Pure Drive follow up

Hi, I'm a competitive 14 year old who currently plays with a pure drive, and I am looking at possibilities for my future racquet. Something maybe around 11.5 ounces, a bit less stiff than the pure drive (I think that's what I mean; around 68 I guess on the stiffness rating), standard length and playability not too different from the pure drive. A few new ones I have my eye on (some aren't out yet; I think they're due out in March): babolat pure drive roddick, yonex rds 001, wilson nblade (don't know much about that one) and head flexpoint prestige. Any thoughts? Thanks!
 

Two Fister

Rookie
I am mentally tough! said:
Hi, I'm a competitive 14 year old who currently plays with a pure drive, and I am looking at possibilities for my future racquet. Something maybe around 11.5 ounces, a bit less stiff than the pure drive (I think that's what I mean; around 68 I guess on the stiffness rating), standard length and playability not too different from the pure drive. A few new ones I have my eye on (some aren't out yet; I think they're due out in March): babolat pure drive roddick, yonex rds 001, wilson nblade (don't know much about that one) and head flexpoint prestige. Any thoughts? Thanks!
Don't know about the Flexpoint prestige, but if it plays like the LM Prestige or the intelligence prestige, it will hit a lot different than your puredrive. Not saying that is bad, just different.

Why are you considering changing racquets? One thing you might try is a bit of lead tape on your puredrive at 3 and 9 and in the grip. It'll play like a heavier racquet yet you can still get good head speed for spin if that's how you play.
 
Two Fister said:
Don't know about the Flexpoint prestige, but if it plays like the LM Prestige or the intelligence prestige, it will hit a lot different than your puredrive. Not saying that is bad, just different.

Why are you considering changing racquets? One thing you might try is a bit of lead tape on your puredrive at 3 and 9 and in the grip. It'll play like a heavier racquet yet you can still get good head speed for spin if that's how you play.
Thanks for the lead tape idea! I haven't really thought about that. I like my pure drives, just maybe looking for a little change. When you said to put the lead tape "in the grip" what exactly do you mean? I've never used any before. I play with some spin.
 

Two Fister

Rookie
I am mentally tough! said:
When you said to put the lead tape "in the grip" what exactly do you mean? I've never used any before.
Some folks open the bottom of the handle by taking the butt cap off and put weight in the handle. Others just put a few strips under their grip. This changes the shape slightly and increases the size, so it is better to do it the other way, but if you are just experimenting with weight, you might want to try under the grip first.
 
I am mentally tough! said:
Hi, I'm a competitive 14 year old who currently plays with a pure drive, and I am looking at possibilities for my future racquet. Something maybe around 11.5 ounces, a bit less stiff than the pure drive (I think that's what I mean; around 68 I guess on the stiffness rating), standard length and playability not too different from the pure drive. A few new ones I have my eye on (some aren't out yet; I think they're due out in March): babolat pure drive roddick, yonex rds 001, wilson nblade (don't know much about that one) and head flexpoint prestige. Any thoughts? Thanks!
How about the aerpro drive? Seems like the exact specs you described.
 

Marius_Hancu

Talk Tennis Guru
Ultra2HolyGrail said:
Id stick with the pure drive. As a junior you should be fine with stiff racquets. Enjoy them while your young.
You mean start destroying your tendons and ligaments while young? Because that's RSI (Repetitive Strain Injury, do a search at Yahoo on it), sometimes it never disappears, once installed.

I know the former 3rd junior in the world, with Babolat she had huge probs at 16 (TE). She wouldn't have become a pro, had she continued with it. She would've left tennis.

That's valid with all stiff racquets.

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http://www.tennis-elbow.net/tenniselbow.htm

The damage that tennis elbow incurs consists of tiny tears in a part of the tendon and in muscle coverings. After the initial injury heals, these areas often tear again, which leads to hemorrhaging and the formation of rough, granulated tissue and calcium deposits within the surrounding tissues. Collagen, a protein, leaks out from around the injured areas, causing inflammation. The resulting pressure can cut off the blood flow and pinch the radial nerve, one of the major nerves controlling muscles in the arm and hand.

