, as you saw how he went for RG this year.

But , noone should take Rafa lightly .
He will come back harder .

The slam race between Djokodal won't be a straight easy affair for either of the two .
They will fight for next two years at all slams .
Also , Rafa can win 3 more RGs in next 5 years . So Djoker needs to win atleast 5 slams more to stay ahead in slam race which is not easy

 

[40-15 still haunts me]

A Fed fan carrying for Djok LOL

I’m not carrying for anyone, if he’s disobeying the rules of the ATP I’d love nothing more than to see him get fined/banned for it, especially at the US Open as he’s chasing history

 

[daphne]

I’m not carrying for anyone, if he’s disobeying the rules of the ATP I’d love nothing more than to see him get fined/banned for it, especially at the US Open as he’s chasing history

Say goodbye to those dreams. It ain't happening. #21

 

[csmoove899]

At least Djokovic has the cojones to speak and act his mind unlike Federer and Nadal who despite all their wealth are petrified to set a pinky toe outside the corporate line.

 

[daphne]

At least Djokovic has the cojones to speak and act his mind unlike Federer and Nadal who despite all their wealth are petrified to set a pinky toe outside the corporate line.

No wonder why people cannot stand them.

 

[40-15 still haunts me]

At least Djokovic has the cojones to speak and act his mind unlike Federer and Nadal who despite all their wealth are petrified to set a pinky toe outside the corporate line.

They are behaving, unlike a certain Serb lol
Novak is acting like every player wants to join but so far he only has Raonic wanting to join lmao

 

[zagor]

Lawl, they're not gonna ban him from playing tourneys.

Anyway good on Novak, ATP/ITF have dined freely for too long.

 

[40-15 still haunts me]

Lawl, they're not gonna ban him from playing tourneys.

Anyway good on Novak, ATP/ITF have dined freely for too long.

They will when I email them

 

[Jai]

Novak has once again renewed his PTPA battle with the ATP with the ATP declaring “they will do anything and everything in their power to stop Novak from further developing the PTPA where he believes he can just do whatever he wants to do”
The “ Professional Tennis Players Association” founded by Vasek Pospisl and Novak Djokovic who both serve as presidents in the PTPA serves as a sort of players council and is not intended to replace the ATP. Djokovic and Pospisl claim that so many players want to join that it would be foolish for the ATP to deny talks with them, with the ATP saying that Novak has fragmented tennis and instead of creating unity has caused chaos and ” complete division”
With the ATP controlling most of what the men’s game is today, I have a feeling Novak could be fined heavily/ disciplined and be potentially denied access to certain tournaments including majors. Imagine Novak going to the US Open for the CYGS and getting sanctioned and refused acess to play by the ATP

Novak Djokovic and ATP at odds as he launches players’ association

Novak Djokovic is at odds with the ATP after he and his colleagues finally revealed a formal structure for the PTPA, the players’ association founded by him and fellow player Vasek Pospisil

www.theguardian.com

Political unrest as ATP speaks out against ‘divisive’ Novak Djokovic-led players’ union

On the eve of the genteel tournament that is Wimbledon, political goings-on behind the scenes in tennis are not so tranquil. Twenty-four hours after the Profess

www.thetimes.co.uk

You know as well as I do that the ATP wouldn't dare sanction Novak for this reason. It would trigger more fuel to the "revolt", because many fence sitters would be outraged if a governing body took such an extreme step against a prominent player. So no....they obviously oppose it tooth and nail, but the battle will be behind the scenes.

 

[zagor]

They will when I email them

You tell them man.

 

[Hitman]

But , noone should take Rafa lightly .
He will come back harder .

The slam race between Djokodal won't be a straight easy affair for either of the two .
They will fight for next two years at all slams .
Also , Rafa can win 3 more RGs in next 5 years . So Djoker needs to win atleast 5 slams more to stay ahead in slam race which is not easy

It's not about taking Rafa lightly, because if Novak did, Novak would not have beat him at RG.

Novak is the better player at 3 of the 4 slams, and he just beat Rafa at the 4th one. This RG was massive because it finally killed the gap between Rafa and Novak, what was meant to be a 3 slam gap has been reduced to 1. Do you think Rafa is going to continue to keep up the pace when we have clearly seen that he is struggling now to fight through five set matches even on clay?

