Pure Strike 2024

[Trip]

I am hoping for it to be a combination of the softness and spin potential of the Clash, and the consistency of the Speed and my old Pure Strike 98.

Seems like specs are everything I want. Low stiffness rating, 7 points HL, and a swing weight that should make it maneuverable.

Seems reasonable to expect, albeit the Babolat layups -- excluding maybe the PSVS/Strike97 -- haven't really ever been all that soft over the last 4-5 generations, so even with a supposed 61RA reported by TW (which I'm going to guess is probably 2-4RA lower than actual), the 100 16x20 is probably still going to be noticeably more firm and crisp/raw/transmissive than any Clash, v2's included. That said, I'd wager that the 16x20 should offer enough flex and dampening that with a proper string setup and enough recoil weight, most any player should find it comfortable enough.

Also, if balance and swing weight figures are already in the "hmm" range for you, then I would highly, highly (can I say highly one more time?) recommend that if you do pull the trigger, you just budget the extra $20 and place the order by phone, directly through TW's MRT department, requesting they find you the most on-spec, or even slightly under-spec, frame(s) possible. You can of course the roll the dice, too, but going through the brain damage of dealing with the far ends of the bell curve just isn't worth the relatively small savings, IMHO, especially when you already know that you're somewhat sensitive to the average spec as it is. Just my two cents, from experience.

 

[netlets]

Seems reasonable to expect, albeit the Babolat layups -- excluding maybe the PSVS/Strike97 -- haven't really ever been all that soft over the last 4-5 generations, so even with a supposed 61RA reported by TW (which I'm going to guess is probably 2-4RA lower than actual), the 100 16x20 is probably still going to be noticeably more firm and crisp/raw/transmissive than any Clash, v2's included. That said, I'd wager that the 16x20 should offer enough flex and dampening that with a proper string setup and enough recoil weight, most any player should find it comfortable enough.

Also, if balance and swing weight figures are already in the "hmm" range for you, then I would highly, highly (can I say highly one more time?) recommend that if you do pull the trigger, you just budget the extra $20 and place the order by phone, directly through TW's MRT department, requesting they find you the most on-spec, or even slightly under-spec, frame(s) possible. You can of course the roll the dice, too, but going through the brain damage of dealing with the far ends of the bell curve just isn't worth the relatively small savings, IMHO, especially when you already know that you're somewhat sensitive to the average spec as it is. Just my two cents, from experience.

This is excellent advice. For my last PS98s I used the matching service. Almost all of the racquets they had were over spec and they ended up sending me some racquets from another location. The swingweight is the most important thing to me - also grip size being on spec. It's annoying when one of the grips in your bag is a size larger. Especially if the swing weight is at the top of your preference, you really need to use the service. Through experience, most of the racquets that are not in spec are heavier in swing weight, not lighter.

 

[AZJ1973]

This is excellent advice. For my last PS98s I used the matching service. Almost all of the racquets they had were over spec and they ended up sending me some racquets from another location. The swingweight is the most important thing to me - also grip size being on spec. It's annoying when one of the grips in your bag is a size larger. Especially if the swing weight is at the top of your preference, you really need to use the service. Through experience, most of the racquets that are not in spec are heavier in swing weight, not lighter.

Yes. Thank you for the advice. So when you pay extra for the matching service you can not only get frames that spec out the same, you can also ask them to find certain frames that have a certain spec?

 

[netlets]

Yes. Thank you for the advice. So when you pay extra for the matching service you can not only get frames that spec out the same, you can also ask them to find certain frames that have a certain spec?

Yes. I was looking for 328 swing weight and most were over 330. They did find 2 for me though.

 

[Fighting phoenix]

Played doubles today - second time playing with the 100s - this time it was indoors, and not playing in the cold really allowed me to notice the difference in flex between these two racquets. The 16x20 was noticeably flexible - definitely more so than the 16x19, and it really felt like a 61 RA stick. The 16x19 was stiffer (but still more comfortable than the previous generation) and that really came through on firmer volleys and more power from the baseline. It took me a few games to get used to the feel of the 16x20, but when I did I have to say that it's really something else - firm, stable, but comfortable and the added flex and stringbed really allowed me to play with touch and feel, and feel confident that I could swing out and keep the ball in the court. The 16x19 was also a good racquet, but isn't that different I don't think from how I remembered the 16x19 98 gen 3 Pure Strike I used to play with - it was more flexible, but felt like a 100 in version of that racquet, whereas the 16x20 feels like an altogether different, special racquet.

