Pure Aero Rafa Origin 2023

Aestheticsaboveallelse said:
Nadal has been losing all the time lately and had to take advantage of a cramping jack yesterday, so this racquet sucks. Look elsewhere.
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Thanks so much for the unbiased, informative review. So often i get tied up by the marketing, paid influencers, etc that i don’t actually get the honest feedback of what a racquet is capable of.
Something like this, quick to read, straight to the point makes it much easier for me to decide in this jungle that is racquet selection.

I will avoid this racquet like the plague. I’d hate to have any struggles against a player like Draper. Straight sets against a mug like that or I might as well not even play the game
 
Curtennis said:
Thanks so much for the unbiased, informative review. So often i get tied up by the marketing, paid influencers, etc that i don’t actually get the honest feedback of what a racquet is capable of.
Something like this, quick to read, straight to the point makes it much easier for me to decide in this jungle that is racquet selection.

I will avoid this racquet like the plague. I’d hate to have any struggles against a player like Draper. Straight sets against a mug like that or I might as well not even play the game
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You're welcome!
 
sorry for the multiple pots...

watched youtube highlight, he's playing with the Rafa racquet that is currently on sale. He is not playing with the racquet with the new colors (Rafa origin), which is not currently for sale... but sounds like it is coming in 2023.
 
marceloriosfan said:
sorry for the multiple pots...

watched youtube highlight, he's playing with the Rafa racquet that is currently on sale. He is not playing with the racquet with the new colors (Rafa origin), which is not currently for sale... but sounds like it is coming in 2023.
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yeah but he used Origin at United Cup

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Curtennis said:
Thanks so much for the unbiased, informative review. So often i get tied up by the marketing, paid influencers, etc that i don’t actually get the honest feedback of what a racquet is capable of.
Something like this, quick to read, straight to the point makes it much easier for me to decide in this jungle that is racquet selection.

I will avoid this racquet like the plague. I’d hate to have any struggles against a player like Draper. Straight sets against a mug like that or I might as well not even play the game
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Walp, straight sets loss to Mcdonald. Thats the last nail in the coffin, this racquet officially sucks undeniably. Causing the legendary Nadal to lose to scrubs now. Glad I warned you guys and that you wisely chose to avoid it like the plague.
 
Djinn said:
RF is 333 SW strung, approximately 303 SW UNstrung. Rafa Origin will be around 330 SW UNstrung.
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tolerance for specs being as wild as it is, im sure some big boys will sneak in, but as a not particularly strong lanky teen, I happily used a Pure Drive Roddick + with a 340+ swingweight happily enough so 330ish is fine swingweight wise imo
 
Djinn said:
RF is 333 SW strung, approximately 303 SW UNstrung. Rafa Origin will be around 330 SW UNstrung.
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Yes sorry, I mixed that up.

Worse than the lanky teens, I imagine some of the 40 year old Rafa fans will get that racket
but if you are a seniors players with a bum shoulder and/or elbow - that will haunt people
 
Could be that it has the same pattern as the ‘23 PA. When I tried fitting the APD grommets to the ’23 PA (8T 8H) the only ones that fit was (bottom) at 6, 3-9 (woofer) I thought at 7-5 would fit (side throat) but the drill pattern was slightly different there. As for the APD bumperguard, I had a drill an another hole where the grommet sinks in. Ended up using the ‘23 PA grommets with the APD BG for the top portion. Anyway, as for the woofer, it looks like the APD to mẹ cause it’s kinda pronounced imo. Also the beam of the APD is slightly thicker (AeroModular1) compared to ‘16 PA (AM2) and ‘19/23 PA (AM3) thinner/more aerodynamic as the new models came out.
 
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Fot normal rec players Isn't this going to be like signing up for tennis elbow?
Esp they try and mirror rafas setup with the rpm blast

If as many people use this as the rf97 autograph, it could be really bad for them?

Hiw would it compare to the pure drive on the tennis elbow front?
 
Eh it’s kinda like the RF. I probably see the 3.0-3.5 crowd using it the most. Is it killing their arm probably but I think the origin will have similar aspect to it. Personally, if it really like the APD that Rafa uses I’ll add it to my collection and not hit with it I was worried about the Woofer grommets as well
 
Weight/Swing weight does not kill arms. Can anyone share the way a heavier racquet will hurt the elbow? Are you like snapping your arm out to lock your elbow mid swing and the extra weight is going to do it?

