Pure Aero 98 Club

ajspurs

Rookie
So, bad news, maybe.
I’m back home after 2 months. 2 months tennisless. Second day home I hit the court with the Aero I had had little time to get used to. My elbow hurt. Maybe it’s the racquet, maybe it’s because I was basically completely out of shape and tried to play like I had been playing for weeks. More on that to come, but I can’t say I won’t be looking for some more comfortable options

I've had a bit of arm/elbow pain with this at one point but rested it a bit and wore an arm compression sleeve when I did play. Have no pain whatsoever now, but still play with the arm sleeve as a precaution.

With regard to the Aero 98, this is just the perfect racket for me in having a pretty extreme grip. Can be really aggressive with all the spin but can also play heavy loopy balls that bounce up high on the opponent too.

I do have a standard 2023 Aero too which I loved initially, but now it always feels a bit too powerful whenever I switch back to it for fun.
 

Underdog

Professional
I've had a bit of arm/elbow pain with this at one point but rested it a bit and wore an arm compression sleeve when I did play. Have no pain whatsoever now, but still play with the arm sleeve as a precaution.

With regard to the Aero 98, this is just the perfect racket for me in having a pretty extreme grip. Can be really aggressive with all the spin but can also play heavy loopy balls that bounce up high on the opponent too.

I do have a standard 2023 Aero too which I loved initially, but now it always feels a bit too powerful whenever I switch back to it for fun.
Appreciate the feedback. I’ll try to give my arm some time to settle.
 

Honza

Semi-Pro
Appreciate the feedback. I’ll try to give my arm some time to settle.
Just switch to another stick. Everytime you hit outside of the sweetspot, your whole body vibrates with that PA98. Dont accept that because of the seldom exceptional sweet feeling when hitting exactly the sweetspot.
 

bobeeto

Hall of Fame
Despite its criticisms,

The Pure Aero 98 is the 6.1 95 for the next gen. Went to a LA UTR tennis event earlier this month and about 50% of the guys had one. The alcaraz/rune/fils effect is nuts
 

Honza

Semi-Pro
Despite its criticisms,

The Pure Aero 98 is the 6.1 95 for the next gen. Went to a LA UTR tennis event earlier this month and about 50% of the guys had one. The alcaraz/rune/fils effect is nuts

Sure, i had 3 of them too. For well trained bodies its a blast.
 
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maksp

Semi-Pro
Just switch to another stick. Everytime you hit outside of the sweetspot, your whole body vibrates with that PA98. Dont accept that because of the seldom exceptional sweet feeling when hitting exactly the sweetspot.
Or you could switch to multi or hybrid with soft poly.i tried a clash with 4G that hurt my elbow.. I tried a pure drive with a multi poly hybrid that felt like hitting with a pillow.
 

ajspurs

Rookie
Appreciate the feedback. I’ll try to give my arm some time to settle.

No worries. And in all respect to the poster (everyone has different experiences, bodies and racket setups etc), I certainly do not get anything near this 'whole body vibrating' from off-centre hits. I play with Hyper-G Soft 17 and in stock form for reference.
 
No worries. And in all respect to the poster (everyone has different experiences, bodies and racket setups etc), I certainly do not get anything near this 'whole body vibrating' from off-centre hits. I play with Hyper-G Soft 17 and in stock form for reference.
Agreed.

What tension are you playing? I'm flirting with new strings and set ups. Former RPM Blast addict.
 
So, bad news, maybe.
I’m back home after 2 months. 2 months tennisless. Second day home I hit the court with the Aero I had had little time to get used to. My elbow hurt. Maybe it’s the racquet, maybe it’s because I was basically completely out of shape and tried to play like I had been playing for weeks. More on that to come, but I can’t say I won’t be looking for some more comfortable options

When it came out, I noted that it was an elbow killer.

So if you're experiencing this, I would recommend moving forward.

I played 4 or 5 times with it and my elbow almost fell off.

I demoed an Ezone 98, Auxetic Radical Pro and Auxetic Extreme Tour.