Excited to get a little more time with the 16x20 tomorrow night before having to ship these demos back. This could beat out the Pure Aeros to be my racquet of choice for 2024.

 

[Trip]

@Fighting phoenix - Great feedback, especially on the eve of receiving my 100" 16x20 TW play test frame. I look forward to being able to benchmark it against certain frames that have similar on-paper specs. For example: my VCP 97D has a listed 61RA, and actually plays true to its rating (IMHO anyways), so that will be a good real-world reference point. For the string bed, I'll be keen on comparing the 100" 16x20 to a 100" 18x20 (2019 TT100P) and 99" 16x19 (Auxetic 1.0 Prestige MP-L), which together kind of straddle the pattern pretty well... Looking forward to this!

 

[topspn]

Played doubles today - second time playing with the 100s - this time it was indoors, and not playing in the cold really allowed me to notice the difference in flex between these two racquets. The 16x20 was noticeably flexible - definitely more so than the 16x19, and it really felt like a 61 RA stick. The 16x19 was stiffer (but still more comfortable than the previous generation) and that really came through on firmer volleys and more power from the baseline. It took me a few games to get used to the feel of the 16x20, but when I did I have to say that it's really something else - firm, stable, but comfortable and the added flex and stringbed really allowed me to play with touch and feel, and feel confident that I could swing out and keep the ball in the court. The 16x19 was also a good racquet, but isn't that different I don't think from how I remembered the 16x19 98 gen 3 Pure Strike I used to play with - it was more flexible, but felt like a 100 in version of that racquet, whereas the 16x20 feels like an altogether different, special racquet.

Excited to get a little more time with the 16x20 tomorrow night before having to ship these demos back. This could beat out the Pure Aeros to be my racquet of choice for 2024.

Ugh, there goes my money on a purchase. Lucky you to have some indoor hitting. Your demo was probably strung @52lbs so I wonder how you’d feel if strung a bit lower around 50

 

[Holic]

Played doubles today - second time playing with the 100s - this time it was indoors, and not playing in the cold really allowed me to notice the difference in flex between these two racquets. The 16x20 was noticeably flexible - definitely more so than the 16x19, and it really felt like a 61 RA stick. The 16x19 was stiffer (but still more comfortable than the previous generation) and that really came through on firmer volleys and more power from the baseline. It took me a few games to get used to the feel of the 16x20, but when I did I have to say that it's really something else - firm, stable, but comfortable and the added flex and stringbed really allowed me to play with touch and feel, and feel confident that I could swing out and keep the ball in the court. The 16x19 was also a good racquet, but isn't that different I don't think from how I remembered the 16x19 98 gen 3 Pure Strike I used to play with - it was more flexible, but felt like a 100 in version of that racquet, whereas the 16x20 feels like an altogether different, special racquet.

Excited to get a little more time with the 16x20 tomorrow night before having to ship these demos back. This could beat out the Pure Aeros to be my racquet of choice for 2024.

Hey, I guess you mean 16x19 100 Gen3. Otherwise you are comparing the 100 16x19 Gen 4 with 98 16x19 Gen3, which doesnt make sense.

 

[kl2963]

The most powerful among control oriented sticks is 2-3 months away launch. PJ changes will remain as minimal as possible.

Not a fan of the new Strike. New PJ is limited and does not look good to me.

 

[Casper777]

Not too convinced either... went with a new Tecnifibre TFight ISO 300 instead since I think those have everything that the Babolat is lacking especially feel and comfort.

 

[Fighting phoenix]

Hey, I guess you mean 16x19 100 Gen3. Otherwise you are comparing the 100 16x19 Gen 4 with 98 16x19 Gen3, which doesnt make sense.

I never played with the 100 gen 3, just the 98 for about five years (gen 2 and 3), and all I was saying was that it felt similar to that racquet, like an old familiarity. If you play with the same racquet for five years without holicing and switching all the time, you can feel similarities like that. Sorry that doesn’t make sense to you.

 

[Holic]

I never played with the 100 gen 3, just the 98 for about five years (gen 2 and 3), and all I was saying was that it felt similar to that racquet, like an old familiarity. If you play with the same racquet for five years without holicing and switching all the time, you can feel similarities like that. Sorry that doesn’t make sense to you.

