PTPA is going to hurt Novak BIG TIME

[CCPass]

The PTPA will never be taken seriously until Federer and Nadal voice their support for it, until then, Novak has no chance

Federer and Nadal setting trend to oppose Djokovic PTPA

Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal will not join Novak Djokovic's newly-formed union.

www.express.co.uk

Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal among critics of Novak Djokovic's new players' association | CNN

Tennis has been left divided following the launch of a breakaway players' association, with Roger Fereder and Rafael Nadal among those to criticize its formation.

edition.cnn.com

Fedal tweeting about not wanting any part of PTPA

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1299774755319422976

Fedal are the establishment’s poster boys - the current progress makes it clear that they have already moved forward despite them disagreeing.

I agree that PTPA will most likely not become a permanent thing. It’s used as a leverage to set better terms for the players and if it’s accomplished, it’s already a net benefit for tennis and the players.

 

[Bartelby]

Federer and Nadal are irrelevant. The PTPA is going around the ATP, not through it. Big money will fund an ATP alternative in due course. It's Djokovic's retirement project.

The PTPA will never be taken seriously until Federer and Nadal voice their support for it, until then, Novak has no chance

Federer and Nadal setting trend to oppose Djokovic PTPA

Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal will not join Novak Djokovic's newly-formed union.

www.express.co.uk

Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal among critics of Novak Djokovic's new players' association | CNN

Tennis has been left divided following the launch of a breakaway players' association, with Roger Fereder and Rafael Nadal among those to criticize its formation.

edition.cnn.com

Fedal tweeting about not wanting any part of PTPA

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1299774755319422976

 

[40-15 still haunts me]

Fedal are the establishment’s poster boys - the current progress makes it clear that they have already moved forward despite them disagreeing.

I agree that PTPA will most likely not become a permanent thing. It’s used as a leverage to set better terms for the players and if it’s accomplished, it’s already a net benefit for tennis and the players.

Anything that makes players lives and experiences easier, I’m all for it. I just think Novak needs to focus on his tennis and this could be an after tennis activity he focused on when he’s retired where he helps individuals that are lower ranked come through and have the right opportunities to go forward. Until then i can only see more arguments between PTPA and ATP and more division, both sides do need to talk although I can’t see the good it would do. Novak had a seat on the ATP council board and could have attempted to adopt his ideas and changes through the ATP himself instead of creating a separate board

 

[NoleFam]

The PTPA will never be taken seriously until Federer and Nadal voice their support for it, until then, Novak has no chance

Federer and Nadal setting trend to oppose Djokovic PTPA

Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal will not join Novak Djokovic's newly-formed union.

www.express.co.uk

Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal among critics of Novak Djokovic's new players' association | CNN

Tennis has been left divided following the launch of a breakaway players' association, with Roger Fereder and Rafael Nadal among those to criticize its formation.

edition.cnn.com

Fedal tweeting about not wanting any part of PTPA

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1299774755319422976

If the player's leagues of the NBA, NHL and MLB came out and supported the PTPA publicly, then it is already being taken seriously. I'd rather Djokovic focus on his tennis and the records but this is something that's obviously very important to him, and he is using his position to push for change to help players in this sport in the long run. This is very brave and it seems to be catching momentum.

 

[beard]

75-80% of the top 500, so basically every single person outside of the top 100 that nobody really watches or cares about watching while the top 100 remain in the ATP. Federer and Nadal have gone against it many times, which speaks volumes

We don't know who those players are... But know that no1 and future goat is in...

 

[Tshooter]

More power to the guy but I don't understand the timing. Couldn't he at least wait until the US Open is over..

He should concentrate on tennis for the time being.

That’s the ATP play. It’s never the right time.

 

[CCPass]

Anything that makes players lives and experiences easier, I’m all for it. I just think Novak needs to focus on his tennis and this could be an after tennis activity he focused on when he’s retired where he helps individuals that are lower ranked come through and have the right opportunities to go forward. Until then i can only see more arguments between PTPA and ATP and more division, both sides do need to talk although I can’t see the good it would do. Novak had a seat on the ATP council board and could have attempted to adopt his ideas and changes through the ATP himself instead of creating a separate board

To have negotiation power, you need leverage. This friction before a proper negotiation is necessary, and given that the end goal is to improve the livelihood of all players of the sport we all love, I have no objection.

