I have a Price ATS Tour 100P (18x20). I feel the shot trajectory is high on this racquet and think I may need something that has more pop. What are some racquets that I should try out? I'm thinking about the Babolat 100 PureStrike, Head Speed, and the Head Prestige 99. Any others that I should try?
Racquet suggestions of Moving from Prince ATS 100P
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GoArmyTennis
Rookie
I think you could get both by trying new strings first
ariwibowo
Rookie
Hi, not sure what tennis level are you but if your shot trajectory is high for 100P then you might not producing enough spin.
If you like prince, you should try the regular 100 with 16x18 string pattern for easy spin generation.
Ryebread
Hall of Fame
Need more context.
18x20 usually has low launch angle
Speed and PS have a higher launch angle than your current stick.
Blade 98 (even the 16x19) has a low launch angle. Low power too. But not more pop.
You could get more pop from a string change. Maybe bring the ball down a bit, too. Try Ytex HexagonX or SquareXsharp.
18x20 usually has low launch angle
Speed and PS have a higher launch angle than your current stick.
Blade 98 (even the 16x19) has a low launch angle. Low power too. But not more pop.
You could get more pop from a string change. Maybe bring the ball down a bit, too. Try Ytex HexagonX or SquareXsharp.
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johnmccabe
Hall of Fame
First try round poly strings at lower tension. Possibly also add weight to the hoop if you can handle it. It's not easy to determine the solution without seeing how you hit, unless you are willing to try many different combinations of things.
Lower launch usually comes with less power.
TennisHound
Legend
Pro Kennex Ki10
tophersuwita
Rookie
Oot, I don't really get why rec players buy Prestige MP (or MP L); aren't there many more better rackets suited for something (power, control, maneuverability etc)?
For example, if OP wants to buy Prestige MP, why don't we suggest Blade v8 for good feel/control or PA 98 for more pop/spin or even Ezone 100 for more power?
For example, if OP wants to buy Prestige MP, why don't we suggest Blade v8 for good feel/control or PA 98 for more pop/spin or even Ezone 100 for more power?
TennisHound
Legend
Or the current Pure Aero. The string pattern is pretty tight and it should have more pop than the ATS 100p. The PK Ki10 would be closer in weight, but with a higher SW. Its a cannon though.
WYK
Hall of Fame
The 99 Prestige is actually a very good racquet for a rec player. It is fairly light, very well controlled, has great feedback, has plenty of spin, and is easy on the arm.
It lacks a bit in power compared to tweeners, but most rec players are rocketing the ball out of the court with a Pure Drive, anyways.
What I often hear from rec players here(but rarely in person when I am coaching) is they want power. What rec players need is control, not power.
Tranqville
Professional
Thanks for the shout-out @Tranqville. Indeed, I do play the 2019 TT100P (the firmer 66RA flex version), and at least for that specific generation, I don't find the launch angle excessive; rather, quite well balanced (as are all of the other qualities of the frame).
@xaeniac - Before looking to jump frames, I would first look at your string setup:
To lower the launch angle:
1) Thicker gauge
2) More round / less shaped
3) Higher cross tension vs main tension
To add more pop:
1) Reduce tension of your current string
2) Look for a higher power version of your current string material of choice (ie. higher power poly, higher power multi, etc.)
3) Move to higher-power material altogether, either in a hybrid or full-bed (ie. go from full-bed poly to a poly/non-poly hybrid, or full-bed non-poly)
Next, I'd look at customization. In stock form, the strung spec of the TT100P has a fairly low MGR/i (of ~20.4), which will generally increase the tendency of the average player to hit slightly more of a loopy ground stroke, than if the MGR/i was a bit higher (if you're unaware of these principles, see this MGR/i educational primer by Impacting Tennis). To create a weighting that will help you flatten out your trajectory, we want to put more mass closer to the balance point of the racquet (ie. the neck area), so if you were to add some weight towards the top of the handle, neck and/or 6 o'clock area of the hoop, it would do just that for you. As to how much weight that should be, only you will know, but I would start with 5g at either 7" up the handle (under the top of the over grip, or even under the top of the base grip), or inside the neck, or at 6 o'clock on the hoop, and modulate from there. After doing do, the racquet should be 1) a bit more effortlessly maneuverable, 2) more stable and 3) more "swat-y" and less loopy in its swing path tendency, both of which should get you the flatter trajectory that you're looking for. The only penalty to pay will be it may feel like it's a bit slower coming through to contact, in which case you'll just need to initiate your takeback a bit earlier to compensate.
As for solving the power issue with customization, that's much more simple, in the form of just a bit of hoop lead, either from what you added to 6 o'clock via the above MGR/i customization, or, a bit at 12 o'clock. This will bump up the swing weight into the mid-upper 320's (or beyond) and likely supply the extra hitting force you're looking for.
