Racquet Psychology

gugafan05

Rookie
I think that too many people get sucked into the crap that the companies are trying to sell you. I am not trying to offend or target anyone, I am simply saying I have had this problem and that I think by stating it some people might realize they have the same problem and try to fix it. The problem is that people find a racquet they like, they buy it, and then they play with it for awhile. The play with it for probably a couple of months and then they see racquets on the internet and they talk themselves into buying it because either they just want something new or they convince themselves their probelms are with the racquet. My suggestion to fix this problem is to find a racquet that you can hit well with and stick to it for at leat 2 years. See, when you switch racquets you have to readjust and you also are not facing reality that the problem with you game is you strokes not the racquet. I dont know, it just makes me a little uneasy when I see people posting about how many racquets they have bought and how their names and posts keep reappearing and they keep buying more and more racquets. But, hey if you just like to buy racquets, go for it. However, for some people I just want them to think for a second and realize that once you have found a racquet that you can play with, dont be convinced that it is the racquet causing your shots to go long or the misshits. If you practice all the time you will adjust to the racquet in no time and it will be like and extension of your hand. Trust me, I could use a wilson "racattack" (hope the spelling is right) still use my strokes to get the ball in using topspin. Sure the racquet would lack control and it probably would snap pretty soon, but my point is that some people might want to just find their racquet and stick with it instead of buying more and more racquets that they think will help them. Again, I used to do it so I am not judging, I am just saying maybe some people should consider what I am saying.
 

Ljubicic for number1

Hall of Fame
Well I am one the guys that just likes buying racquets, Dont smoke dont drink dont gamble. I spend the money on Racquets and it makes me happy....
 

jonolau

Legend
gugafan05,

Many people hear you clearly, and I am also in total agreement with what you say:

It's the player/technique, and not so much the equipment that matters.

I'm also sure that you've hit many raw nerves withn this post as it holds very true.

At the same time, we must not deny that capitalism has long crossed the boundaries and consumerism is what makes all economies turn. Without consumerism, you have no need for advertising, marketing, retail, wholesale. No need for logistics, manufacturing, raw materials, mining, drilling. This then goes back to the dark ages where we will all be running around in loin cloths, wielding wooden branch spear tipped with granite chips to hunt for food, leading a nomadic life.

Therefore, we must face the fact that consumerism makes the world turn, provides us with jobs, a sense of purpose and a strong desire to buy and consume to relax in recreational activities such as tennis or golf.

Marketing and design makes us desire the brand new racquet ranges. It is also unfortunate that these factors play on our subconscious psyche to achieve gratification.

Unless we can control our desires and need for gratification, people will always be looking to try out new racquets.

Welcome to the Cold Dark Age of Consumerism.

:-D
 

Thor

Professional
Yea,dedinitly.I feel as though people have confused the search for the best racquet for your game with the search of the racquet that'll make you play like Sampras.
I too believe tha a player should play with something that fits his level,but this is rediculous.People are now more interested in buying racqutes than playing them.Want proof?Go check the threads on people's gear - i cant see why someone would need 50 racquets,with 20 being the same one
 

Ljubicic for number1

Hall of Fame
Isn't buying racquets often a lot like gambling?
:D Yeah but at the end of day I get to take a beautiful piece of equipment home instead of a empty wallet and nothing to show for it.

I am not under the illusion that it will turn me into Sampras:D

I am pretty much buying older racquets these days, not all the new technology and gimmicks
 

jonolau

Legend
Yea,dedinitly.I feel as though people have confused the search for the best racquet for your game with the search of the racquet that'll make you play like Sampras.
I too believe tha a player should play with something that fits his level,but this is rediculous.People are now more interested in buying racqutes than playing them.Want proof?Go check the threads on people's gear - i cant see why someone would need 50 racquets,with 20 being the same one
It's a need to acquire. Just like the ex-First Lady of Philippines, Imelda Marcos who owned 5,000 pairs of shoes, and mind you, they weren't exactly from Target or K-Mart.
 
Well I am one the guys that just likes buying racquets, Dont smoke dont drink dont gamble. I spend the money on Racquets and it makes me happy....

I am with Ljubicic with on this one. If a person has the means and likes buying racquets as part of their experience/enjoyment of this hobby then more power to them.

With this forum and the big auction site, it is pretty easy and cheap to buy and sell secondhand racquets which makes it easy (and relatively cheap) to try out different gear (which for me is part of my learning and enjoyment) of the hobby.
 
