the one i have is the same. i was offered another that was slightly higher, but would have been <330SW still
Pure Strike 2024
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the one i have is the same. i was offered another that was slightly higher, but would have been <330SW still
Tranqville
Professional
Great racquet choice, Nadal Jr!
ACT
Rookie
Im debating whether to buy Strike Team and weight it up to my specs, or buy the 98 underspec (or do both and see a difference) seems alot more difficult to get an underspec Strike, their SWs are averaging very high
I used the TW matching service and ordered my second Strike 98. They found one with the specs I like, 10.74oz/304.4g, 31.8cm, 293 SW (unstrung).
I also noticed the strings add more swingweight to this strike 98 than other sticks. My first strike unstrung SW was 298, with RPM Rough 125, the strung SW was 335.
TheRareCreature
New User
I demoed the 97 and got out twice with it. In stock form, great for lower levels or playing against someone that does not hit very hard. Very easy to swing. Otherwise, will need a little customization to avoid getting pushed around. Felt the ball sometimes got away from me or was flimsy on some shots compared to some of the other racquets I demoed like the pro staff or gravity pro.
Fighting phoenix
Professional
Yeah I’m learning that’s one of the heavier strings out there, like Lynx tour. MSV focus hex 1.18 resulted in a swing weight of 322 strung when my racquet was 295 unstrung
Paulo Braz
Semi-Pro
For those who purchased the pure strike 97 2024, what is the unstrung sw that the racket came with from the factory? Mine came with 290 sw in size L2.
Anyone find the 98 more demanding to use than the 100? I get the higher SW will make it a bit slower, but besides that, how's the forgiveness and sweetspot between the sizes?
I saw lots of comments saying that the 98 has a bigger sweetspot which I would expect from a 100.
I used to use the 3rd gen 98 16x19 and didn't have issues using it besides the elbow pain, but Im wondering if I going up to 100 will give me much more forgiveness? Seems like 98 is more powerful which I would prefer, if it's not much more difficult to use in comparison.
I saw lots of comments saying that the 98 has a bigger sweetspot which I would expect from a 100.
I used to use the 3rd gen 98 16x19 and didn't have issues using it besides the elbow pain, but Im wondering if I going up to 100 will give me much more forgiveness? Seems like 98 is more powerful which I would prefer, if it's not much more difficult to use in comparison.
TwinCinema
Professional
I can't think of any racket line on the market where this *isn't* the case. 100s are usually lighter than their 98 counterparts, and with more surface area to hit, they have larger sweet spots, and almost always more power.
the 98 might be more powerful just from weight based power (330 sw vs 320) but the 100 will be a more powerful/forgiving frame inherently, the 98 requires you to have faster strokes and be able to swing a slightly heftier frame to be able to generate that power
So it's safe to assume if were to put a bit of lead in the hoop, it should bring the power closer to 98? There's also a difference of stiffness, but stiffness measurements seem to not be too accurate.
My experience was 98 is more forgiving than 100 16x20 and more powerful. TW sweetzobe data echo that as well.
topspn
G.O.A.T.
Mine was 337SW. Still played good but realistically I don't want this to be my permanent SW so got rid of it. I'll probably revisit again at a SW similar to yours.
That feels so counterintuitive. I was considering 100 to be more honest about my game level, but if the bigger head size doesn't give the noticeable benefit in this case, then perhaps 98 is a better option.
I think it’s because of the strong patterns. 98 is 16x19. 100 16x20 is more controlled. If you want bigger sweetspot, maybe try 100 16x19
Fighting phoenix
Professional
I get plenty of forgiveness in my 100 16x20, can’t fully compare to the 98, but it’s definitely more forgiving than the gen 3 98 I played with for a long time. Especially in doubles
Orange-and-Blue
New User
After demoing 6 racquets, I think I’ve settled on the PS100 16x20. Was by far my most consistent and best mix of performance, feel, stability. Ezone 98 was the runner up, which other than the difference in head size, the other measurables were pretty similar to the ps100 16x20 (weight, swing weight, 6pt HL).
That being said, what’s been the ideal string set up for this racquet? Does it prefer lower tension? I think my demo was hyper g at 52. I’m thinking I might want to go a little lower at 50 for some incremental power/depth.