Ordered the Extreme Tour and the elbow pain went away.
 

topspn

G.O.A.T.
I am not sure what this elbow hurting stuff is. I am not made out of steel and getting up in age. I’ve had tennis elbow before pretty bad but that was 3yrs ago. I have a leather grip on my PA98 and play it 50lbs. So tour sniper, confidential, wasabi, super toro all polys and I have no elbow pain and don’t feel anything particularly jarring with the frame. Mine does have a natural healthy SW of 331 strung. If anything, the sweet spot is huge on this frame. So total disconnect for me on some of the commentary
 

BomBomBecker

New User
I am not sure what this elbow hurting stuff is. I am not made out of steel and getting up in age. I’ve had tennis elbow before pretty bad but that was 3yrs ago. I have a leather grip on my PA98 and play it 50lbs. So tour sniper, confidential, wasabi, super toro all polys and I have no elbow pain and don’t feel anything particularly jarring with the frame. Mine does have a natural healthy SW of 331 strung. If anything, the sweet spot is huge on this frame. So total disconnect for me on some of the commentary
Same for me, I don't understand what they are talking about, I've been using the racket for a year and never had a problem. And I had big elbow and shoulder problems before from Prostaff v13
 

Fighting phoenix

Professional
I am not sure what this elbow hurting stuff is. I am not made out of steel and getting up in age. I’ve had tennis elbow before pretty bad but that was 3yrs ago. I have a leather grip on my PA98 and play it 50lbs. So tour sniper, confidential, wasabi, super toro all polys and I have no elbow pain and don’t feel anything particularly jarring with the frame. Mine does have a natural healthy SW of 331 strung. If anything, the sweet spot is huge on this frame. So total disconnect for me on some of the commentary
Agreed on my end too - I have a shoulder / tennis elbow history, and had no problems with the PA98 with full poly
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
I am not sure what this elbow hurting stuff is. I am not made out of steel and getting up in age. I’ve had tennis elbow before pretty bad but that was 3yrs ago. I have a leather grip on my PA98 and play it 50lbs. So tour sniper, confidential, wasabi, super toro all polys and I have no elbow pain and don’t feel anything particularly jarring with the frame. Mine does have a natural healthy SW of 331 strung. If anything, the sweet spot is huge on this frame. So total disconnect for me on some of the commentary

I have a friend that I got with, he's a very good player (I'd say 5.0+), and when we hit, he'll have his racquets set up how he likes it... and I'll have mine set up how I like it. We'll both be blasting away, enjoying ourselves and our racquets, but as they might be different racquets that we haven't tried before, we might swap to experience the racquet we haven't got with before. Most of the time, he will not like my set-ups (and will comment how the sweet spot is smaller, or the racquet is unstable or something), and I will not like his. But, we're both hitting cleanly with our own set-ups, and we feel the sweet spot/zone is large, and the racquets are forgiving.

I think it just comes down to several factors. Your setting mechanics (he probably hits a bit flatter than I do... generally), he might hit a bit higher or lower on the stringed than I do (if say he hits higher a he generally has much more weight at the top of his racquets, and I have more at 3 and 9 than he does - so he finds my racquets a bit cumbersome, even though his racquets can be 370g, so it's not a weight thing), and maybe even the type of grip you use (I think he uses a SW Forehand, but might be more towards the Eastern - kind of between the two or leaning towards Eastern... and I'm Semi-Western and sometimes Western on balls that are bouncing high on me).

Not sure if all the above makes sense, or if my assessment is correct, but I find we often don't like each other's set-ups... even though we are at similar levels and technical proficiencies.

Hope that was helpful.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Agreed on my end too - I have a shoulder / tennis elbow history, and had no problems with the PA98 with full poly

All I can say is that it can also come down to set-ups.

In this case (rather than my previous post to @topspn ), I tried my go-to setup with the PA98... and I found it a bit jarring and very cumbersome (I added weight to lots of parts of the head in small amounts, including 3 and 9).

I was not having the absolute best time with the racquet... I liked it and could see the potential through the fog of "just not right". Then I decided to remove the majority of the weight I had at 3 and 9 (we're talking going from 0.75g each location to 0.25g in each location), and re-locate it to what was already at 2 and 10 (all other things stayed the same - so no strung weight change... just the positioning of the weight in the head).

I now have the vast majority of the weight in the head at the 12, 2 and 10 regions (they are not completely touching... but they are closer to each other than on any of my other racquets).