From a pure logic standpoint, one thing causes tennis elbow and that’s the impact of the ball on the racquet. Assuming equal form, the racquet’s traits will decide how much of that impact stays in the racquet versus transfers into the body. The more weight in the racquet, the less noticeable impact there will be, not more. Split 6 or so grams at 9-3 on your current racquet and see how much cleaner you go through the ball. It’s heavenly.
 
Yep, the only downside I've found recently with longer, heavier racquets has been some minor wrist strain through trying to control the racquet as my muscles atrophy with age; pain from impact is definitely mitigated, as you mention.
 
Curtennis said:
Weight/Swing weight does not kill arms. Can anyone share the way a heavier racquet will hurt the elbow? Are you like snapping your arm out to lock your elbow mid swing and the extra weight is going to do it?

From a pure logic standpoint, one thing causes tennis elbow and that’s the impact of the ball on the racquet. Assuming equal form, the racquet’s traits will decide how much of that impact stays in the racquet versus transfers into the body. The more weight in the racquet, the less noticeable impact there will be, not more. Split 6 or so grams at 9-3 on your current racquet and see how much cleaner you go through the ball. It’s heavenly.
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An excessively heavy racquet puts you at risk of technique breakdown and/or hitting the ball late. Hitting the ball late or hitting with bad technique puts you at risk of TE/golfers elbow.

the heavier mass does very little to compensate for the harm caused from hitting late.
 
Jay_The_Nomad said:
An excessively heavy racquet puts you at risk of technique breakdown and/or hitting the ball late. Hitting the ball late or hitting with bad technique puts you at risk of TE/golfers elbow.

the heavier mass does very little to compensate for the harm caused from hitting late.
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If technique is that broke down, and you’re consistently mishitting, hitting late, whatever, it sounds like the match is going to be over sooner rather than later thus preserving your arm even further :-D
seriously tho how is someone going to go out to hit for a couple hours and hit poorly the entire time and not just put down the racquet? This seems like a manufactured concern.

if technique was that bad they’d either stop, or start figuring it out. They’re not going to play like crap 3 days a week for 3 months until they develop chronic arm pain.
 
Curtennis said:
If technique is that broke down, and you’re consistently mishitting, hitting late, whatever, it sounds like the match is going to be over sooner rather than later thus preserving your arm even further :-D
seriously tho how is someone going to go out to hit for a couple hours and hit poorly the entire time and not just put down the racquet? This seems like a manufactured concern.

if technique was that bad they’d either stop, or start figuring it out. They’re not going to play like crap 3 days a week for 3 months until they develop chronic arm pain.
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what happens is the technique break down and late hitting is only very marginal that some players might not even notice until it’s too late. And unfortunately that is enough to cause tendinitis. Particularly if you have a high volume of play time, hit against high level hard hitters and have a shorter take back with a very explosive motion. These players are better off with a much lighter racquet.

But I suspect that isn’t the type of player you are. You are probably an older player that hits with a longer old school swing that accelerates more evenly through contact. That probably explains why a heavier racquet might sort of work for you. Also the extra weight would feel much better at the net. But I can guarantee you that if your technique is better you can probably drop the weight by 15g.
 
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Actually my strokes are modern; semi western lefty Badal wannabe forehand with heavy windshield wiper down & right follow through & Thiem wannabe one hander - I gym too.
It’s interesting how heavy - both static and SW - Noleg’s (and Fed’s and Nadal’s to some extent for that matter) racquets are given how many Next Gen forehand elements are a part of his swing.
I guess once they’re retired the also rans will finally become dominant & validate the lighter is better theory to some extent, at least for ground strokes anyway.
 
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I need dis ting. Haven't even been thinking about it but this morning I had a dream I was with Nadal which didn't seem unusual at all perfectly normal and he let me have his primary racquet which surprised me in dream cause I thought he'd have superstitions about that like everything else. I asked is this the origin cause it had the paint job and I was hoping its an origin. Federer then was there too they wandered off, I left the racquet on ground for a sec knowing no one around is interested and walked away and it disappeared and I was frustrated whered it go?!
 
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