You're right. That's why most pros play with these.
wow, you didnt read anything in that post you quoted did you?

want to know something? PRO'S HAVE THEIR TECHNIQUE DOWN PAT. THEN THEY WORRY ABOUT THEIR EQUIPMENT. FIRST, THOUGH, THEY MAKE SURE THEY ARE USING PROPER STROKES.

now stop smoking whatever you're smoking, and read a post and understand it before you quote and reply to it.

thank you, and happy new year ;)
 

Deuce

Banned
If everybody thinks like you do, Tennis-Warehouse will be in big trouble :)
Gee - there's a revelation...that if more people were intelligent, many businesses would be in trouble and/or cease to exist.

Business is dependent on consumerism. And consumerism is dependent on the gullibility of the people.

And 2+2=4.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Gee - there's a revelation...that if more people were intelligent, many businesses would be in trouble and/or cease to exist.

Business is dependent on consumerism. And consumerism is dependent on the gullibility of the people.

And 2+2=4.
Consumerism is what makes economies work and what makes the world go around. If it wasn't for consumerism, we'd all still be living in caves like Osama Bin Laden.

Buying things that you don't "need" is what keeps mankind moving forward and people's lives better. Nobody "needed" to have cars, computers, electricity, World Wide Web, air conditioning, TV's, CD's, VCR's, DVD's, washing machines, movies, microwaves, etc. before they were invented but would you say your life is better with them around? Consumerism is what motivates companies to continue making these things.
 

Deuce

Banned
Consumerism is what makes economies work and what makes the world go around. If it wasn't for consumerism, we'd all still be living in caves like Osama Bin Laden.

Buying things that you don't "need" is what keeps mankind moving forward and people's lives better. Nobody "needed" to have cars, computers, electricity, World Wide Web, air conditioning, TV's, CD's, VCR's, DVD's, washing machines, movies, microwaves, etc. before they were invented but would you say your life is better with them around? Consumerism is what motivates companies to continue making these things.
Spoken like King Gullible himself.

How's that K Factor going? You got it yet? Is it as wonderful as promised?

Wait 'till you hear about the 'L Factor' - it'll be EVEN BETTER! It'll knock your socks off!
 

Duzza

Legend
Spoken like King Gullible himself.

How's that K Factor going? You got it yet? Is it as wonderful as promised?

Wait 'till you hear about the 'L Factor' - it'll be EVEN BETTER! It'll knock your socks off!
What is the L Factor? PICS? More info?
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
Consumerism is what makes economies work and what makes the world go around. If it wasn't for consumerism, we'd all still be living in caves like Osama Bin Laden.

Buying things that you don't "need" is what keeps mankind moving forward and people's lives better. Nobody "needed" to have cars, computers, electricity, World Wide Web, air conditioning, TV's, CD's, VCR's, DVD's, washing machines, movies, microwaves, etc. before they were invented but would you say your life is better with them around? Consumerism is what motivates companies to continue making these things.
Consumerism works in the US because the US Dollar is the defacto reserve currency of the world. Though it is currently losing that status. Asian countries have devalued their currencies to encourage our consumerism while transferring jobs and production to their countries. At some point, this could become an untenable situation.

The last major currency crisis wasn't pretty (Argentina) where the middle-class was absolutely
destroyed.

 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Spoken like King Gullible himself.

How's that K Factor going? You got it yet? Is it as wonderful as promised?

Wait 'till you hear about the 'L Factor' - it'll be EVEN BETTER! It'll knock your socks off!
Yeah, I'm so gullible that I actually thought this thing called the Internet and this thing called a PC and this thing called electricity and this thing called television were real and bought them with my hard earned money. :rolleyes:

So how's life for you in that dark cave of yours?

The fact that just about everyone who has hit with the K90 says it has much more feel than the nCode 90 I guess must just go right over your head or just doesn't matter to you. They must be all wrong and it's just marketing, right? So if I'm looking for a nCode 90 but with more feel then I should stay away from the K90 because it's marketed by a big, bad corporation? :rolleyes:

And how can you accuse someone of being gullible for wanting to try the K90 when you haven't even tried it youself to know if it's real or not? Explain that one. :confused:
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Consumerism works in the US because the US Dollar is the defacto reserve currency of the world. Though it is currently losing that status. Asian countries have devalued their currencies to encourage our consumerism while transferring jobs and production to their countries. At some point, this could become an untenable situation.