The racquet now songs like Pavarotti on his best night. No jarring feeling, large sweet spot/zone, lots of tough, great control with lots of power... and the manoeuvrability has improved to no end (night and day). I'm loving it not!.

So... sometimes it's how it's set-up... and for me, most of the weight needs to be added to the tip on this one otherwise I'm not feeling with it 100% (whereas most other racquets, this is not the case, and I spread it more around).
 

topspn

G.O.A.T.
I didn’t even add weight to mine, just on the handle in the form of a leather grip. Both of mine are a healthy 330 and 331 SW strung with wasabi
 
All I can say is that it can also come down to set-ups.

In this case (rather than my previous post to @topspn ), I tried my go-to setup with the PA98... and I found it a bit jarring and very cumbersome (I added weight to lots of parts of the head in small amounts, including 3 and 9).

I was not having the absolute best time with the racquet... I liked it and could see the potential through the fog of "just not right". Then I decided to remove the majority of the weight I had at 3 and 9 (we're talking going from 0.75g each location to 0.25g in each location), and re-locate it to what was already at 2 and 10 (all other things stayed the same - so no strung weight change... just the positioning of the weight in the head).

I now have the vast majority of the weight in the head at the 12, 2 and 10 regions (they are not completely touching... but they are closer to each other than on any of my other racquets).

The racquet now songs like Pavarotti on his best night. No jarring feeling, large sweet spot/zone, lots of tough, great control with lots of power... and the manoeuvrability has improved to no end (night and day). I'm loving it not!.

So... sometimes it's how it's set-up... and for me, most of the weight needs to be added to the tip on this one otherwise I'm not feeling with it 100% (whereas most other racquets, this is not the case, and I spread it more around).
3 and 9 on this i felt like it helped the sweetspot a bit
 

y0035215

Rookie
I’m considering jumping ship from the Whiteout 18x20.

Aero 98 gives so much extra forgiveness against players who are better than me and I don’t lose anything against players who are at my level or below. It’s just less of a treat to use due to some mild clunkiness and less connected feel. But the off centre stability is just so good it really helps me stay in the point for a few extra shots.
What has actually become of these considerations regarding the pa98?
Why did you stay with the WO after all?
Background: I'm currently playing the PA98. I'm also satisfied with it. I just have the opportunity to buy a WO at a good price.
 

dr. godmode

Hall of Fame
What has actually become of these considerations regarding the pa98?
Why did you stay with the WO after all?
Background: I'm currently playing the PA98. I'm also satisfied with it. I just have the opportunity to buy a WO at a good price.
Have you watched my videos on YT? if so, you can probably see the deficiencies in my game. I often don't hit through the ball as much as I should. When I'm playing well, it's not too big of an issue, it's when I'm not playing great and I get lazy that it become detrimental. The PA98 pretty much forces me to hit straight through the ball and reminds me that I need to have a good weight transfer.

The reason I didn't stick with it is that it limits my creativity on court. I think if I was a tournament player and winning matches was my only priority, I would use the PA98, but I'm not and I don't care about winning. I like hitting curling forehands up the line, baiting my opponents with short slices and passing them. That's how I play tennis and the WO works so much better for me in that department and I don't think it costs me that much.

I also had a hard time serving with the PA98 and serve much better with the WO.
 

Tweener

Semi-Pro
Same for me, I don't understand what they are talking about, I've been using the racket for a year and never had a problem. And I had big elbow and shoulder problems before from Prostaff v13
Pretty much my experience as well. I started having elbow issues playing with the Pro Staff v13, then switched to the PA98/PAVS and almost instantly felt relief. All elbow pain was gone within weeks, and I continued playing 4-5 times per week with the PA98/PAVS without any time off. I recently played part of a match with my Pro Staff after breaking a string in the first set, and I actually felt some minor elbow pain the next day. I had a backup PA98, but I was in control of the match and wanted to scratch the itch of volleying with the PS. I'm never doing that again, the pro staffs are going on sale or in the closet. For reference, I use volkl cyclone 16 at 51lbs and it feels great. Not as satisfying on volleys as some others, but I really think elbow issues are highly individualized and the PA98 gets unwarranted criticism for being some kind of elbow killer.
 