 

[Tshooter]

The ATP already does a lot for the younger players though, what is a another players council going to do to correct that when the ATP will be at war with the PTPA. Novak is just trying to create something he has no power in and will only hurt him. He needs to stick to the sport he’s good at and not be political, it’s like he’s chasing all these records but now thinks he has the rights to change the rules to his whim and make his own governing boards that can do what they want

Pretend it’s not Eggvax in front and try to think about the merits of the PTPA on its own terms. Else you will go down the rabbit hole. There are points for and against the PTPA and they don’t have diddly to do with Eggvax (though having the #1 player behind it is obviously important.)

 

[Tshooter]

The PTPA will never be taken seriously until Federer and Nadal voice their support for it, until then, Novak has no chance…

It’s already being taken seriously (ATP CEO freak out on Popsy indicative of “taking it seriously”). I guarantee you the Majors with their roughly 15% or so revenue payout to the players are watching closely. While it would be huge to get the two most popular male tennis players on-board Fedal do very well under the existing tour structure so it’s a hard sell. So does Eggvax but he wants more control for all players. He wants what many players have wanted since the inception of the open era but for various reasons have compromised — a players only association.

 

[Raul_SJ]

Rafa and Roger also care about players and they are dragging their heels.
We need to understand why.
Posters here are calling them shameless corporate shills and sellouts.
That is not a response. That is engaging in Ad Hominem!

 

[Bartelby]

Please do tell us why they are dragging their heels?

Rafa and Roger also care about players and they are dragging their heels.
We need to understand why.
Posters here are calling them shameless corporate shills and sellouts.
That is not a response. That is engaging in Ad Hominem!

 

[Raul_SJ]

Please do tell us why they are dragging their heels?

We do not know as there has been no open dialogue on the issues. We cannot presume that those two are not just as concerned with the welfare of players. Stop painting them as establishment shills!

 

[Bluemoon20]

The ATP do have majority control so Novak doesn’t have much of a say unless all players just refuse to play or something , essentially a strike lol

Why on earth Djokovic brings this up now is mind boggling.

 

[Raul_SJ]

NBA players union is not the model. NBA ratings are crashing.

Ratings for Game 2 of the NBA Western Conference Finals Crash 33% from 2019

Bob Costas once said that the NBA's social justice messaging was alienating its fans, and Bob Costas is a very smart man.

www.breitbart.com

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

I will take this post into consideration every time I reply to you from now on.

Thank you very much for your kind words

 

[Deleted member 748597]

The PTPA will never be taken seriously until Federer and Nadal voice their support for it, until then, Novak has no chance

Federer and Nadal setting trend to oppose Djokovic PTPA

Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal will not join Novak Djokovic's newly-formed union.

www.express.co.uk

Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal among critics of Novak Djokovic's new players' association | CNN

Tennis has been left divided following the launch of a breakaway players' association, with Roger Fereder and Rafael Nadal among those to criticize its formation.

edition.cnn.com

Fedal tweeting about not wanting any part of PTPA

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1299774755319422976

lol

 

[vex]

Novak has once again renewed his PTPA battle with the ATP with the ATP declaring “they will do anything and everything in their power to stop Novak from further developing the PTPA where he believes he can just do whatever he wants to do”
The “ Professional Tennis Players Association” founded by Vasek Pospisl and Novak Djokovic who both serve as presidents in the PTPA serves as a sort of players council and is not intended to replace the ATP. Djokovic and Pospisl claim that so many players want to join that it would be foolish for the ATP to deny talks with them, with the ATP saying that Novak has fragmented tennis and instead of creating unity has caused chaos and ” complete division”
With the ATP controlling most of what the men’s game is today, I have a feeling Novak could be fined heavily/ disciplined and be potentially denied access to certain tournaments including majors. Imagine Novak going to the US Open for the CYGS and getting sanctioned and refused acess to play by the ATP

Novak Djokovic and ATP at odds as he launches players’ association

Novak Djokovic is at odds with the ATP after he and his colleagues finally revealed a formal structure for the PTPA, the players’ association founded by him and fellow player Vasek Pospisil

www.theguardian.com

Political unrest as ATP speaks out against ‘divisive’ Novak Djokovic-led players’ union

On the eve of the genteel tournament that is Wimbledon, political goings-on behind the scenes in tennis are not so tranquil. Twenty-four hours after the Profess

www.thetimes.co.uk

You’re approaching Beckertennis levels of fantasy land if you think the ATP is banning Novak from playing anything lol

Novak standing up for lower ranked players and idiots on an Internet forum are attacking it. Sad

As for Fedal. Fed is DONE. Players aren’t looking to him for **** and Nadal has NEVER been a leader. Nonfactors.

