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Interestingly, such a deceptive practice would not be allowed in Pickleball. The regs require the proper brand and model number to be part of the graphics on the paddle face. Good catch!The photo of Yannick Noah with the “Le Coq Sportif” racquet is actually a blacked-out Donnay Mid 25 with a LCS stencil!
How were you able to make out the exact models in some of these blurry photos? Are you using a published list as reference?
The Wilson Pro Staff came out in 1984I zoom on the photos, search for another pic, search on internet, TW, eday. The "Head Comfort" came after I looked at the vintage Head ad photos I downloaded from eday in 2019. Dunlop Volley (Evonne Goolagong) came after internet search.
After searching for photos of Sophie Marceau's Dunlop on eday.fr (without luck), i identified Fabrice Santoro's Dunlop from this image. It's a Dunlop Mach 2 Pro (Raquette Tennis Dunlop Mac 2 Pro) .
"Also, reading that history of ProStaff on Wilson's website, one can't help but to wonder if there is anyone left in the company's marketing department who has first hand knowledge of (or is interested in) their own history."
It seems they have information only from old Wilson catalogs.
The Wilson Pro Staff came out in 1984
No, the 85, 110, and 125 (“super oversize”) were all introduced together.Did the 110 came out in 1983 and the midsize in 1984?
No, they all came out at the same time in 1984. 85, 110, and 125. I have an industry article about the release from March 1984. What came out in 1983 was the Ultra 2Did the 110 came out in 1983 and the midsize in 1984?
Guy Forget used the Pro 251985
Dunlop Max 200G
Adidas GTX Mid -- Adidas
Kneissl White Star
Wimbledon Graphite
Puma Vilas - b
Fila - b
Wilson Pro Staff Midsize: 1 -- Wilson Sting
Head Director
Snauwaert Golden Mid
Slazenger
Donnay CGX 25 -- Donnay Pro 35 (date unknown)
Rossignol F (x)
Vostra Wojtek Fibak Autograph
Emrik -- Emrik Blitz III
Prince Magnesium Pro
Mizuno
Must have been a grass court shoe!! NOT for US hard courts! I remember trying a pair and they were less supportive than the Tretorn slippers!!! Is Newk wearing Lotto? Looks a bit like their logo.What an extraordinary thread.
Rochey, Newk and squad
This pic in particular got me because everyone but Newk is wearing Dunlop Volley tennis shoes. I've been looking for a pair of these for years since my old ones died but sadly the company as been sold and what is being made instead are really terrible versions of this classic Aussie shoe.
Absolutely zero support, but the soles on the original Dunlop Volleys, from my memory, had the perfect grip for the ubiquitous en tous cas clay courts that peppered the suburbs at the time. Very controllable and consistent slide with them.Must have been a grass court shoe!! NOT for US hard courts! I remember trying a pair and they were less supportive than the Tretorn slippers!!! Is Newk wearing Lotto? Looks a bit like their logo.
If you're really, really, really desperate for a pair of the original Dunlop Volleys, I saw a handful of NOS pairs a couple of years ago at VK Shoes in a suburb of Melbourne called Springvale. I bought a pair, but could only get black ones in anything close to my size. They're very good for walking around on a tiled house roof as well. Apparently they used to be pretty much standard equipment for all Australia Roof Tilers.What an extraordinary thread.
Rochey, Newk and squad
This pic in particular got me because everyone but Newk is wearing Dunlop Volley tennis shoes. I've been looking for a pair of these for years since my old ones died but sadly the company as been sold and what is being made instead are really terrible versions of this classic Aussie shoe.
Helena Sukova is holding a White Star Pro Masters with a custom paintjob making it look like an Aero 20!
And the Yonex “R-27” in the photo of David MacPherson is actually the unusual ovoid RX-32.
If you're really, really, really desperate for a pair of the original Dunlop Volleys, I saw a handful of NOS pairs a couple of years ago at VK Shoes in a suburb of Melbourne called Springvale. I bought a pair, but could only get black ones in anything close to my size. They're very good for walking around on a tiled house roof as well. Apparently they used to be pretty much standard equipment for all Australia Roof Tilers.
Must have been a grass court shoe!! NOT for US hard courts! I remember trying a pair and they were less supportive than the Tretorn slippers!!! Is Newk wearing Lotto? Looks a bit like their logo.
The Wudione is actually the Fila Wud1OneMy coach at the time used the Fila Wud1One. Beautiful wood racquet in person.1986
Völkl World Cup NS 14 -- Völkl World Cup NS 14
Pince Pro 110 (date 1986?) -- Prince POG
Wilson Ultra 2 -- Wilson Pro Staff Midsize
Fischer Superform Open
Wimbledon Graphite
Head and Prince Po 110 -- Head Graphite Edge TXE -- Head
Yonex RX-37
Rossignol
Donnay Pro 25
Kneissl White Star Masters and Yonex R-22
Stringer at Roland Garros
Jimmy Connors black frame (Slazenger Panther Pro Ceramic?)
