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The-Champ

Legend
I've heard people say that Sampras serves bigger today. My question is...what does the new racket technology bring to the game? Are groundies more powerful and faster?
 

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
Absolutely nothing. Only thing technology has brung is the frames today are made stronger, therefore, have a longer life-span.
 

Mick

Legend
i remember reading somewhere that sampras gave more credit to the advancement in string technology.
 

The-Champ

Legend
Absolutely nothing. Only thing technology has brung is the frames today are made stronger, therefore, have a longer life-span.
life span, that's it?

Thanks Drak and everyone who replied!


Then Borg, nastase and all those great players would have made the same impact today using their old rackets?
 
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Mick

Legend
That's not prime borg though.
prime borg would have won the match ! :)

borg lost the match because he committed a lot of unforced errors.
arrese did not overpower borg with his modern racquet but he (arrese) was the better player.
 

Holly

Banned
I've heard people say that Sampras serves bigger today. My question is...what does the new racket technology bring to the game? Are groundies more powerful and faster?
I think up to very recently he was playing with his same old stick (pro staff 85 inch).

I read somewhere on TW that the original prostaff was really 88 inches but they called it 85 because the PWS sticks into the playing area of the stick.

I suspect that there is no difference between the old pro staff racquet and the new one. Wilson is famous for "re-inventing" the wheel and selling you the same product only repackaged.
 

Azzurri

Legend
I think up to very recently he was playing with his same old stick (pro staff 85 inch).

I read somewhere on TW that the original prostaff was really 88 inches but they called it 85 because the PWS sticks into the playing area of the stick.

I suspect that there is no difference between the old pro staff racquet and the new one. Wilson is famous for "re-inventing" the wheel and selling you the same product only repackaged.
Hi, welcome to the boards. The 85 is an 85. Just like the 90 is a 90. This topic has been discussed many times and its simply not true.
 

Azzurri

Legend
what has that change in strings brought to the game?
as you may know, gut was king until poly took over. the issue with gut is the power. guys would string very high to keep the power down. uys like McEnroe that strung in the high 40's were the exception (his game was all finesse anyway and feel). The poly allows the player of today to take much bigger cuts at the ball. Agassi made a statement about poly (when he first tried it) that will never be forgotten. he said this string (Lux) should be illegal. Agassi himself benefited from poly and was able to play at a high level a bit longer because of the strings. its pretty simple...more control and the player can hit harder. i know for a fact that I was able to take much harder cuts at the ball with poly than the guts I currently use. too bad poly gave me shoulder issues.:(
 

Azzurri

Legend
define power in this context please.
I know what you mean..what the heck is power in a string. OK, I will give you an example. When I played poly I was hitting (swinging) at the ball much harder. I was able to generate more racquet head speed and the ball would still stay in the court (not all the time:)). The poly string has little to no power in that it generates little reaction compared to a natural gut. The gut is more elastic...it literally stretches. Think of a bow and arrow. The farther back you stretch the bow's string, the farther and fatser the arrow flies. Kinda the same thing with natural gut string. The poly is not elastic like the gut, it does not stretch much...so no "power"...the arrow won't go as far (think of the arrow as a tennis ball).

Sampras mentioned the string has helped his game...he now crosses his gut with Lux poly. It "deadens" the string bed a littl and allows him to hit out with more control of his power.

hope this helps!
 

The-Champ

Legend
I know what you mean..what the heck is power in a string. OK, I will give you an example. When I played poly I was hitting (swinging) at the ball much harder. I was able to generate more racquet head speed and the ball would still stay in the court (not all the time:)). The poly string has little to no power in that it generates little reaction compared to a natural gut. The gut is more elastic...it literally stretches. Think of a bow and arrow. The farther back you stretch the bow's string, the farther and fatser the arrow flies. Kinda the same thing with natural gut string. The poly is not elastic like the gut, it does not stretch much...so no "power"...the arrow won't go as far (think of the arrow as a tennis ball).
Sampras mentioned the string has helped his game...he now crosses his gut with Lux poly. It "deadens" the string bed a littl and allows him to hit out with more control of his power.

hope this helps!

Thank you it helped a lot!

One question though,.... I think the fact that poly it's not as elastic as gut like you said, is what makes it more powerful, and can generate more pace.

I mean smacking a tennis ball cannot be compared to shooting bow and arrow...instead you can compare it to hitting a baseball. We use hard wood to hit the baseball instead of something elastic, because it would generate more pace.

I don't know...I am making sense?
 

Azzurri

Legend
Thank you it helped a lot!

One question though,.... I think the fact that poly it's not as elastic as gut like you said, is what makes it more powerful, and can generate more pace.

I mean smacking a tennis ball cannot be compared to shooting bow and arrow...instead you can compare it to hitting a baseball. We use hard wood to hit the baseball instead of something elastic, because it would generate more pace.

I don't know...I am making sense?
The bow/arrow analogy was based on string elasticity..not hitting a tennis ball. The gut will stretch a little more, so it will then provide more rebound. Like a bow, the farther you stretch it, the farther the bow will go. However, don't confuse this with tension.
 

DJG

Semi-Pro
Poly is a low-powered string, which is why it made such an impact on the pro tour - you can take huge cuts at the ball and still get it to fall in. Gut on the other hand is arguably the most powerfull string around (along with feel).

Poly doesn't give way (like a tighter stringjob, less power, more control), while gut give more way (like a looser stringjob, more power).
 

plasma

Banned
Roscoe tanner: guiness book of world's records 1976. 140 mph serve with a standard sized racquet. A few years later officially clocked at 153!
Several 1980's pros like Eirc Korita (he chose the famous $500 PRINCE BORON)had monster serves (officially clocked at 140 mph!).

The OP mentioned new rack technology, I'm curious to hear what it is...oh, you mean the latest gimmick?... liquid metal nanotech speedports with hyper carbon flexpoints? Nothing substantially new has been pioneered in racks in the last 15 years, either the speed-gun stats prove it; or players were superhuman back then to get those mph numbers with their "outdated" technology...
 

gastro54

Rookie
We use hard wood to hit the baseball instead of something elastic, because it would generate more pace.
Elasticity is the ability of a material to return to its original shape after being deformed (strained).

Stiffness is the resistance of an elastic material to deformation.

"Powerful" materials have high elasticity and high stiffness.

Pro baseball players are forced to use wooden bats because they are less elastic less stiff and less powerful than metal ones.
 
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