Ye sorry, I guess it doesnt make sense to me to compare different string patterns and headsizes.

 

[Fighting phoenix]

Ye sorry, I guess it doesnt make sense to me to compare different string patterns and headsizes.

Silos like the PA98 and the regular PA, while similar, have very different beam widths which make them play differently. The PS 98 and 100, in the 16x19 string pattern, have the same beam width and are otherwise extremely similar outside of the larger head size. To me, the 100 16x19 felt like a more forgiving (ie larger headsize) version of the 98 that I played with for many years. So making that observation makes sense to me.

 

[Holic]

Silos like the PA98 and the regular PA, while similar, have very different beam widths which make them play differently. The PS 98 and 100, in the 16x19 string pattern, have the same beam width and are otherwise extremely similar outside of the larger head size. To me, the 100 16x19 felt like a more forgiving (ie larger headsize) version of the 98 that I played with for many years. So making that observation makes sense to me.

This observation makes sense. It has to be more forgiving than the 98, thats why it was produced in the first place. However the Ps 98 and 100 have different string patterns, 98 = tight 16x19 and 100 = open 16x19 so they produce different launch angles. These differences in launch angles can alter the gameplan of a player as well as the string choices to tame or not the launch. Thats why they are not comparable to me. Although the new 100 16x19 has fsi control, which translates into tighter string pattern, that could mean that since the new 100 16x19 Gen 4 has a tighter string pattern then it could be comparable to 98 16x19 Gen 3. This could be what you were experiencing.

 

[Trip]

@Fighting phoenix - Thank you for your continued feedback. Any info is valuable, regardless of how the comparison is made.

 

[Fighting phoenix]

This observation makes sense. It has to be more forgiving than the 98, thats why it was produced in the first place. However the Ps 98 and 100 have different string patterns, 98 = tight 16x19 and 100 = open 16x19 so they produce different launch angles. These differences in launch angles can alter the gameplan of a player as well as the string choices to tame or not the launch. Thats why they are not comparable to me. Although the new 100 16x19 has fsi control, which translates into tighter string pattern, that could mean that since the new 100 16x19 Gen 4 has a tighter string pattern then it could be comparable to 98 16x19 Gen 3. This could be what you were experiencing.

Yes, I understand that they are still different racquets. My only point is that they felt similar to me w/r to feel and muscle memory/familiarity. The larger point I was trying to make was that the 16x20, probably more to do with it being more flexible and maybe some of the new technologies, felt really different to the current 100 16x19 and from what I remember of the V3 98.

 

[Chairman3]

@Kozzy anymore updates of the PSVS v. the PStrike 97, or did you already send it back?

 

[Kozzy]

@Kozzy anymore updates of the PSVS v. the PStrike 97, or did you already send it back?

I don't have more updates as the one hit was enough for me to see it's basically the same racquet, with a little more dampening. It's on the way back. Sorry about that! At some point I may get one, but not sure if I'll bother since I love the PSVS so much as is.

 

[Chairman3]

I don't have more updates as the one hit was enough for me to see it's basically the same racquet, with a little more dampening. It's on the way back. Sorry about that! At some point I may get one, but not sure if I'll bother since I love the PSVS so much as is.

Nope, fair enough.
I intend to demo myself as "dampening" is only something you can experience and know if it's tolerable.
Glad to know they didn't wreck a good formula or discontinue altogether.

 

[ulunxtns]

Not too convinced either... went with a new Tecnifibre TFight ISO 300 instead since I think those have everything that the Babolat is lacking especially feel and comfort.

New Strikes are more comfortable than ISO 300. I played both, ISO is noticeably more crisp and direct. Personally, I like the new Strike feel better, feels more solid on impact.

 

[musicsoul]

These numbers are always interesting. Giant sweetspot and power on the 98 16x19. Small(er) on the 100 16x20

 

[Fighting phoenix]

These numbers are always interesting. Giant sweetspot and power on the 98 16x19. Small(er) on the 100 16x20

I saw that same thing and am vexed by the "sweet zone" piece of it - the power I get as I believe it's a function of the higher swing weight.