Snauwaert Graphite Orbit? -- 2
Adidas Magister (She was maybe the only player who used condom grip, similar to Tourna what a grip)
Adidas GTX Pro
Völkl (in stockings?)
Puma Vilas Power -- Puma Boris Becker Pro
Wudione
This is a HEAD TXP. Same racquet as the Prestige Pro. The TXP is how HEAD marketed the Prestige Pro in the USA.1987
Head -- Head Edge -- Head Graphite Pro
Adidas
Rossignol
Dunlop Maxpower Super G
Johan Carlsson
Celebrity: Wilson Pro Staff Largehead -- Prince Spectrum Comp 90 -- 2 -- Head Graphite Director -- Wilson Pro Staff Midsize
Prince Spectrum Comp 110 -- Dunlop Maxply Mcenroe
Bridgestone
Völkl -- Völkl Diagonal -- Vőlkl FCS Cup -- Völkl
Snauwaert
Wilson Ultra 2
Adidas GMX
Dunlop Max 200G - b
Fischer Superform Open Pro
Prince POG
I had to string the HEAD rep's very first demo...with some really fat soft string HEAD was peddling at the time! This was BEFORE they considered widening the CAP gap where two(or more) strings had to fit(and we hadn't thought of using wax yet). MAJOR pain!!!This is a HEAD TXP. Same racquet as the Prestige Pro. The TXP is how HEAD marketed the Prestige Pro in the USA.
In post #86 Vijay Amritraj is using a Slazenger Steel, and in post #85 Mike Fishbach is using a Head Professional with a 'spaghetti' string job.
I think I have one of those, NOS.I searched for "Slazenger steel" and found out that it is the Slazenger Challenge X10 made of Tensilium. Also used by Manuel Orantes and Betty Stove.
Yes, that's it--X10. Back in the day we just called it the Slazenger Steel.I searched for "Slazenger steel" and found out that it is the Slazenger Challenge X10 made of Tensilium. Also used by Manuel Orantes and Betty Stove.
Different from the "Plus" ???? Seems we sold a couple of those in the mid-'70s. Absolute beast of a racket!!! (I may still have one...I need to dig a little)Yes, that's it--X10. Back in the day we just called it the Slazenger Steel.
Different from the "Plus" ???? Seems we sold a couple of those in the mid-'70s. Absolute beast of a racket!!! (I may still have one...I need to dig a little)
I'm really not sure--back then we had nicknames for racquets and didn't pay much attention to their actual names. We just called it the Slazenger Steel, like how we called the HEAD Professional the 'Red Head'. You said it was a 'beast' and as I remember they were indeed pretty heavy even though the looked so streamlined. And as I recall the throat piece was not plastic as stated above but metal.Different from the "Plus" ???? Seems we sold a couple of those in the mid-'70s. Absolute beast of a racket!!! (I may still have one...I need to dig a little)
I remember working on the handle for one of those Plus models. Trying to cut it down for a lady customer...danged wood used must have been petrified Ipe or similar. I had trouble using a WOOD RASP to shape the bevels!!!The racquet in Betty Stöve's hand (in post #86) certainly looks like a "Plus" to me (she seemed to have played with this model for quite a few years); as it appears to be chrome-plated all over, including its welded tubular bridge. The X-10 with its blue frame and riveted cast aluminum throat piece would not have produced all these bright glares.
Every "Plus" I've come across weighs just shy of 14 Oz (396 g) strung, with a swing weight falling somewhere between 380 and 400. At 67 - 68 RA, they are also some of the stiffest metal racquets I've measured, so @coachrick's "beast" characterization is quite apt. Stöve was big and tall; assuming she was playing with a production frame (I wonder what those bands are just above the grip, where the model name decal normally sits), it's still quite impressive how she was able to whip this thing around like it was a badminton racquet, especially by today's standards.
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The 1988 “Head” picture with Nancy Roe shows the 1988 Head Elite Pro frame. Conchita Martinez used it, as well.1988
Fischer Superform Open Pro
Prince POG -- Prince Magnesium Pro 90
Donnay ITT/18 - Völkl Bilastic - b
Wilson Ultra 2 -- Wilson Pro Staff Midsize -- 2 -- Wilson Ultra Ceramic
Head Graphite Pro -- Head
Adidas - b -- Adidas GTX Pro -- Adidas
Wilson Ultra Ceramic - Yonex R-24
Fischer Vacuum Pro
Dynaspot
Völkl FCS Match
Yonex R-22 -- Yonex RQ-180
Snauwaert
Fox
Donnay Pro Cynetic
Puma
Lacoste - b
Wimbledon HM-88 - Wimbledon Eclipse
Pro Kennex Silver Ace