Beyond that, if you're really looking for a new frame that has both a lower default launch angle and higher power-to-weight ratio, here's what I'd suggest trying:
- Tecnifibre ISO 305 (305g 98" 18x19 22.5mm beam, 338SW - Under-spec if possible, w/ leather grip
- Volkl V8 Pro (300g 100" 18x20 22/24/22mm beam, 316SW) - Will need 3-5g lead at 12
- Wilson Shift 99 Pro (315g 99" 18x20 23.5mm beam, 332SW)
- Yonex Percept 100D (305g 100" 18x19 23mm beam, 318SW) - Will need 3-5g lead at 12, or 10 & 2
Hope at least some of that helps. Any questions, feel free.
@xaeniac - Before looking to jump frames, I would first look at your string setup:
To lower the launch angle:
1) Thicker gauge
2) More round / less shaped
3) Higher cross tension vs main tension
To add more pop:
1) Reduce tension of your current string
2) Look for a higher power version of your current string material of choice (ie. higher power poly, higher power multi, etc.)
3) Move to higher-power material altogether, either in a hybrid or full-bed (ie. go from full-bed poly to a poly/non-poly hybrid, or full-bed non-poly)
Next, I'd look at customization. In stock form, the strung spec of the TT100P has a fairly low MGR/i (of ~20.4), which will generally increase the tendency of the average player to hit slightly more of a loopy ground stroke, than if the MGR/i was a bit higher (if you're unaware of these principles, see this MGR/i educational primer by Impacting Tennis). To create a weighting that will help you flatten out your trajectory, we want to put more mass closer to the balance point of the racquet (ie. the neck area), so if you were to add some weight towards the top of the handle, neck and/or 6 o'clock area of the hoop, it would do just that for you. As to how much weight that should be, only you will know, but I would start with 5g at either 7" up the handle (under the top of the over grip, or even under the top of the base grip), or inside the neck, or at 6 o'clock on the hoop, and modulate from there. After doing do, the racquet should be 1) a bit more effortlessly maneuverable, 2) more stable and 3) more "swat-y" and less loopy in its swing path tendency, both of which should get you the flatter trajectory that you're looking for. The only penalty to pay will be it may feel like it's a bit slower coming through to contact, in which case you'll just need to initiate your takeback a bit earlier to compensate.
As for solving the power issue with customization, that's much more simple, in the form of just a bit of hoop lead, either from what you added to 6 o'clock via the above MGR/i customization, or, a bit at 12 o'clock. This will bump up the swing weight into the mid-upper 320's (or beyond) and likely supply the extra hitting force you're looking for.
Beyond that, if you're really looking for a new frame that has both a lower default launch angle and higher power-to-weight ratio, here's what I'd suggest trying:
- Tecnifibre ISO 305 (305g 98" 18x19 22.5mm beam, 338SW - Under-spec if possible, w/ leather grip
- Volkl V8 Pro (300g 100" 18x20 22/24/22mm beam, 316SW) - Will need 3-5g lead at 12
- Wilson Shift 99 Pro (315g 99" 18x20 23.5mm beam, 332SW)
- Yonex Percept 100D (305g 100" 18x19 23mm beam, 318SW) - Will need 3-5g lead at 12, or 10 & 2
Hope at least some of that helps. Any questions, feel free.
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KC!
Hall of Fame
The new Angell React MP Pro 99 18x19 with a 21 mm beam is probably the closest thing to it. A few people who’ve switched from the 100P to the React have commented they hit a heavier ball with the React. As far as shot trajectory, you may check your grip on your forehand to make sure you’re rotating it enough. A kid at my club was having issues with his forehands flying & I asked him to show me his grip. It was more in between a continental/eastern grip, than a semi western grip. He just wasn’t rotating his racquet enough. He started being mindful of it & started hitting a much better ball.
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I have needlessly changed racquets a few times before realising that I could get what I want with lead tape, leather grip and trying different strings etc and working on my technique, so as others have said you could explore that.
Unless you just want to buy a new racquet, because, why not?
Unless you just want to buy a new racquet, because, why not?
The reason why the trajectory is higher is that the racquet is more flexible than prior Tour 100P models. The throat is now thinner and the RA stiffness rating is down to 62/63; when the racquet bends it slightly opens the racquet face. You could try a deader string to see if that helps. The outgoing Head Auxetic Prestige 99 sq. inch has a 66 RA and a dense string pattern - it might be a good replacement.
mmazzinin1
Semi-Pro
Frankly, the ATS Tour 100P does not have not a high launch angle...quite the opposite, at least that is my view. Amazing racquet- such a balanced blend of everything in a super comfy package, with the plus of (stable) maneuverability