 

[Fighting phoenix]

I'm really curious to see if there are any Percept 100 or 100D users who try this Pure Strike as well - it's funny to me to see them as Yonex's comps for these 100 Pure Strikes, when my impression is that Pure Strikes, although they are Babalot's "control" line of racquets, are much more powerful than control racquets from other manufacturers' (ie the Gravity, Prestige, Blade, Percept, CX200).

 

[topspn]

I saw that same thing and am vexed by the "sweet zone" piece of it - the power I get as I believe it's a function of the higher swing weight.

Did you measure your demo SW?

 

[TwinCinema]

I'm really curious to see if there are any Percept 100 or 100D users who try this Pure Strike as well - it's funny to me to see them as Yonex's comps for these 100 Pure Strikes, when my impression is that Pure Strikes, although they are Babalot's "control" line of racquets, are much more powerful than control racquets from other manufacturers' (ie the Gravity, Prestige, Blade, Percept, CX200).

Agreed. The only Strike that's comparable to a Percept is the PSVS (or, now, the PS97 I guess). But that frame is unlike all other Strikes. The 98/100 are more powerful. They're closer to EZone IMO than Percept, if you're talking Yonex analogs.

 

[Fighting phoenix]

Agreed. The only Strike that's comparable to a Percept is the PSVS (or, now, the PS97 I guess). But that frame is unlike all other Strikes. The 98/100 are more powerful. They're closer to EZone IMO than Percept, if you're talking Yonex analogs.

Okay glad to hear that and I'm not crazy to think that - the PSVS/PS97 to me is like a Percept 97, but the Strike 98s and 100s are definitely in the Ezone range in terms of power.

 

[Fighting phoenix]

Did you measure your demo SW?

Yeah - 100 16x19 was 322, 16x20 was 326. If "stock" on the 16x20 is 320, I'm gonna try to get one that closer to the 325 range I've been demo-ing. Stability seems to be the one knock on that stick I'm seeing in reviews, but I'm not experiencing that at all on this demo.

 

[topspn]

Yeah - 100 16x19 was 322, 16x20 was 326. If "stock" on the 16x20 is 320, I'm gonna try to get one that closer to the 325 range I've been demo-ing. Stability seems to be the one knock on that stick I'm seeing in reviews, but I'm not experiencing that at all on this demo.

Thank you, that even answers the question I didn’t ask lol but was curious about. The MRT order will be necessary then and all I’ll have to do is add a leather grip

 

[ulunxtns]

I'm really curious to see if there are any Percept 100 or 100D users who try this Pure Strike as well - it's funny to me to see them as Yonex's comps for these 100 Pure Strikes, when my impression is that Pure Strikes, although they are Babalot's "control" line of racquets, are much more powerful than control racquets from other manufacturers' (ie the Gravity, Prestige, Blade, Percept, CX200).

I played 100D along with Strike 98 last night. 98 def much more power than 100D, higher launch angle as well. I would say Strike 98 plays more like a controlled Vcore, actually probably very close to Vcore Tour. Percept feels more like Pro Staff to me.

 

[Fighting phoenix]

I played 100D along with Strike 98 last night. 98 def much more power than 100D, higher launch angle as well. I would say Strike 98 plays more like a controlled Vcore, actually probably very close to Vcore Tour. Percept feels more like Pro Staff to me.

Good comp! I have a PS98 demo on the way - I think the 100 16x20 is gonna be the way to go for me, but given my long history with the 98 16x19, I wanna give this a go to compare before deciding what to eventually buy.

 

[AZJ1973]

Seems reasonable to expect, albeit the Babolat layups -- excluding maybe the PSVS/Strike97 -- haven't really ever been all that soft over the last 4-5 generations, so even with a supposed 61RA reported by TW (which I'm going to guess is probably 2-4RA lower than actual), the 100 16x20 is probably still going to be noticeably more firm and crisp/raw/transmissive than any Clash, v2's included. That said, I'd wager that the 16x20 should offer enough flex and dampening that with a proper string setup and enough recoil weight, most any player should find it comfortable enough.

Also, if balance and swing weight figures are already in the "hmm" range for you, then I would highly, highly (can I say highly one more time?) recommend that if you do pull the trigger, you just budget the extra $20 and place the order by phone, directly through TW's MRT department, requesting they find you the most on-spec, or even slightly under-spec, frame(s) possible. You can of course the roll the dice, too, but going through the brain damage of dealing with the far ends of the bell curve just isn't worth the relatively small savings, IMHO, especially when you already know that you're somewhat sensitive to the average spec as it is. Just my two cents, from experience.

