Racquet Strung Twice, String Broke Twice (the same place) in a Day.

Visionary

Professional
The two horizontal strings broke twice after a few balls were hit. Being strung by the same guy/machine in the same day, I took my grievances to him. The poor guy had no idea what to do, so I summoned another guy as it was expedient the racquet got done well. I'd say be aware of the stringers and their machines that may not be what they are advertised. Say for example, this digital Babolat tennis machine that was used in my case has a counterfit chip inside to function and perhaps a sloppy individual to operate it too.
 

Wes

Professional
There are many variables that could be the root cause (or causes) here.

However, when I hear that both breaks happened in the same place, my first thought is going to be about the grommet(s) involved near where the breaks occurred.

The grommet(s) could have a burr, or some other sharp edge which could lead to the string breaking.
For that matter, the string could even be contacting the actual edge of the hole in the graphite itself (i.e. missing grommet barrel, split grommet, grommet got pulled outward too much while tensioning, etc. etc.)

That's the first place I would be ruling out (or confirming) as a potential cause.
 

esgee48

G.O.A.T.
Tell the stringer to tube the grommet holes near where you suspect the grommets are bad.

The weirdness never stops here. Why would a counterfeit chip theory single out just OP's racquets? Wouldn't it be happening on all racquets coming off that machine? Shades of Ghost in the Machine! :alien::eek:
 

2nd Serve Ace

Hall of Fame
Was it the same spot near the edge? Probably a grommet issue if so.

Sometimes really old (new) strings can be a problem for early breaks as well.
 

Lefty5

Hall of Fame
Sometimes strings have low tensile strength. So the grommet might totally be fine, but the string itself doesn't like the bend in that racquet at that particular grommet. Try a different string. If it happens again, its definitely the grommet. If it doesn't, then its the string.
 

struggle

Legend
I do have one particular reel of black poly (Pros' Pro, RPM Blast copy) that i have had trouble
getting strung successfully on occasion.

I've had better luck with cheap India gut. Not kidding.

So i can definitely see some merit in the above approach. I just haven't bothered with the reel much, but here and there.
Hard to have confidence in such even when it has been strung successfully in the past.

No issues with any other PP strings. I use Red Devil 1.18 as my NG cross.
 

Visionary

Professional
Counterfeit chips inside of Babolat machines. :rolleyes:

The conspiracy theories never stop, do they?
The "theory" confirmed by the actual mamagement there. Yes, Chinese are open in this area.

when I hear that both breaks happened in the same place, my first thought is going to be about the grommet(s) involved near where the breaks occurred.
I have had four racquets strung there and the second one has had its string broken in the same place last night.

There are many variables that could be the root cause (or causes) here.
Give it to me
 

brownbearfalling

Hall of Fame
Visionary: where exactly on the crosses did the string break? Near the grommet is what most members are imagining. Also which crosses? Toward the top or bottom?

What strings are you using? Don’t say 19g or badminton string strung at 70 lbs.
 

Visionary

Professional
Visionary: where exactly on the crosses did the string break? Near the grommet is what most members are imagining. Also which crosses? Toward the top or bottom?

What strings are you using? Don’t say 19g or badminton string strung at 70 lbs.
Vertical tip of the racquet (a couple to the left side top at the very edge). Using Yonex Fire 1.25 mm and stringing at 55/53 lbs.
 

am1899

Hall of Fame
Breaking the string once in a location like that, there could be a lot of possible causes. To name a few:

- shear break from a mis-hit
- problem with the grommets
- problem with the stringing machine clamps or gripper
- defective string
- human error on the part of the stringer

With a subsequent break in the same spot though, that puts the grommets as the likely cause at the top of the list, IMHO.
 
"At the very edge" supports the comments that it is probably a bad grommet. That, or you are scraping your racket on the ground and the bumperguard is worn just enough to allow you to be scraping your strings.
 

LocNetMonster

Professional
Vertical tip of the racquet (a couple to the left side top at the very edge). Using Yonex Fire 1.25 mm and stringing at 55/53 lbs.
I'd want to see a shot or two of the bumper where the string passes for each racquet strung with new string, and a close-up shot of the grommet for each string that snapped.

Meanwhile, are you supplying the string or is it from the stringer's inventory?
 

Herb

Semi-Pro
Is a starting clamp being used? If so, the stringer may be crushing the string creating a weak spot.
 

McLovin

Legend
Vertical tip of the racquet (a couple to the left side top at the very edge).
Is anyone else slightly confused by this statement? Is it not easier to say something like '1st or 2nd cross, near the grommet'? And what exactly does 'left side top' mean? If you spin the racquet 180 degrees, isn't it now 'right side top'?

Bottom line, without a good photo of the racquet w/ broken string, it really is hard to give a definitive answer. And even then...as @loosegroove suggests, he/she could be the proud owner of a pet Shankopotamus...
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
Vertical tip of the racquet (a couple to the left side top at the very edge).
Is anyone else slightly confused by this statement?
I would assume 2H or 3H on the left side near the grommet. i would normally assume a clamp issue combined with mishitting the ball. But then:
The two horizontal strings broke twice after a few balls were hit.
This is what confuses me combined with the OP’s later statement.
 

Visionary

Professional
@Irvin you have good eyes. Sorry, I've meant the horizontal ones. I can't believe I've used the word"vertical" too.

I'd want to see a shot or two of the bumper where the string passes for each racquet strung with new string, and a close-up shot of the grommet for each string that snapped.

Meanwhile, are you supplying the string or is it from the stringer's inventory?
Sorry no pics. Have used Yonex Fire 1.25 mm. Could've sworn I wrote it in this thread already. Racquets have been re-strung and might I add very well and lasting which means that the racquets and string are fine but stringer/machine suspect.
 

UseTheFrame

New User
"Racquets have been re-strung and might I add very well and lasting which means that the racquets and string are fine but stringer/machine suspect."

Not so fast. I would definitely suspect a false-flag operation. First stringer sabotaged the string job to drive you to the second stringer, who has the Babolat machine with the counterfeit microchip. It's a common supply-side attack. Hopefully you have not stored this racket anywhere near any others, as they would also be contaminated with tracking chips as well. I hope you have a good supply of Bitcoin, it is not going to be easy to buy your way out of this one.
 

LocNetMonster

Professional
Have used Yonex Fire 1.25 mm. Could've sworn I wrote it in this thread already. Racquets have been re-strung and might I add very well and lasting which means that the racquets and string are fine but stringer/machine suspect.
You wrote you were using that string, but you didn't say whether you supplied the string to the stringer or if they supplied it. That was what I was asking.
 
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