 

[pj80]

The PTPA will never be taken seriously until Federer and Nadal voice their support for it, until then, Novak has no chance

Federer and Nadal setting trend to oppose Djokovic PTPA

Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal will not join Novak Djokovic's newly-formed union.

www.express.co.uk

Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal among critics of Novak Djokovic's new players' association | CNN

Tennis has been left divided following the launch of a breakaway players' association, with Roger Fereder and Rafael Nadal among those to criticize its formation.

edition.cnn.com

Fedal tweeting about not wanting any part of PTPA

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1299774755319422976

kind of seems like Roger is agreeing with Djoker here, with the way he wrote it...maybe unintentional.
he said:

I agree Rafa. These are uncertain and challenging times... BUT I believe it’s critical for us to stand united as players, and as a sport, to pave the best way forward.

 

[40-15 still haunts me]

You’re approaching Beckertennis levels of fantasy land if you think the ATP is banning Novak from playing anything lol

Novak standing up for lower ranked players and idiots on an Internet forum are attacking it. Sad

As for Fedal. Fed is DONE. Players aren’t looking to him for **** and Nadal has NEVER been a leader. Nonfactors.

I’ll disprove your theory, if Federer were to announce his own players council tomorrow for example , ATP would instantly approve, everyone in Djokovics PTPA group would instantly leave and join his. That’s just how it goes. Not that I’d even agree with Fed or Nadal starting their own groups. Djokos popularity right now is at an all time low with both the press and the majority of tennis fans who have watched the sport from before 2011, stunts like the PTPA put him even lower

 

[daphne]

I’ll disprove your theory, if Federer were to announce his own players council tomorrow for example , ATP would instantly approve, everyone in Djokovics PTPA group would instantly leave and join his. That’s just how it goes. Not that I’d even agree with Fed or Nadal starting their own groups. Djokos popularity right now is at an all time low with both the press and the majority of tennis fans who have watched the sport from before 2011, stunts like the PTPA put him even lower

Pure desperation and obsession. No clue!

 

[SonnyT]

Djokovic has been through this before. Is this the 2nd or 3rd year that this has come up? He knew it couldn't hurt him, or else he would've pushed it aside.

 

[Deleted member 771911]

I think it's OK. By the time the thing gets off the ground properly, Nole's days at the top will be done.

 

[Bartelby]

Djokovic has found himself some money men so either key players will defect to a new tour or there will be an accommodation.

 

[CCPass]

I’ll disprove your theory, if Federer were to announce his own players council tomorrow for example , ATP would instantly approve, everyone in Djokovics PTPA group would instantly leave and join his. That’s just how it goes. Not that I’d even agree with Fed or Nadal starting their own groups. Djokos popularity right now is at an all time low with both the press and the majority of tennis fans who have watched the sport from before 2011, stunts like the PTPA put him even lower

Clearly everything is about fan wars with you. That’s how not to be taken seriously.

 

[40-15 still haunts me]

Clearly everything is about fan wars with you. That’s how not to be taken seriously.

There is no war anymore, I’m a Federer fan, the war has already been won

 

[itrium84]

Novak has once again renewed his PTPA battle with the ATP with the ATP declaring “they will do anything and everything in their power to stop Novak from further developing the PTPA where he believes he can just do whatever he wants to do”
The “ Professional Tennis Players Association” founded by Vasek Pospisl and Novak Djokovic who both serve as presidents in the PTPA serves as a sort of players council and is not intended to replace the ATP. Djokovic and Pospisl claim that so many players want to join that it would be foolish for the ATP to deny talks with them, with the ATP saying that Novak has fragmented tennis and instead of creating unity has caused chaos and ” complete division”
With the ATP controlling most of what the men’s game is today, I have a feeling Novak could be fined heavily/ disciplined and be potentially denied access to certain tournaments including majors. Imagine Novak going to the US Open for the CYGS and getting sanctioned and refused acess to play by the ATP

Novak Djokovic and ATP at odds as he launches players’ association

Novak Djokovic is at odds with the ATP after he and his colleagues finally revealed a formal structure for the PTPA, the players’ association founded by him and fellow player Vasek Pospisil

www.theguardian.com

Political unrest as ATP speaks out against ‘divisive’ Novak Djokovic-led players’ union

On the eve of the genteel tournament that is Wimbledon, political goings-on behind the scenes in tennis are not so tranquil. Twenty-four hours after the Profess

www.thetimes.co.uk

ATP has no control in the matter of GS tournaments and it's participants.