Tennis Point lists a flex rating of 60!!!!

Let’s go!!!!

 

[djnemo]

Hit with the new PS 97 demo today - strung with a full bed of multi. Current racquet is the Vcore Pro 330 (2019) and other recent main racquets - Vcore 98 (2023) and the TF40 315. Initial impressions - swingweight is surprisingly high - would guestimate low 320s stock and after I added 2 grams total at 10 and 2 the swingweight was close to my Vcore Pro 330. Ground strokes were sublime - great control and good feel, enough topspin and slices stayed low. I felt like I couldn't miss. Volleys were also solid although the feel wasn't quite as good as the Vcore Pro at net.

I started a set and then.... it was terrible on serve. No power. I was broken the first two games. I switched to an Ezone 98 tour (another demo) and held serve the remainder of the match. If it weren't for the serve, this would be a racquet I could switch to. I am sure I could improve things with strings, tension, and customizing with weight, but not worth the hassle (esp at $280) when I am hitting well with my Vcore Pro.

 

[marceloriosfan]

Tennis Point lists a flex rating of 60!!!!

Let’s go!!!!

RDC and other RA measuring machines are crazy sensitive... there is a margin of error, depending on well calibrated the machine is, etc.

 

[brentzki]

I got my hands on a PS 100 16x20. Will hit with it when I get a chance.

Got the specs while at local store, pretty hefty QC variance if TW ratings are anything to go off.

Static w/ OG: 328
Balance w/ OG: 32cm
SW: 333

Strung with RPM rough orange 1.25

 

[Trip]

@brentzki - Thanks for posting those specs, Brent. I just posted the unstrung specs on my playtest 100 16x20: 307g/31.7cm/304sw, which will probably translate to a strung spec of ~32.7cm/low-mid 330's sw. Makes me wonder how many samples like ours are out there... guess we'll find out in a few month's time. Regardless, I think most would agree that low-mid 330's SW is a small world away from 320-ish. Oh well. Is what it is!

 

[topspn]

Mama Mia the variance in SW is alarming. Luckily I have a Briffidi so will check the demo I get for context if I’d like higher/lower specs and order accordingly assuming the racquet makes an impression. My biggest concern with the 16x20 is it turns out to be trampoliny flex.

 

[Holic]

From what I understand so far, the PS 100 16x20 seems to be lower powered than the PS 98 16x19 Gen4???

 

[Pneumated1]

Mama Mia the variance in SW is alarming. Luckily I have a Briffidi so will check the demo I get for context if I’d like higher/lower specs and order accordingly assuming the racquet makes an impression. My biggest concern with the 16x20 is it turns out to be trampoliny flex.

You worry too much. Just holic and be merry

 

[parasailing]

I am curious if anyone is planning to provide a review of the Pure Strike 100 16x19 vs Pure Strike 100 16x20. I demo the Pure Strike 100 16x19 and found it a definitely improvement in stiffness over previous versions but it still felt a tad too stiff for me so the 16x20 might be the better racquet.

 

[Fighting phoenix]

I am curious if anyone is planning to provide a review of the Pure Strike 100 16x19 vs Pure Strike 100 16x20. I demo the Pure Strike 100 16x19 and found it a definitely improvement in stiffness over previous versions but it still felt a tad too stiff for me so the 16x20 might be the better racquet.

Yeah those were my two demos and I feel similarly, but I have been providing updates. I have the 98 16x19 on the way, so I might write up a summary of all three when all is said and done.

 

[Blade_X]

Yeah those were my two demos and I feel similarly, but I have been providing updates. I have the 98 16x19 on the way, so I might write up a summary of all three when all is said and done.

Did you try 98 16x19 too ?

 

[Fighting phoenix]

Did you try 98 16x19 too ?

Not yet, demo arrives today (Gen 2 and 3 16x19 98s were my main stick for five years). The two 100s and the 98 are the three that I'm choosing from, with the 100 16x20 as the current betting favorite.

 

[brentzki]

I had a hit and then played a set with the 100 16x20.

My first impressions is that it’s a super consistent and forgiving stringbed. Would say it’s pretty similar to a speed MP. Still get decent depth when hitting outside the sweet spot. Sweet spot seems huge.