Had the gap been 3, I would have likely agreed with you, now my view point has shifted, as Novak really turned everything upside down. From here, do you really see Rafa winning as many slams as Novak? I personally don't now, unless there are injuries, but all things even, Novak isn't going to stop now. He looks the fitter, fresher, hungier of the two.

And if Novak somehow pulls ahead before RG next year, it's over. Rafa isn't going to then catch him and overtake him at age 36 with his fitness getting worse. There is going to be no draw, Novak wants it all.

 

[40-15 still haunts me]

You know as well as I do that the ATP wouldn't dare sanction Novak for this reason. It would trigger more fuel to the "revolt", because many fence sitters would be outraged if a governing body took such an extreme step against a prominent player. So no....they obviously oppose it tooth and nail, but the battle will be behind the scenes.

You mean in the locker room right ? Towel fights and water bombs

 

[beard]

Novak surrounded PTPA with top class lawyers... No chance ATP can stop this...

Players are scared to show they are in PTPA and that's reason why list of those that signed to PTPA is not published...
At official PTPA thread on TTW I will give more details:

PTPA official thread

I think we need an official thread about PTPA - The Professional Tennis Players Association. It would be nice to put aside our favorites players, and don't do fan wars here. Please talk just about happenings considering PTPA. Oficial PTPA site: https://ptpaplayers.com/ Here you can get...

tt.tennis-warehouse.com

 

[maratha_warrior]

You mean in the locker room right ? Towel fights and water bombs

I can totally imagine Fedal throwing waterbombs at Djokovic hiding behind the door and krgious supplying water to Fedal

 

[daphne]

Novak surrounded PTPA with top class lawyers... No chance ATP can stop this...

Players are scared to show they are in PTPA and that's reason why list of those that signed to PTPA is not published...
At official PTPA thread on TTW I will give more details:

PTPA official thread

I think we need an official thread about PTPA - The Professional Tennis Players Association. It would be nice to put aside our favorites players, and don't do fan wars here. Please talk just about happenings considering PTPA. Oficial PTPA site: https://ptpaplayers.com/ Here you can get...

tt.tennis-warehouse.com

Who are the main financial backers of this organisation? Put those names out there and rest your case.

 

[NoleFam]

The ATP actually have control over the slams, not the ITF

The three governing bodies are

1. ITF — Formed in 1913, this body is responsible for
   
   1.1. The rules of the sport, the specifications, the technicalities
   1.2. The lower-level circuits
   1.3. The Wheelchair and Beach tennis versions
   1.4. Organizing the Davis Cup, Fed Cup, Hopman Cup, and Olympics.
   1.5. Handling the Tennis Anti-Doping Programme
2. ATP — Formed in 1972, this body is responsible for
   
   2.1. Organizing the ATP World Tour, which is the top-level circuit
   2.2. Grand Slams, The Masters, the WTF, the 500s, the 250s, the Challengers.
   2.3. The Rankings
   2.4. Collaboration with ITF on rules, specifications, drug-testing, etc.
3. Women’s Tennis Association (WTA)— Formed in 1973, this body is the female equivalent to the ATP and roughly has the same functions as the ATP.

The ATP has wrestled most control away from the ITF now and controls most of men’s tennis.

Where did you find this because it doesn't look accurate? The ITF organizes the Grand Slams which is totally separate from the WTA and ATP tours.

 

[CCPass]

Yes I am , we don’t have any common sense and chewing gum is currency

Putting fan wars aside, I can’t understand why fans are not behind this - it’s taking power from ATP and to the players themselves. If there’s any truth in what the OP says, Djokovic actually risks his own benefits to fight for the players.

 

[40-15 still haunts me]

Putting fan wars aside, I can’t understand why fans are not behind this - it’s taking power from ATP and to the players themselves. If there’s any truth in what the OP says, Djokovic actually risks his own benefits to fight for the players.

Some players are but some aren’t, there needs to be one players council with more input from all players with a governing board that will listen, instead of numerous tennis associations with differing rules that have benefits and downfalls depending which one you side with

 

[daphne]

Where did you find this because it doesn't look accurate? The ITF organizes the Grand Slams which is totally separate from the WTA and ATP tours.