Chuonfood

Semi-Pro
Pretty much my experience as well. I started having elbow issues playing with the Pro Staff v13, then switched to the PA98/PAVS and almost instantly felt relief. All elbow pain was gone within weeks, and I continued playing 4-5 times per week with the PA98/PAVS without any time off. I recently played part of a match with my Pro Staff after breaking a string in the first set, and I actually felt some minor elbow pain the next day. I had a backup PA98, but I was in control of the match and wanted to scratch the itch of volleying with the PS. I'm never doing that again, the pro staffs are going on sale or in the closet. For reference, I use volkl cyclone 16 at 51lbs and it feels great. Not as satisfying on volleys as some others, but I really think elbow issues are highly individualized and the PA98 gets unwarranted criticism for being some kind of elbow killer.
Since the PS97's are amazing at slicing, how does the PA98 hold up on it?
 
Hi, guys.
So, I’ve ditched the leather grip for a syn grip (Gamma Ultra Cushion). Right now, strung and carrying an overgrip and a dampener, my racquet weights 327g and when hanging, the handle falls about 45°. I don’t have the means to measure SW and I don’t have the racquet with me right now to measure the BP (sorry, I’m in a long trip to apply for internship).
So, that said, and considering the polarized profile of the Aero 98 as stated before by gurus like @Trip and @dr. godmode , I was wondering if I could add some lead at 3 and 9, keeping a HL balance, not exaggerating the SW (going over 330), but increasing forgiveness. Does that make sense? If so, how would you recommend this customization?
Not sure if you ever found a solution for this. I’m no expert on MGRi. Based on the previous posters’ description, it sounds to me like you should try de-polarising your racket. That would mean putting weight between the top of the handle and the bottom of the hoop (6 o’clock). Iirc think Arthur Fils does that to his PA98. For me, I feel that this position of lead tape (while not popular in these forums) give me a much better sense of where my racket face is, how fast the racket head is moving, etc. With polarised rackets, i get more power but less precision.

I currently use a PAVS. Tried switching to the Blade 98 V6 (older version is much stiffer with more power than newer blades) for the many reasons others have posted here, and while I’m enjoying using it more (probably just honeymoon phase with a new racket), my shot quality in a match is just poorer on average, unless I’m having a good day. The Blade requires me to really step in and hit driving shots with good weight transfer; that doesn’t happen often with good opponents that hit heavy, and even against weaker opponents my timing has to be good that day. On that same good day I’m able to hit driving winners with my PAVS anyway. Hence, decided to stick with my PAVS eventually (and work on coming to the net to finish the point, than aiming for lower margin drives from baseline).

Still considering a switch to PA98 (so I can get a proper matched pair; my 2 PAVS differ greatly in RA and it annoys me greatly) but concerned about it being more polarised.

Considering the PD98 too as I am interested in how a more powerful frame could fit my game — i generally prefer thin beamed but powerful frames with crisp feel; which is why the PD98 is so attractive as the thick beam has been the main reason i could never gel with PDs or even EZ98.

Also considering the Rad MP, but concerned it might be similar to my experience with the blade v6.
 
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Alcawrath

Professional
Any 1HB user having success with this frame ?
Yes. I've played over the last couple of years a Dunlop 300g OS, Pro Staff v11, blade v7 16x19, and now the PA98. I am hitting the best OHBH of my life with the PA98. I get power, spin, and accuracy with it. With a leather grip I was able to get it to the balance point that I wanted. It my not suit everyone's 1-hander, but my OHBH with it is one of the reasons I can't put it down.
 

Blade_X

Professional
Yes. I've played over the last couple of years a Dunlop 300g OS, Pro Staff v11, blade v7 16x19, and now the PA98. I am hitting the best OHBH of my life with the PA98. I get power, spin, and accuracy with it. With a leather grip I was able to get it to the balance point that I wanted. It my not suit everyone's 1-hander, but my OHBH with it is one of the reasons I can't put it down.
Have you measured your unstrung balance with the leather grip ?
 