That being said, what’s been the ideal string set up for this racquet? Does it prefer lower tension? I think my demo was hyper g at 52. I’m thinking I might want to go a little lower at 50 for some incremental power/depth.
SinneGOAT
Legend
I feel the Gen 3 has a bigger sweet spot feeling, maybe not a bigger sweet spot, due to the muteness.
Yes.
To me yes. Much more consistent stringbed, gen3 was unplayable for me. It produced a "fake" high launch angle.
gino
Legend
I dont think so, I used the gen 3 extensively and was on the gen 4 playtest
gen 4 is slightly more muted, flexy, and soft
SinneGOAT
Legend
I wouldn’t say huge, but noticeable. Different ball feel, different swing cause of higher swingweight, less muted feel. I personally feel the gen 3 is softer because of its high muteness, but the 4 is still soft with the right strings. It’s still a babolat.
Orange-and-Blue
New User
My 16x20 just came in, unfortunately looks like I I ended up on the over-spec side. My demo was very maneuverable but the purchased frame ended up at strung weight of 330, SW 334 and feels a bit more sluggish (at least just hitting volleys in my garage). Hopefully once I get to use it on court I don’t notice the increased swing weight as much. Can’t believe these variances in SW vs what’s being advertised.
Fighting phoenix
Professional
Yeah they definitely seem to be coming in higher than the average TW posted in terms of SW. What kind of string are you using to get to that 334sw? That can make a pretty big difference - RPM Rough and Lynx Tour 1.25 are both really heavy, and I found that MSV Focus Hex at 1.18 really brought down the SW compared to when I had it strung with those heavier strings.
Orange-and-Blue
New User
Using Hyper G 17. Also the 334 was the DIY method, I’m going to do it a few more times later this evening to hopefully narrow any margins of error.
Modal
New User
Think I just clicked through 15 pages and couldn't find more than one legit review of the 16x19 98. Anyone have experience with this and can compare it to other frames? My concern in the past was that it felt like a club and was painful to play even with multi. Is the twist weight extremely cumbersome, and can this hit a variety of shape?
jimdontcare
Semi-Pro
Check out the TW playtest thread
Fighting phoenix
Professional
I demoed both the 100s, and was a former Gen 2 and Gen 3 PS 98 16x19 user. Loved the 16x20 and the increased comfort from previous versions so much that I ended up choosing it as my main stick after a very long process - the 16x19 100 I really liked a lot as well, I just liked the enhanced feel/flex I got with the 16x20, slightly higher weight, head light balance, and slightly better control. It was close though and I could have gone either way.
Fighting phoenix
Professional
@Tan Tennis compared this in a video to the Blade v9 (he seems to be a long time Blade user) - he acknowledged at the end of the video that he personally preferred the Blade, but couldn't recommend it over the new Pure Strike (a racquet he historically hasn't liked) as the PS seems to do everything the Blade does but slightly better. LMK if I mischaracterized the end of your video!
So you're saying the 16x20 has a few extra sprinkles of pixie dust? Hot dang, that's just what I'm looking for.
*whips out credit card*
Tan Tennis
Rookie
You summarized the video way better than I did hahahaha.
ChanterRacquet
Professional
PS1620 demo was 323 g, 32.6 cm, 329 sw (avg 329, 328, 330) - 16g Xalt liked it so much I nabbed @SabreCheetah9 's off the classifieds, great seller btw
PS1620 used was 321 g, 32.6 cm, 330.6 (avg 332, 330, 330, 331, 330) w/overgrip - 16g Multifeel/16g Revolve so stoked that this is so similar to the demo I had (interesting to note that the shop the seller bought it from measured it with the card in at 321 sw, so maybe +10 strung? haha)
Anything below 325 sw seems below the average. In compiling the collection of reported sw below, I noticed a couple of comments saying how clubby it was for those that had 335+ sw, but also several comments that mirrored my own experience from those with <= 330 sw that it was surprisingly whippy.