 

[onehandbh]

NBA players union is not the model. NBA ratings are crashing.

Ratings for Game 2 of the NBA Western Conference Finals Crash 33% from 2019

Bob Costas once said that the NBA's social justice messaging was alienating its fans, and Bob Costas is a very smart man.

www.breitbart.com

Breitbart? Seriously? One of the least accurate sources of objective news.

During the shortened 2020 season ratings were down but overall the NBA has been doing great. Player salaries have continued to climb and climb. Traditional broadcast tv is no longer the only way people watch the NBA or how it monetizes. Even journeymen players are making decent money.

The popularity has also grown globally for the NBA.

 

[Kralingen]

NBA players union is not the model. NBA ratings are crashing.

Ratings for Game 2 of the NBA Western Conference Finals Crash 33% from 2019

Bob Costas once said that the NBA's social justice messaging was alienating its fans, and Bob Costas is a very smart man.

www.breitbart.com

Linking Breitbart twice in a week

 

[zorglub76]

More power to the guy but I don't understand the timing. Couldn't he at least wait until the US Open is over..

He should concentrate on tennis for the time being.

Novak wants to postpone the voting for ATP's 30-years plan, that should happen soon. He wants players to have their say about that decision.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1408161726055464960

 

[40-15 still haunts me]

Novak wants to postpone the voting for ATP's 30-years plan, that should happen soon. He wants players to have their say about that decision.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1408161726055464960

Howling at the replies, no love for Novak at all. the first comment is “NADAL IS THE GREATEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME “ and the second is a photo of Novak hitting the lines woman which got him defaulted lmfao

 

[Tenacity]

Howling at the replies, no love for Novak at all. the first comment is “NADAL IS THE GREATEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME “ and the second is a photo of Novak hitting the lines woman which got him defaulted lmfao

Twitter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TTW when it comes to toxicity lol, nothing surprising.

 

[40-15 still haunts me]

Twitter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TTW when it comes to toxicity lol, nothing surprising.

Twitter is awful for it I agree

 

[Villain]

I’ll disprove your theory, if Federer were to announce his own players council tomorrow for example , ATP would instantly approve, everyone in Djokovics PTPA group would instantly leave and join his. That’s just how it goes. Not that I’d even agree with Fed or Nadal starting their own groups. Djokos popularity right now is at an all time low with both the press and the majority of tennis fans who have watched the sport from before 2011, stunts like the PTPA put him even lower

Novak may not be as popular as Fed with the media but he is more popular with the players so I don’t think so. If there is anything I’ve learned from this thread it’s that you understand very little about the Majors, Tennis Australia, FFT, AELTC, USTA, ATP, ITF, PTPA, and how they operate. Thread fail.

 

[40-15 still haunts me]

Novak may not be as popular as Fed with the media but he is more popular with the players so I don’t think so. If there is anything I’ve learned from this thread it’s that you understand very little about the Majors/Tennis Australia/FFT/AELTC/USTA/ATP/ITF/PTPA and how they operate. Thread fail.

More favoured by the players ? Sorry how many times has Novak won the Edberg sportsmanship awards voted for by other players in comparison to Federer? LOL
The players dislike Novak big time , the only fail here is your comment.

 

[CCPass]

Novak may not be as popular as Fed with the media but he is more popular with the players so I don’t think so. If there is anything I’ve learned from this thread it’s that you understand very little about the Majors, Tennis Australia, FFT, AELTC, USTA, ATP, ITF, PTPA, and how they operate. Thread fail.

This, as serious topic like this requires a minimum level of correct understanding about the current structure of professional tennis. For this reason, I’m out.

 

[Villain]

More favoured by the players ? Sorry how many times has Novak won the Edberg sportsmanship awards voted for by other players in comparison to Federer? LOL
The players dislike Novak big time , the only fail here is your comment.

Yes, because the Edberg Trophy is the obvious corollary here. Please tell me again how the ATP can ban Novak from the slams.

 

[GameSetDjokovic]

They will when I email them

Funny how that is now your only hope of stopping Djokovic lol. Loving it.