The 40-15 nightmare has taken its toll. He is getting more frustrated and desperate by each day. Observe his behaviour in 2 weeks when Djok lifts his 20th.

 

[beard]

Who are the main financial backers of this organisation? Put those names out there and rest your case.

I don't know. Background team is extra strong as I understood...
Big thing is they got support from all top sport players associations in the USA... Can you imagine if ATP go aggressive against PTPA what would happen with that kind of support?

 

[CCPass]

He is not. He is more from the South. North Korean people are good people.

Seeing how he sucks up to authority and asks players to behave or they will be punished, I can’t say I agree.

 

[beard]

Some players are but some aren’t, there needs to be one players council with more input from all players with a governing board that will listen, instead of numerous tennis associations with differing rules that have benefits and downfalls depending which one you side with

75-80% of top 500 already signed in...

 

[daphne]

I don't know. Background team is extra strong as I understood...
Big thing is they got support from all top sport players associations in the USA... Can you imagine if ATP go aggressive against PTPA what would happen with that kind of support?

Some very very rich people are backing it. You do know what it means, don't you?

 

[NoleFam]

The 40-15 nightmare has taken its toll. He is getting more frustrated and desperate by each day. Observe his behaviour in 2 weeks when Djok lifts his 20th.

It's a long way to 20 but let's see how it goes.

 

[CCPass]

Some players are but some aren’t, there needs to be one players council with more input from all players with a governing board that will listen, instead of numerous tennis associations with differing rules that have benefits and downfalls depending which one you side with

75%-80% supermajority - don’t play dumb. Interested in seeing how these things progress. If it ends up improving situations for the players, you should have no objection I suppose.

 

[40-15 still haunts me]

Where did you find this because it doesn't look accurate? The ITF organizes the Grand Slams which is totally separate from the WTA and ATP tours.

It was on a tennis rules website but according to wiki you’re right, I have heard that the ATP control the ITF though?

 

[beard]

Some very very rich people are backing it. You do know what it means, don't you?

I really don't know, that statement is kinda mysterious for me. Maybe he wanted to say don't mess with us, we have strong supporters

 

[40-15 still haunts me]

75-80% of top 500 already signed in...

75-80% of the top 500, so basically every single person outside of the top 100 that nobody really watches or cares about watching while the top 100 remain in the ATP. Federer and Nadal have gone against it many times, which speaks volumes

 

[Jai]

You mean in the locker room right ? Towel fights and water bombs

Oh yes. They may claim moral victory that they managed to pull away their own towel

 

[NoleFam]

It was on a tennis rules website but according to wiki you’re right, I have heard that the ATP control the ITF though?

Well they don't control them. It even goes deeper than that because Slams did not all offer equal prize money at the same time. Wimbledon was the last one and the governing bodies there held out until Venus stepped in and wrote that letter years ago.

 

[Jai]

I can totally imagine Fedal throwing waterbombs at Djokovic hiding behind the door and krgious supplying water to Fedal

I hope Kyrgios stops with water. Knowing his attitude, other malodorous fluids might well be supplied.

 

[CCPass]

75-80% of the top 500, so basically every single person outside of the top 100 that nobody really watches or cares about watching while the top 100 remain in the ATP. Federer and Nadal have gone against it many times, which speaks volumes

Precisely why PTPA exists, to help improve the livelihood of underprivileged players whom nobody cares about. That’s for the good of all tennis players who play tennis for a living. How’s it good for tennis if only the top players can earn a living?

I sense that I can’t reason with you so I shall stop here.

 

[40-15 still haunts me]

Oh yes. They may claim moral victory that they managed to pull away their own towel

This is the locker room battle they will have when the ATP vs PTPA wars kick off, all wearing suits because it’s a professional debate and they wana stay classy

 

[daphne]

I really don't know, that statement is kinda mysterious for me. Maybe he wanted to say don't mess with us, we have strong supporters

It's all well planned out. Let's leave it at that.