On a side note, stringing the 1620 was a dream. The construction of the grommets leaves little gaps for you to thread through when you have blocked holes; I'm thinking I didn't even need to string the first couple crosses before finishing the mains. Spend most of my time stringing blades and fx 500 and not having to dick around with pushing through blocked holes with that lower cross was a nice change of pace.
PS1620 used was 321 g, 32.6 cm, 330.6 (avg 332, 330, 330, 331, 330) w/overgrip - 16g Multifeel/16g Revolve so stoked that this is so similar to the demo I had (interesting to note that the shop the seller bought it from measured it with the card in at 321 sw, so maybe +10 strung? haha)
Anything below 325 sw seems below the average. In compiling the collection of reported sw below, I noticed a couple of comments saying how clubby it was for those that had 335+ sw, but also several comments that mirrored my own experience from those with <= 330 sw that it was surprisingly whippy.
On a side note, stringing the 1620 was a dream. The construction of the grommets leaves little gaps for you to thread through when you have blocked holes; I'm thinking I didn't even need to string the first couple crosses before finishing the mains. Spend most of my time stringing blades and fx 500 and not having to dick around with pushing through blocked holes with that lower cross was a nice change of pace.
Fighting phoenix
Professional
Nice research and agree on what seems to be the average sw! The 325 strung ones I got (295 unstrung according to tw) were the lowest TW could find at the time.
Also totally agree on the ease of stringing this racquet, which I’ve found to be an added bonus as well ;-)
@ChanterRacquet - Nice job gathering our different measurements. Really puts things into perspective with the 100 16x20 -- there's clearly a dichotomy of playing experience going on, between the group of frames with a stock unstrung spec closer to advertised (305g/31cm/290-ish sw) and the "upper bounds" group (307-310g+/almost 32cm balance/300+sw), with the former generally being described as "whippy" and fast-playing, and the latter, clearly not so much (I'm part of the latter group).
So basically, with the 100 16x20 at least, it's more or less non-optional -- you need to use a matching service on this frame. Period. And that's a bit depressing, as the majority of buyers won't, and many will end up with the sticks that are too over-spec for their physical ability and game, and end up leaving feedback that maligns Babolat and the frame for that, and in part, they'd be justified in their opinion, but in most of those cases, a simple phone call and $20 could have prevented it... Granted, you'll always have those who like that 300+ stock sw weight and head-heavier balance (the Blade Pro players and similar), but IMHO those players are a minority in the grand scheme of things.
So basically, with the 100 16x20 at least, it's more or less non-optional -- you need to use a matching service on this frame. Period. And that's a bit depressing, as the majority of buyers won't, and many will end up with the sticks that are too over-spec for their physical ability and game, and end up leaving feedback that maligns Babolat and the frame for that, and in part, they'd be justified in their opinion, but in most of those cases, a simple phone call and $20 could have prevented it... Granted, you'll always have those who like that 300+ stock sw weight and head-heavier balance (the Blade Pro players and similar), but IMHO those players are a minority in the grand scheme of things.
ChanterRacquet
Professional
I’ve got more court time and I really like what I can do with the racquet, the control is phenomenal but after an hour into drills at the local tennis club I had to switch to my Aero; the swingweight got to be too much to be able to hit aggressive ground strokes.
Stringing with my spin hybrid, I came to realize how much, considering sw, this racquet is really for 18x20 users wanting more spin/launch than 16x19 users wanting more control. Though it comes close to splitting the difference.
Stringing with my spin hybrid, I came to realize how much, considering sw, this racquet is really for 18x20 users wanting more spin/launch than 16x19 users wanting more control. Though it comes close to splitting the difference.
topspn
G.O.A.T.
It’s a sacrilege they took the gorgeous PJ of the 97 VS and replaced with that boring PJ
Fighting phoenix
Professional
Agreed on the vs paint job, but I do really like the new accents of the other pure strikes and the flours red on both sides. To me white stands out and I think it’s pretty cool.
topspn
G.O.A.T.
Its new touches is an improvement to the last
VAPORHEAD
Rookie
agreed
patrickluvsoj
Rookie
Is the T-fight 315 16x19 a more maneuverable and better feel version of Pure Strike 98 16X19, or is the power & forgiveness drop-off pretty significant?
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