 

[vex]

I’ll disprove your theory, if Federer were to announce his own players council tomorrow for example , ATP would instantly approve, everyone in Djokovics PTPA group would instantly leave and join his. That’s just how it goes. Not that I’d even agree with Fed or Nadal starting their own groups. Djokos popularity right now is at an all time low with both the press and the majority of tennis fans who have watched the sport from before 2011, stunts like the PTPA put him even lower

You are really living in fantasyland lol

 

[vex]

ATP has no control in the matter of GS tournaments and it's participants.

I didn’t even bother mentioning this to pop OP’a
Fantasy but also correct

 

[vex]

Howling at the replies, no love for Novak at all. the first comment is “NADAL IS THE GREATEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME “ and the second is a photo of Novak hitting the lines woman which got him defaulted lmfao

Bro you literally just watched Beckertennis melt himself right off this website with desperate, sweaty posts like this and you’re like “I’ll have some of that!”

 

[40-15 still haunts me]

Bro you literally just watched Beckertennis melt himself right off this website with desperate, sweaty posts like this and you’re like “I’ll have some of that!”

he is still on here with another 2 accounts actually

 

[The Guru]

Bro you literally just watched Beckertennis melt himself right off this website with desperate, sweaty posts like this and you’re like “I’ll have some of that!”

Is Becker gone? Can't say I'd miss him much but now we've got a just as delusional replacement it seems.

 

[40-15 still haunts me]

Is Becker gone? Can't say I'd miss him much but now we've got a just as delusional replacement it seems.

Yeah okay….some serious idiots on this forum. Can’t even have a discussion because I’m not a Novak Djokovic supporter. Apparently if you’re not a Novak supporter on these forums you get hated on and banned for posting good content

 

[Deleted member 748597]

Yeah okay….some serious idiots on this forum. Can’t even have a discussion because I’m not a Novak Djokovic supporter. Apparently if you’re not a Novak supporter on these forums you get hated on and banned for posting good content

Roflmao

 

[OhYes]

I fully support novak on this issue and totally dislike fedal's PC attitude over this.

To all the lovely nole fans saying me as a hater/troll, I heartily request you all to reconsider your decision.

@Hitman @OhYes @Tennis_Freak99 and many others.

I don't know you well and can't recognise troll tbh

 

[SonicNirvana]

Twitter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TTW when it comes to toxicity lol, nothing surprising.

yeah its generally respectful on here most of the time.

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

I don't know you well and can't recognise troll tbh

Why bro?

 

[Rosstour]

More power to the guy but I don't understand the timing. Couldn't he at least wait until the US Open is over..

He should concentrate on tennis for the time being.

Why on earth Djokovic brings this up now is mind boggling.

This, could not believe it even I saw it in the news again. And now he is claiming that he talked to Serena about it as well as other female players. Wonder what she thought when she saw him dropping her name?

 

[T007]

Novak has once again renewed his PTPA battle with the ATP with the ATP declaring “they will do anything and everything in their power to stop Novak from further developing the PTPA where he believes he can just do whatever he wants to do”
The “ Professional Tennis Players Association” founded by Vasek Pospisl and Novak Djokovic who both serve as presidents in the PTPA serves as a sort of players council and is not intended to replace the ATP. Djokovic and Pospisl claim that so many players want to join that it would be foolish for the ATP to deny talks with them, with the ATP saying that Novak has fragmented tennis and instead of creating unity has caused chaos and ” complete division”
With the ATP controlling most of what the men’s game is today, I have a feeling Novak could be fined heavily/ disciplined and be potentially denied access to certain tournaments including majors. Imagine Novak going to the US Open for the CYGS and getting sanctioned and refused acess to play by the ATP

Novak Djokovic and ATP at odds as he launches players’ association

Novak Djokovic is at odds with the ATP after he and his colleagues finally revealed a formal structure for the PTPA, the players’ association founded by him and fellow player Vasek Pospisil

www.theguardian.com

Political unrest as ATP speaks out against ‘divisive’ Novak Djokovic-led players’ union

On the eve of the genteel tournament that is Wimbledon, political goings-on behind the scenes in tennis are not so tranquil. Twenty-four hours after the Profess

www.thetimes.co.uk

Djoker himself will give up once he loses 2-3 slams in a row cheaply. This fuel is ignited by him because he won RG and if not for that he would have sat quiet and focus on his Game,Records ...whatever.

 

[OhYes]

Why bro?

Bcs I'm not invested here, sorry