Puma Boris Becker Super

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This week, I have been playing with my retired racquets and was shocked at how good they played. I have several Puma Boris Becker Super's that I tried out and let my hitting partner play with.

We both loved the smooth feel and control. The plow through was great. I weighed the racquets after playing and they were 13 oz. each; no racquets come so heavy these days.

Does anyone know if these are different from the Estusa Boris Becker. My racquets say GRAPHITE 50/50 FIBERGLAS on top of the frame. I have heard that Becker's Estusa's were 80/20 graphite to fiberglass.
 
yes, boris played the 80/20 but the same mold as the super. his racket was tuned with some lead and no basic grip, just two overgrips.
 
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A friend told me that the Bosworth Estusa Becker weighs 12.6 oz. I am a big guy (6'7") and play with a 6 grip (4 3/4). My racquet weighs 13 0z. Does the weight differ between grips?
 
Lots of variables here, as is usually the case with frames that are different. Bosworth frames were as Becker preferred his frames: no replacement grip, two overgrips, a bit of lead. Also, graphite and fiberglass have different densities, and even if Becker's frames were 80/20, who knows if the frames had more/less other things inside.
 
Hello....Do you know guys where can I buy a Puma Boris Becker Super or Estusa?....thanks.
 
...great insight (read as KNOWLEDGABLE REPLIES!!), guys...thanks !!! I always liked those old Esusa frames as well....dumped the last of mine a LONG time ago...but was thinking about getting '1' just to re-work bal./swingweight to see how I might use it 'these days' (as in older...Hahaha!!). I'd probably meke it even a little MORE headlight, and string it with a loose Timo/NXT combo....good for starters ??
 
the puma has more heft than the estusa by at least 0.5 oz, if not, more.
the plough-thru is great on the puma..

the estusa PBP is solid but may need a little lead on the head to get the same pt action as the Super.

has anyone tried the Puma Winner?? how different is it from the Super?
need one of these.
 
Puma Becker Super

Ericsson...

By your posts and where you're located, you appear to be a Super expert (which is a good thing). I've recently picked up my old Super and found that I like many of its qualities. Is there anything being currently (or recently) made that can match it closely?

Thanks..
 
10sNut said:
Ericsson...

By your posts and where you're located, you appear to be a Super expert (which is a good thing). I've recently picked up my old Super and found that I like many of its qualities. Is there anything being currently (or recently) made that can match it closely?

Thanks..
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Short answer, NO

you can demo a lot but the feeling of the super's is hard to find...

(closest i got was the volkl T10 VE mid) but no super ;-)
 
The 50/50 frame was the racket that was sold in the US when Boris first broke big. The 80/20 {Graphite_Glass} was the European model that was imported after a couple of years. I had a friend break 5 of the 50/50 when they first came out. He finally got replacement that were 80/20 which he used for the next ten years.
 
sorry for bringing back this thread, anyone know the lead placement of Boris' frame? Also there's been Head versions of his frame with some silver strips painted on, could those be indications where the leads went? thanks
 
PBODY99 said:
The 50/50 frame was the racket that was sold in the US when Boris first broke big. The 80/20 {Graphite_Glass} was the European model that was imported after a couple of years. I had a friend break 5 of the 50/50 when they first came out. He finally got replacement that were 80/20 which he used for the next ten years.
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I used to play the 50/50 version in college. I can't tell you how many of those things I broke! But still one of my favorite sticks, along with the Puma Vilas.
 
PSC85 said:
sorry for bringing back this thread, anyone know the lead placement of Boris' frame? Also there's been Head versions of his frame with some silver strips painted on, could those be indications where the leads went? thanks
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I never saw a HEAD frame with the egg shape. I did see his frame being strung at the US Pro Indoor, I noticed no visible lead
 
PSC85 said:
sorry for bringing back this thread, anyone know the lead placement of Boris' frame? Also there's been Head versions of his frame with some silver strips painted on, could those be indications where the leads went? thanks
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PSC85 said:
sorry for bringing back this thread, anyone know the lead placement of Boris' frame? Also there's been Head versions of his frame with some silver strips painted on, could those be indications where the leads went? thanks
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I have Boris Becker 11 Special Edition racquet. It was said that it's real Boris' specs racquet at that moment. There are two lead strips from each side, placing from 8 to 10.
 
I did have one of the 50/50 versions and mine cracked as well. I thought that was just a fluke. I guess it was not seeing the posts here. I wish I would have had one of the 80/20versions. I would probably still have it since it lasted longer. They just had a lot different feel to them compared to the new racquets out on the market today, no feel just tinny feedback when you hit. Sad.
 
TinTin 1 said:
I used to play the 50/50 version in college. I can't tell you how many of those things I broke! But still one of my favorite sticks, along with the Puma Vilas.
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It is not really correct: 50/50 ist the BB Super in Red/Blue, 80/20 ist 80 Fiberglass and 20 Graphite - not otherwise! -and was the BB Winner Red/Silver. AND: Beckers personal rackets were always from the beginning 50/50 !
 
Anyone know how the PCS system with the screw works to change the racket length, after you take the grip off? Is it just a matter of twisting with a screwdriver, or are there any special instructions? Thanks!
 
Grafil Injection said:
Anyone know how the PCS system with the screw works to change the racket length, after you take the grip off? Is it just a matter of twisting with a screwdriver, or are there any special instructions? Thanks!
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No special instructions if you have to change the grip. You twist the PCS system with a screwdriver, then the length of the racket is modified. That's all.
 
Long hit with the coach today using the Becker Winner. I left the screw as it was when I purchased the stick, which is about 1/4 short of 27". What a superb stick! Power and control. Great for serving. On central hits the feeling is very solid and sweet. Only issue is outside of the middle there is a bit of flex, which is a bit disconcerting. I note the different percentages of fibre-glass metioned, but does anyone know the RDC of the Winner versus the Super? I'm wondering how much stiffer the Super is?
 
@tennistiger knows his stuff he also has the literature ( German print) to prove all of his statements. I thought of myself to know all the details about puma Becker racket info. Come to find out I was wrong about more than a few things . Mostly about RA information, which to me gives me personally most of the story that I’m interested in as all other things can be manipulated heavily , RA can change too a little bit .. only sanding down to various depths .
 
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