Question About the Babolat Pure Control Line!

#1
Hey All,
I was looking into the Pure Control line of Babolat frames and unfortunately, they were a little before my time so I'm not familiar with all the evolutions of the frame.
Is there a difference between the Pure Control and Pure Control GT? If so, what would that be?
Are the VS Strikes different than the Older Pure Controls?
 
#2
The think the Pure Control came before the Pure Storm and the Pure Control GT came after the Pure Storm.

I am not too sure about the Strike VS, but based on stiffness, I would guess they are more similar to the Storms than the Controls.
 
#3
1st gen was pure control then they went thru some more until the swirly then changed to pure storm. The ones you’re talking about the difference is the pure storm GT was flexier, then they moved back to pure control and the frame became stiffer. I could still play with the stiffer one because it wasn’t stiff like a pure drive, it was just less flex than the pure storm gt
 

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#4
Original pure controls up to about 2007 were heavier and stiffer. Storm was lighter and flexier from 2008 up to 2014ish...... then became pure control again with an increased twistweight for a little stiffer feel but same flex. New vs strike has incresed stiffness again, up to 65RA i think? Havent tried it yet but want to.
 
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#5
Original pure controls up to about 2007 were heavier and stiffer. Storm was lighter and flexier from 2008 up to 2014ish...... then became pure control again with an increased twistweight for a little stiffer feel but same flex. New vs strike has incresed stiffness again, up to 65RA i think? Havent tried it yet but want to.
You're not missing out on the strike VS. the increased stiffness aside, both the aero and pure strike VS models are significant downgrades from their predecessors.

To OP, If you're referring to the pure control from a few years back, they're pretty close to the pure storm GT. I personally found the storms to feel muted and mushy while the controls had a cleaner feel. Others have reported the opposite and prefer the storms. the strike vs tour is the successor to the storm/control line, but the stiffness increased and i felt the feel and stability of the frame dropped significantly to the point of feeling hollow and lifeless.
 
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#6
Starting with the 'Swirly' (Cica 2001), the lineage went:

Pure Control 2001 (aka 'Swirly') -> Pure Control 'Team' 2003 -> Pure Storm 'Carbon X' -> Pure Storm GT 2009 -> Pure Storm GT 2011 -> Pure Control (2014) -> Pure Strike VS

The Swirly was the only one that came in stock at 330g. All the others were offered in 320g, and then later in 'light' versions. The flex also changed from line to line, with the Swirly being the stiffest. Note also that around 2004 they started offering a 'Pure Storm', which was essentially the light version of the Pure Control. This was before they re-branded the whole line as 'Pure Storm' in 2007.

Another distinction is that the 2001 & 2003 were branded as '97 sq in', although they are the exact same mold as the later '98 sq in' Pure Storms.

The most highly sought after lines are the Swirly (I'll forever regret selling my 3 'Swirly' + frames), and the 2009/2011 Storm GTs. Interestingly, the TW page for the 2009 actually says "Features the 2009 cosmetic but is identical in every other way to the 2011 model", but some prefer one over the other. Go figure...
 
#7

I will say that that is the best looking frame that I have ever seen. I'm in love!
Thanks for all the responses! Basically, I picked up two matched Pure Controls of the FleaBay, and unfortunately, that site messed up my shipping address and it was returned to senders home. No big deal, but he is away at the moment and won't be able to ship until he gets back, and then I have to wait for it to get here. But I have multiple tournaments with big points to defend, and I want to be used to the frame I'll be using well before then. So I was looking for some background on the frames so I could scoop another one up, but I wanted to make sure the exact model I am getting. The seller had posted them as "2x Babolat Pure Control GT 98 4 3/8 Matched".
I didn't know if there was a difference between the Pure Control and then the Pue Control GT. They seem like great frames from what I have heard!
Anything I should know about stringing? I have Black Bear Tennis's "Bear Claw" (a new string I am eager to test out).
Also if you could only compare it to one frame on the market currently (excluding the VS) what would you compare my frames too?
 
#8
The seller had posted them as "2x Babolat Pure Control GT 98 4 3/8 Matched".
I'm guessing by 'Pure Control GT' they meant the 2014 version?



I don't think it was ever actually called 'Pure Control GT' (like the Pure Storms), although it is advertised as having 'GT Technology'.