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

Novak has once again renewed his PTPA battle with the ATP with the ATP declaring “they will do anything and everything in their power to stop Novak from further developing the PTPA where he believes he can just do whatever he wants to do”
The “ Professional Tennis Players Association” founded by Vasek Pospisl and Novak Djokovic who both serve as presidents in the PTPA serves as a sort of players council and is not intended to replace the ATP. Djokovic and Pospisl claim that so many players want to join that it would be foolish for the ATP to deny talks with them, with the ATP saying that Novak has fragmented tennis and instead of creating unity has caused chaos and ” complete division”
With the ATP controlling most of what the men’s game is today, I have a feeling Novak could be fined heavily/ disciplined and be potentially denied access to certain tournaments including majors. Imagine Novak going to the US Open for the CYGS and getting sanctioned and refused acess to play by the ATP

Novak Djokovic and ATP at odds as he launches players’ association

Novak Djokovic is at odds with the ATP after he and his colleagues finally revealed a formal structure for the PTPA, the players’ association founded by him and fellow player Vasek Pospisil

www.theguardian.com

Political unrest as ATP speaks out against ‘divisive’ Novak Djokovic-led players’ union

On the eve of the genteel tournament that is Wimbledon, political goings-on behind the scenes in tennis are not so tranquil. Twenty-four hours after the Profess

www.thetimes.co.uk

I fully support novak on this issue and totally dislike fedal's PC attitude over this.

To all the lovely nole fans saying me as a hater/troll, I heartily request you all to reconsider your decision.

@Hitman @OhYes @Tennis_Freak99 and many others.

 

[CCPass]

Some very very rich people are backing it. You do know what it means, don't you?

If all top sport associations in the US are backing PTPA, that means all the big sponsors behind are behind PTPA - ATP has to up their game, as PTPA has super strong leverage now it seems.

 

[40-15 still haunts me]

Precisely why PTPA exists, to help improve the livelihood of underprivileged players whom nobody cares about. That’s for the good of all tennis players who play tennis for a living. How’s it good for tennis if only the top players can earn a living?

I sense that I can’t reason with you so I shall stop here.

The ATP already does a lot for the younger players though, what is a another players council going to do to correct that when the ATP will be at war with the PTPA. Novak is just trying to create something he has no power in and will only hurt him. He needs to stick to the sport he’s good at and not be political, it’s like he’s chasing all these records but now thinks he has the rights to change the rules to his whim and make his own governing boards that can do what they want

 

[daphne]

I fully support novak on this issue and totally dislike fedal's PC attitude over this.

To all the lovely nole fans saying me as a hater/troll, I heartily request you all to reconsider your decision.

@Hitman @OhYes @Tennis_Freak99 and many others.

I will take this post into consideration every time I reply to you from now on.

 

[CCPass]

The ATP already does a lot for the younger players though, what is a another players council going to do to correct that when the ATP will be at war with the PTPA. Novak is just trying to create something he has no power in and will only hurt him. He needs to stick to the sport he’s good at and not be political, it’s like he’s chasing all these records but now thinks he has the rights to change the rules to his whim and make his own governing boards that can do what they want

The reality is the opposite, or there will not be 75%-80% signing up. If you can’t see beyond your hatred for Novak, it’s not my problem.

 

[Tshooter]

…
With the ATP controlling most of what the men’s game is today, I have a feeling Novak could be fined heavily/ disciplined and be potentially denied access to certain tournaments including majors. Imagine Novak going to the US Open for the CYGS and getting sanctioned and refused acess to play by the ATP

How much additional “a USTA event” signage does the USTA have to install at the USO until you realize it’s not an ATP event. The signage is literally placed under every single USO logo. In the event it‘s still unclear to you, the ATP neither owns nor controls the USO.

 

[40-15 still haunts me]

The PTPA will never be taken seriously until Federer and Nadal voice their support for it, until then, Novak has no chance

Federer and Nadal setting trend to oppose Djokovic PTPA

Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal will not join Novak Djokovic's newly-formed union.

www.express.co.uk

Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal among critics of Novak Djokovic's new players' association | CNN

Tennis has been left divided following the launch of a breakaway players' association, with Roger Fereder and Rafael Nadal among those to criticize its formation.

edition.cnn.com

Fedal tweeting about not wanting any part of PTPA

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1299774755319422976