Tendons, which attach muscles to bones, do not receive the same amount of oxygen and blood that muscles do, so they heal more slowly. In fact, some cases of tennis elbow can last for years, though the inflammation usually subsides in 6 to 12 weeks.
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Ultra2HolyGrail

Hall of Fame
Thanks for that information marius..Did she have a 1handed backhand?
Do you think you are at a higher risk of TE using a 1-handed backhand?

I still find it odd that so many babolat proffesionals can play so much tennis for years and not have injuries.
 
Everybody has always told me that I shouldn't go for too heavy of a racquet to avoid shoulder problems, because I'm still in a growth period. This is the first time I hear that light, head-heavy and stiff racquets could provoke tennis elbow. This is interesting, but leaves me in a sort of a predicament.:confused:
I don't think I've yet had any trouble with tennis elbow but it is defintely something to avoid. On the other hand, I have had minor problems with my shoulder.
 

Marius_Hancu

Talk Tennis Guru
I am mentally tough! said:
Everybody has always told me that I shouldn't go for too heavy of a racquet to avoid shoulder problems, because I'm still in a growth period. This is the first time I hear that light, head-heavy and stiff racquets could provoke tennis elbow. This is interesting, but leaves me in a sort of a predicament.:confused:
I don't think I've yet had any trouble with tennis elbow but it is defintely something to avoid. On the other hand, I have had minor problems with my shoulder.
check:
# What Causes Tennis Elbow?
# Is a Lightweight Racquet a Good Idea?
etc, at:
http://www.racquetresearch.com
educate yourself

Also, start reading the threads on "elbow" and "shoulder" in the Health section.
 

Marius_Hancu

Talk Tennis Guru
Ultra2HolyGrail said:
I still find it odd that so many babolat proffesionals can play so much tennis for years and not have injuries.
such as Kim Clijsters, operated on her wrist 3 times, eh?
 
Sorry by accident I sent my message twice so I tried deleting it but it doesn't let me edit and save with nothing on it so this post is a complete waste. By the way, is there any way to completely get rid of a message you just posted? Sorry for wasting your time.:neutral:
 
Hey Marius,
I've been researching and looking at different options and I think i've found a pretty cool solution; it won't happen right away, though. What if I customized a racquet on ---, hopefully you know what I mean (I like tenniswarehouse and respect that they don't want us promoting competition, even though tw and --- don't really overlap), and it will be something like this:
length: 27 in
weight: 11.4 oz (unstrung)
balance: 10 pts. headlight
stiffness: 63
What do you think about this? Thanks a lot for your help!
 

Two Fister

Rookie
Marius_Hancu said:
nope, Kim's still with the Control, I guess, or a paintjob
Kim should be using the PureDrive, not the Control painted like a puredrive. If you look at the photos of her at the Aus Open, you can see the hallmark roundish profile of the beams and hoop of her racquet as well as the thickness of the hoop. The Control has a more squared off profile which paint would not be able to disguise.
 

mark1

Semi-Pro
mentally tough. in my opinion the best frame for you at least to try out would be an o3 tour. it has good enough weight to not be pushed around, but it still has a little pop available and swings really light for its weight. it would give you a perfect combo of weight and power for someone your age. i highly recommend a demo.
 
mark1 said:
mentally tough. in my opinion the best frame for you at least to try out would be an o3 tour. it has good enough weight to not be pushed around, but it still has a little pop available and swings really light for its weight. it would give you a perfect combo of weight and power for someone your age. i highly recommend a demo.
The Pusher Terminator said:
How about the aerpro drive? Seems like the exact specs you described.
Thanks for the recommendations! I'll give them a test drive, in hope that i'll get my hands on them sooner or later.
 

zorg

Professional
In that site, Marius, it said how heavy Sampras's racket was. What if failed to say, however, was how stiff it was.
 

timmyboy

Professional
for some reason, i cope with my shoulder pain when hitting rather than complain. it goes away after a while.
 

zorg

Professional
timmyboy said:
for some reason, i cope with my shoulder pain when hitting rather than complain. it goes away after a while.
Lol, yeah, ppl complain sometimes too much. However, if they can't play tennis because of the pain, we might have a problem there...
 