Tweener

Semi-Pro
Since the PS97's are amazing at slicing, how does the PA98 hold up on it?
It took me a month or so to adjust. I had to learn to drive through a bit more, probably due to the lower weight. Once fully adjusted, I feel like I'm slicing better than ever. I have a OHBH and can easily hit flat and with slice at will with the PA98. Drop shots are a dream too, I just have to check myself sometimes because it's easy to think you're Alcaraz and attempt ill advised drop shots from time to time.
 

Blade_X

Professional
Do we have any aero 98 users coming from 98 inch boxed beams and gradually getting better and having more success with the more aerodynamic shape of aero 98 ?

Usually it’s very difficult for box beam / flat users and specially with 1HB to switch to sth else….not only thicker but also with the aero shape.
 
Do we have any aero 98 users coming from 98 inch boxed beams and gradually getting better and having more success with the more aerodynamic shape of aero 98 ?

Usually it’s very difficult for box beam / flat users and specially with 1HB to switch to sth else….not only thicker but also with the aero shape.
I switched from the PS 16x19 (3rd gen) and have a 1HB. Strike is kind of hybrid box shape?

I'm not sure if it's the aerodynamic shape of PA98 but I'm hitting with more power and spin. Had to give up some feel and control. 1BH slice was an easy transition, 1BH topspin took a summer of hitting to feel dialed. on BH still doesn't feel as connected as the PS but I'm happy with the shots it produces. Forehand and serve feel amazing.
 

iceman_dl6

Professional
I definitely agree to all saying the sweetspot is small. I have been tinkering with my PA98s since its release and I still can’t remedy that without it feeling like a baseball bat. The problem with this frame is the high stock twist weight which makes it tough to add weight at 3 and 9.
 

Holic

Semi-Pro
I definitely agree to all saying the sweetspot is small. I have been tinkering with my PA98s since its release and I still can’t remedy that without it feeling like a baseball bat. The problem with this frame is the high stock twist weight which makes it tough to add weight at 3 and 9.
Especially on 2hb where you want to "block" instead of power through the shot (forehand).
 

susari

New User
I definitely agree to all saying the sweetspot is small. I have been tinkering with my PA98s since its release and I still can’t remedy that without it feeling like a baseball bat. The problem with this frame is the high stock twist weight which makes it tough to add weight at 3 and 9.
I'm using 1.25mm string, put 3 rubber ring @2gr, 8" from butt
And 3gr lead tape @ butt

Feels nice with SW 334 and RW 170
 

nfantunes

New User
I'm still using the old version. The Pure Aero VS.
I'm playing with this model for about 2 years and felt that this racquet was made just for me
I play tennis since i was 8 years old and i'm currently 46 years old... All this years I played with a lot of good racquets (Pro Staff, Prestige, Blade, Vcore, etc) but never felt so connected as with this one.
It really suits my style of play and I just didn´t change for the new Pure Aero 98 because I don´t really like the cosmetic.
 

faded_lines

Rookie
I'm thinking about trying out the PA98. I've been playing with the EZ98 with 3g at 12 for over a year now. Although I'm playing well, also interested in trying other racquets. I usually string @ 48# on the EZ98, should I stick with 48# on the PA98 or go up in tension? Going to try it out stock first before mods.
 
I'm thinking about trying out the PA98. I've been playing with the EZ98 with 3g at 12 for over a year now. Although I'm playing well, also interested in trying other racquets. I usually string @ 48# on the EZ98, should I stick with 48# on the PA98 or go up in tension? Going to try it out stock first before mods.
I would string both up fresh at the same tension and compare side to side
 

Honza

Semi-Pro
Why would you go up in tension with a smaller sweetspot? Just try the same tension.
String pattern in center is tighter in the 22 Ezone 98, so you might break faster.

2 completely different sticks. I went the other way.
 

cg50

New User
Love this racquet! Manage to get 4 matched ones from the auction site for under $500. Was planning on flipping them, but instead strung one up and that was the end of racquet testing for me. Love that it has amazing control, hits topspin and flat balls well also. The biggest gripe with it is I don't feel that it slices particularly well. But my ROS and ability to play offense have definitely improved.