Also if you could only compare it to one frame on the market currently (excluding the VS) what would you compare my frames too?
Unfortunately, I'm no help there. I only hit w/ the 2014 Pure Control once, and that was 5 years ago. I had hoped they were similar to the Swirly, but no dice.
 
#9
I've only hit with the 2014 version of the Pure Control. with lead added it is an amazing frame! I've read (from Babolat official) on this site that the Pure strike VS is the exact same frame with different paint. Some people say they hit the same, and some people say it's different. I'd love to find out.
 
#10
I've only hit with the 2014 version of the Pure Control. with lead added it is an amazing frame! I've read (from Babolat official) on this site that the Pure strike VS is the exact same frame with different paint. Some people say they hit the same, and some people say it's different. I'd love to find out.
Are you sure about that? They're definitely the same mold, but not the same frame.
 
#13
Here are the sticks you picked up. They might not be named “GT” but indeed they do have GT technology.

https://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Reviews/PC/PCReview.html

You’ve got some solid platform sticks now—they are nice player rackets in waiting. Need a bit of lead love weighing only 295 unstrung. Setup I liked was a gram or two at 3&9&12 and a good amount in the handle bringing them up to around 330g strung with OG. It has a fairly light stock swing weight and better plow through does it favors. Of course play around with the weight.

What is your previous racket?
 
#14

I will say that that is the best looking frame that I have ever seen. I'm in love!
Thanks for all the responses! Basically, I picked up two matched Pure Controls of the FleaBay, and unfortunately, that site messed up my shipping address and it was returned to senders home. No big deal, but he is away at the moment and won't be able to ship until he gets back, and then I have to wait for it to get here. But I have multiple tournaments with big points to defend, and I want to be used to the frame I'll be using well before then. So I was looking for some background on the frames so I could scoop another one up, but I wanted to make sure the exact model I am getting. The seller had posted them as "2x Babolat Pure Control GT 98 4 3/8 Matched".
I didn't know if there was a difference between the Pure Control and then the Pue Control GT. They seem like great frames from what I have heard!
Anything I should know about stringing? I have Black Bear Tennis's "Bear Claw" (a new string I am eager to test out).
Also if you could only compare it to one frame on the market currently (excluding the VS) what would you compare my frames too?
That is the swirly version of 330gr. All the later versions are lighter and less stiff so can never match your swirly version.
I have tried the Zylon version of the pure control line but that one broke right in the bridge while practicing serves, so not a model i can recommand.
 
#15
Yes, just read it again. Babolat Official said it is the same racquet. "only update is cosmetic"
The pure control 2014 had a average flex of 62RA according to TW. The strike VS has an average flex of 65RA. Unless Babolats tolerances have gone to hell or the guy on the RDC at TW was drunk, i dont know how they can differ so much unless they changed something....


I will say that that is the best looking frame that I have ever seen. I'm in love!
Thanks for all the responses! Basically, I picked up two matched Pure Controls of the FleaBay, and unfortunately, that site messed up my shipping address and it was returned to senders home. No big deal, but he is away at the moment and won't be able to ship until he gets back, and then I have to wait for it to get here. But I have multiple tournaments with big points to defend, and I want to be used to the frame I'll be using well before then. So I was looking for some background on the frames so I could scoop another one up, but I wanted to make sure the exact model I am getting. The seller had posted them as "2x Babolat Pure Control GT 98 4 3/8 Matched".
I didn't know if there was a difference between the Pure Control and then the Pue Control GT. They seem like great frames from what I have heard!
Anything I should know about stringing? I have Black Bear Tennis's "Bear Claw" (a new string I am eager to test out).
Also if you could only compare it to one frame on the market currently (excluding the VS) what would you compare my frames too?
Best looking racquet ever!
 
#16
The pure control 2014 had a average flex of 62RA according to TW. The strike VS has an average flex of 65RA. Unless Babolats tolerances have gone to hell or the guy on the RDC at TW was drunk, i dont know how they can differ so much unless they changed something....



Best looking racquet ever!
Didn't catch that RA difference. Good point
 
#17
The pure control 2014 had a average flex of 62RA according to TW. The strike VS has an average flex of 65RA. Unless Babolats tolerances have gone to hell or the guy on the RDC at TW was drunk, i dont know how they can differ so much unless they changed something....
TW lists the RA of a PS 18x20 as 67... The card on the frame (from Babolat) lists the RA as 70... I think they measure it differently, perhaps + or - the grip?
 
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