Have been browsing around and have heard some good things about the yonex rdx 500. Was in a shop today and swung it around a little; it felt nice. Any thoughts? Would probably go with the MP.
I guess I would like something tamer than the pure drive, but I'm also afraid that if I get something with low stiffness the ball won't go anywhere (exactly what I experienced when hitting with the flexpoint radical).
Also, I don't know absolutely anything about it but the idea of the prestige classic 600 apeals to me. Might be a bit heavy though. Also it seems like it would be hard to find. It's kind of weird that everyone goes crazy about these new "technologies", meanwhile the pros are using racquets made in the 1980s!
 
The resurrection of my first thread!

Hey guys,

hopefully some of you will see this before my thread disappears again...

Anyway, I finally got my hands on some racquets (Prince racquets) and thought I might give my opinion on them. Yesterday, I played with an interesting racquet called the O3 Copper, a 27.5 inch, 295 swingweight, 10.4 ounce (unstrung, I believe), and 13 inch balance (I'm going from memory, cuz I saw the specs on the inside of the neck), 107 sq. inch head. Not exactly my ideal specs, but boy it was fun to play with! It was really fun to go for shots with, however it did not have the control I was looking for. Also, as I am used to standard length racquets, the extra length made it harder to get around. It had a very soft, buttery feel, unlike my pure drive. Nice serves, though, and all in all a nice racquet, though probably not gonna be my permanent choice.

Then today, I walked on court with some more serious racquets; the O3 White and O3 Tour. I started out with the White, and as I warmed up at the baseline, I was not feeling very good with it. Not at all the soft feel of the Copper. But as we got warmed up, and we started to play points out, I began playing much more agressive, and... WOW! Awesome depth and power, decent control and especially fun to hit flat! Did not feel great spin, but when I was relaxed and just going for my shots, attacking and hitting the ball early, I really played great! I liked the trampoline response, and no complaints on serves or volleys either. Might think about putting some lead if I decide to switch, but I really enjoyed the O3 White.

Finally, I hit with the Tour, and I have to say I was very dissappointed. Completely out of sink to me. Maybe the string, or maybe me, but unfortunately I did not enjoy this racquet.

For now, I have to say I enjoyed the White the most. Hope this is useful. Any more comments or suggestions appreciated! (By the way, my shoulder which is usually a bit sore after tennis feels fine!):D
 

tennis-skater

Semi-Pro
Yeah i had a babolat pd and i just switched to the dunlop m-fil 300 its great i think it hits like the pd just with a little bit less power but more control you shoul demo it
 

yvp

Rookie
I changed from PD to LM Prestige MP some time ago, was no problem in the transition period which was aproximately 5 minutes.I found the grove easily on my groundstrokes with the LMP, amazing control compared to the rocket launcher.Serves were a little slower and spin was noticeably reduced, but again lots of control.
4 months later, I can say that the prestige is the best rac I've ever picked up.
 

TEAM ZERO

Rookie
If Clijsters is really using a Pure Control then we can check the string pattern coz the control is different to the drive! control has 16x20, drive is 16x19

I've used the Pure Drive Plus for nearly a year with lead at 2 and 10 but havent had any problems... and i play 4-6 times a week! Should I expect any problem arising in the future!?
 

Marius_Hancu

Talk Tennis Guru
I am mentally tough! said:
Hey Marius,
I've been researching and looking at different options and I think i've found a pretty cool solution; it won't happen right away, though. What if I customized a racquet on ---, hopefully you know what I mean (I like tenniswarehouse and respect that they don't want us promoting competition, even though tw and --- don't really overlap), and it will be something like this:
length: 27 in
weight: 11.4 oz (unstrung)
balance: 10 pts. headlight
stiffness: 63
What do you think about this? Thanks a lot for your help!
Sounds good to me!
 
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