I think if I could get one in the 320-328 range it would be the perfect stick - might switch to it tbh. 333 is just a bit too much for me with a 100” 23mm beam.

Will have a longer hit on the weekend against my regular hitting partner who hits a heavy ball and see how it holds up.

 

[Blade_X]

I had a hit and then played a set with the 100 16x20.

My first impressions is that it’s a super consistent and forgiving stringbed. Would say it’s pretty similar to a speed MP. Still get decent depth when hitting outside the sweet spot. Sweet spot seems huge.

I think if I could get one in the 320-328 range it would be the perfect stick - might switch to it tbh. 333 is just a bit too much for me with a 100” 23mm beam.

Will have a longer hit on the weekend against my regular hitting partner who hits a heavy ball and see how it holds up.

More power than speed mp ?

 

[parasailing]

I had a hit and then played a set with the 100 16x20.

My first impressions is that it’s a super consistent and forgiving stringbed. Would say it’s pretty similar to a speed MP. Still get decent depth when hitting outside the sweet spot. Sweet spot seems huge.

I think if I could get one in the 320-328 range it would be the perfect stick - might switch to it tbh. 333 is just a bit too much for me with a 100” 23mm beam.

Will have a longer hit on the weekend against my regular hitting partner who hits a heavy ball and see how it holds up.

I didn't like the new 2024 Speed MP compared to the Pure Strike 100 16x19. The Speed MP had a higher launch angle but it had a lot of vibration. I also tested out the 2024 Speed Pro which did not have the vibration issue even though both Speed MP and Speed Pro was strung with the same string and tension.

The Pure Strike 100 16x20 and the new Blade v9 will be the only 2 racquets I will need to test out for this year assuming a new TF ISO 305 replacement is not around the corner.

 

[ohplease]

There seem to be a bunch of racquets all playing in this same space of more powerful/forgiving modern player (pleener?) frame at 23mm beam and 98 or 100 sqin (strike, blade, prostaff, radical, speed, gravity, tfight, percept, whiteout, etc.).

Anyone want to make some comparisons? I've hit around with my teammates' strikes, radicals, speeds, etc. and while there are some that I'd rather not play with, most of those were definitely playable in the event that I needed to borrow a frame

 

[bbmertz]

Did you try 98 16x19 too

I am curious if anyone is planning to provide a review of the Pure Strike 100 16x19 vs Pure Strike 100 16x20. I demo the Pure Strike 100 16x19 and found it a definitely improvement in stiffness over previous versions but it still felt a tad too stiff for me so the 16x20 might be the better racquet.

I’m definitely most interested in this 100s comparison as well. In the meantime, I picked up the 98 16x19 demo at a local tennis shop and will test it out against my 2022 version of the Gravity Pro on Friday and Saturday.

One odd thing I noted is that the specs on the 98 16x19 demo racket are different than those stated on the Babolat spec sheet. Specs are 330 swingweight and 4 pts HL, however racket says 320 SW and 7 HL.

 

[ZeroandOne]

There seem to be a bunch of racquets all playing in this same space of more powerful/forgiving modern player (pleener?) frame at 23mm beam and 98 or 100 sqin (strike, blade, prostaff, radical, speed, gravity, tfight, percept, whiteout, etc.).

Anyone want to make some comparisons? I've hit around with my teammates' strikes, radicals, speeds, etc. and while there are some that I'd rather not play with, most of those were definitely playable in the event that I needed to borrow a frame

Strike looks the coolest and has the most pop I think.

 

[JeffG]

Is the handle shape still a bit more rectangular on the new Strikes?

 

[Fighting phoenix]

There seem to be a bunch of racquets all playing in this same space of more powerful/forgiving modern player (pleener?) frame at 23mm beam and 98 or 100 sqin (strike, blade, prostaff, radical, speed, gravity, tfight, percept, whiteout, etc.).

Anyone want to make some comparisons? I've hit around with my teammates' strikes, radicals, speeds, etc. and while there are some that I'd rather not play with, most of those were definitely playable in the event that I needed to borrow a frame

Of those pleeners you mentioned, I'd say the Strike is most similar to the whiteout (at least the two Strike 98s are). The Strike has more pop and spin potential than the radical, pro staff, blade, percept. Probably about the same as the Speed, but I'll say that the Strikes I've been demoing are more controlled than the Speed MP, but with just as much power potential and a lower launch angle.