I strung mine with Tourna S7T 1.3 @ 50 x Tourna BHS 1.25 @ 48
 

kblades

Semi-Pro
Love this racquet! Manage to get 4 matched ones from the auction site for under $500. Was planning on flipping them, but instead strung one up and that was the end of racquet testing for me. Love that it has amazing control, hits topspin and flat balls well also. The biggest gripe with it is I don't feel that it slices particularly well. But my ROS and ability to play offense have definitely improved.

I strung mine with Tourna S7T 1.3 @ 50 x Tourna BHS 1.25 @ 48
It’s funny you mentioned the slice, that’s the only shot I haven’t been able to figure out with it yet either. It’s indoor season where I’m at, so I’ve been mainly playing leagues for the past few months since I picked up the PA98. I’m hoping the weather will break soon so I can start drilling with my machine and try to figure out the slice.
 

cg50

New User
It’s funny you mentioned the slice, that’s the only shot I haven’t been able to figure out with it yet either. It’s indoor season where I’m at, so I’ve been mainly playing leagues for the past few months since I picked up the PA98. I’m hoping the weather will break soon so I can start drilling with my machine and try to figure out the slice.
Yeah, the slice is a huge part of my game. Not sure if it's the thickness of the frame or the grip size. But it's not been amazing. However was doing some work with my coach yesterday and realized if I sliced down the middle/back rather than the outside of the ball, I get the "bite" that I'm used to seeing with other racquets. I think the frame encourages you to move forward through the slice rather than let your body weight fade away so the side or backward.
 

faded_lines

Rookie
That's very interesting, I picked up a pair of PA98 from a local club member and I restrung one of them with Toroline K-Pro @ 48# and found that my slices stays low and skids. I do agree though, this is definitely an offensive weapon. The more I attack, the more confidence I gain, and the harder I swing out. I've always jived with 16x20 string patterns and had good success (VC95, Elevates, etc). Just coming from the EZ98 though (not 16x20 pattern), it took a little time to adjust, as the PA98 is not as whippy and forces you to hit through the ball which produces a more penetration shot through the court. So far, pretty impressed. Can't wait to see how it feels during match play.
 

Thiemster

Rookie
That's very interesting, I picked up a pair of PA98 from a local club member and I restrung one of them with Toroline K-Pro @ 48# and found that my slices stays low and skids. I do agree though, this is definitely an offensive weapon. The more I attack, the more confidence I gain, and the harder I swing out. I've always jived with 16x20 string patterns and had good success (VC95, Elevates, etc). Just coming from the EZ98 though (not 16x20 pattern), it took a little time to adjust, as the PA98 is not as whippy and forces you to hit through the ball which produces a more penetration shot through the court. So far, pretty impressed. Can't wait to see how it feels during match play.

Very curious what you think of the comparison between EZ98 and PA98. I m looking at switching to one of them and not very sure which one has a better sweet spot or more in other words forgiveness outside of sweetspot.
 

faded_lines

Rookie
The EZ98 is an easier racquet to use for sure. It's been my main racquet for about a year now and been playing well with it. It's whippier which allow you to create angles and loopier shots. Serves are effortless, as you can just snap your wrist to create nasty slice serves and powerful flat serves. I don't have the best kick serves, but I'd say the whipper nature of the racquet help me snap through contact. I have 3g of lead @ 12 and that brings the SW up to 320 with 17g strings.

With the PA98, I feel like it forces you to swing through the ball more which produces a more penetrating shot through the court. This could be related to the swing weight of the PA98 is higher. Mine came in stock at 331sw with OG and dampener. But I'm loving heavier balls I'm able to hit so far.
 

AA7

Hall of Fame
The EZ98 is an easier racquet to use for sure. It's been my main racquet for about a year now and been playing well with it. It's whippier which allow you to create angles and loopier shots. Serves are effortless, as you can just snap your wrist to create nasty slice serves and powerful flat serves. I don't have the best kick serves, but I'd say the whipper nature of the racquet help me snap through contact. I have 3g of lead @ 12 and that brings the SW up to 320 with 17g strings.

With the PA98, I feel like it forces you to swing through the ball more which produces a more penetrating shot through the court. This could be related to the swing weight of the PA98 is higher. Mine came in stock at 331sw with OG and dampener. But I'm loving heavier balls I'm able to hit so far.
Did you try weighing up your ez98 to see if it hits a similar ball?
 
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