The last major currency crisis wasn't pretty (Argentina) where the middle-class was absolutely
destroyed.
The slow down of consumerism in Japan has put Japan in a major recession and in deep, deep trouble for the past 15 years, which they are still not out of yet.

Can you imagine how many stores would go out of business, how many jobs would be lost, and how bad our economy would be if even we just all stopped buying Christmas presents every year?

As Gordon Gekko would say - "Consumerism, for the lack of a better word, is GOOD". ;)
 
Spoken like King Gullible himself.

How's that K Factor going? You got it yet? Is it as wonderful as promised?

Wait 'till you hear about the 'L Factor' - it'll be EVEN BETTER! It'll knock your socks off!
No need to be so prescriptive. Just as there are many ways to play the game of tennis (baseline, Serve and volley, flat shots, topspin, slice, all court, etc) , people take their approach to tennis gear is just as many ways. If someone has the means (i.e. the money) to try out the latest racquets, more power to them. Likewise, if someone rather spend that money on lessons instead of gear, that is equally their choice.
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
The slow down of consumerism in Japan has put Japan in a major recession and in deep, deep trouble for the past 15 years, which they are still not out of yet.

Can you imagine how many stores would go out of business, how many jobs would be lost, and how bad our economy would be if even we just all stopped buying Christmas presents every year?

As Gordon Gekko would say - "Consumerism, for the lack of a better word, is GOOD". ;)
Downturns are to be expected with fiat currencies. Do you remember the downturn in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
We had a housing bubble so the Fed hiked rates to cool things
down and we had a recession, lost jobs, etc. People cleaned
up their personal balance sheets and started saving again.

And this set the stage for a period of sustained growth.

In the mid-1990s, the Federal Reserve and Executive Branch
figured out that it's a lot easier to get reelected when things
were going well than when they aren't. So the liquidity spigots
got turned on. And they've been turned on for quite some
time with a break around the time of the tech bubble burst.
Of course after the tech bubble burst, the housing bubble
started which has created a lot of its own dislocations as
asians have soaked up our mortgage debt to allow us to do
cash-out refis to continue to buy their products.

So we destroy our manufacturing base and become highly
dependent on other countries for production and, increasingly,
engineering and development.




http://www.prudentbear.com/app/webroot/img/Image/Charts/California Home0806.gif

Do you think it's healthy for people to buy houses at eight times median income?

Perhaps Russ Winter could provide a few comments on the results of rampant consumerism driven by cashout refis in CA:

http://wallstreetexaminer.com/blogs/winter/?p=254

Right now our economy is based on a financial shell. Wall
Street received massive profits and employees of Wall Street
firms received massive amounts in compensation. Where do
you think they take those profits from? How about Main St?

You can see the dislocations in college majors. The financial
rewards are going to the financial area. Teenagers are shunning engineering in college as the rewards look a lot
better in financial engineering than in traditional engineering.

Not enough time to go into Kondreytieff Cycles but the ability to make free money means that nature kicks in along with your desire to make more free money. The problem is that the money created is actually debt and we aren't repaying it. We're creating more and more of it in a global game of central bank chicken. The asians keep raising our credit limit so that they can keep their citizens employed and avoid political unrest.

But at some point, the wealth transfer can't be avoided and these countries will use their dollars to compete with us for commodities. Commodities, coincidentally have been on a
pretty good bull market since 2001.

We didn't have rampant consumerism in the early 1990s as
households repaired their balance sheets. Call that a classical
players racquet when central bankers were willing to really
cool off inflation. Since then, the liquidity pump has been
very active to keep the economy going. Kind of like pumping
up your racquet-head speed to compensate for less mass
representing manufacturing jobs.

If you're good at trading, you can make a nice living tapping
the financial liquidity flow so I shouldn't complain. But really
and truly, it isn't fair if you're on the other side of debt.

references:

http://wallstreetexaminer.com/
http://www.prudentbear.com/
http://thehousingbubbleblog.com/
http://www.gmtfo.com/reporeader/OMOps.aspx
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Consumerism is what makes economies work and what makes the world go around. If it wasn't for consumerism, we'd all still be living in caves like Osama Bin Laden.

Buying things that you don't "need" is what keeps mankind moving forward and people's lives better. Nobody "needed" to have cars, computers, electricity, World Wide Web, air conditioning, TV's, CD's, VCR's, DVD's, washing machines, movies, microwaves, etc. before they were invented but would you say your life is better with them around? Consumerism is what motivates companies to continue making these things.
OBL is not living in a cave because he doesn't like consumerism but because he is in hiding. And he was known for his interests in high-end watches and cell phones. Remember, he was Saudi royalty at one time.

I would disagree that nobody needed cars and computers but bought them. They started needing it once it was forced on them. When everyone has a car, you can't be the only one without it, unless you live in a place with adequate public transportation. In fact, public transportation efforts are routinely opposed (behind the scenes, thru front end organizations) by automobile and oil companies. Likewise, HDTV is being forced on everyone within the next few years.

It is a mad frenzy that we have fueled. Then we go to some remote place to "unwind". Just got back from Hawaii so know how that goes.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
The slow down of consumerism in Japan has put Japan in a major recession and in deep, deep trouble for the past 15 years, which they are still not out of yet.

Can you imagine how many stores would go out of business, how many jobs would be lost, and how bad our economy would be if even we just all stopped buying Christmas presents every year?

As Gordon Gekko would say - "Consumerism, for the lack of a better word, is GOOD". ;)
Actually, I read an article a couple of years ago about people in a town somewhere in New England I believe who decided that they would not spend more than $100 per family on Christmas presents and instead focus only on the religious aspects. Lots of local businesses opposed them, including the local newspaper.
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
Actually, I read an article a couple of years ago about people in a town somewhere in New England I believe who decided that they would not spend more than $100 per family on Christmas presents and instead focus only on the religious aspects. Lots of local businesses opposed them, including the local newspaper.
Japan had major, major bubbles in housing and real estate and they've taken
a long time to unwind that bubble. That's called a secular move by traders.
Part of K-Waves. Greenspan knew about K-Waves and said that if he ran into
one, he'd print his way out. Well he did. And the result is that we're on a
treadmill to greater and greater debt expansion as to stop would risk a
monetary implosion. And that's not politcally tolerated today.
 
D

D Wilson

Guest
I agree with you to. I know people like this and it bothers me to because racquets cost alot of money. What really makes me laugh is when people buy new bags for every new racquet!!!!!!
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
If you go to thehousingbubbleblog.com, you'll see lots of posts on speculators and those that are afraid that they'll be priced out of the market forever
as the people to blame for making housing unaffordable for the average
person without a suicide loan.

If there were less consumption in the tennis world on racquets, then we would
see lower average prices for them. That happens on a cyclical basis for
certain manufacturers as it is.

Not like in the Computer Hardware business where Moore's law is still in play.
The computer that I bought in September is far faster than the computer I
bought in June at roughly the same price. And of course has more features.

Of course the market is much larger than tennis leaving massively more money
for R&D&P.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
OBL was living in a cave in Afghanistan even before 9/11. The extremists want the rest of the world to go back to the dark ages. Just look at how they still treat their women. Deuce, like OBL, thinks capitalism and the modern, consumer-driven world is the devil, and only for the infidels.
That is because he was associated with the aftermath of the Mujahideen struggle against the Russians, and rumors are that he was on the side of the US at that time. When he found he could capitalize on the destruction when Russian forces left and the US lost interest, he set up camp there. He could not live a consumerist lifestyle in the middle of Afghanistan with the Taliban everywhere.

One of the problems that economics has to face is that human rights and civil rights can be suppressed, and yet the economy can be strong. We don't want to believe it, but it is true. Dubai and Abu Dhabi are ultra-modern technologically, but their women are still behind the purdah. China is doing pretty well too, in spite of all the world's protestations. The plantations of the Deep South were very successful for a while. Singapore is a "benign dictatorship" but extremely consumeristic. Not to forget Japan, where women's rights are not what they mean in the West.

You are mixing consumerism and progressive attitudes. By and large, you are correct in that greater consumerism results in more modern societies. But travel and Internet are the big factors. Otherwise, consumerism can exist in very isolated societies too.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
You are mixing consumerism and progressive attitudes. By and large, you are correct in that greater consumerism results in more modern societies. But travel and Internet are the big factors. Otherwise, consumerism can exist in very isolated societies too.
No, I'm not mixing them at all. Deuce has expressed his disdain for capitalism, corporations, as well as for consumerism in the past.
 
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