Racquets that give you that "sinking" feeling?

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If there is one thing that I look for in a racquet it is the ability for it to pocket the ball. There seems to be very few (if any) of the newer sticks available that gives me that kind of feeling. The best racquet that I've played for pocketing the ball was the MW200G, but hard to find these days. Also, I loved the "thuddy" feel of the MW, about the only thing that I've tried that comes close is the PC 600. Please list some sticks (new or old) that best give you that "sinking" feeling.
 
I've had that feeling with the n6-1 tour, but the 95 with poly mains at a low tension is an absolute sledgehammer.
 
jdeloach said:
The RDX500 MP has a nice sinking , buttery feel.
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Thanks jdeloach. I havn't tried the the RDX 500 MP, but I do have the midsize version of the RDX 500 and it does give me a little of this pocketing feeling, just not as much as I would like. I heard the Pro Kennex Redondo Mid/MP has the pocketing thing, but from what I gather around here is they (PK) are now history.
 
Is this pocketing feeling you're feeling similar to the feeling on the racquets with enlarged grommets for more string movement like O3 racquets, NXG, and some of the volkl racquets like the different versions of V1 over the years?

O3 tour MP has a really incredible pocketing feeling if thats the similar feeling you're talking about. Flexible frame + enlarged grommets = incredible pocketing feeling. Add on open string pattern and it's a wicked spin machine.
 
My Estusa PBB gives me that feeling. It's strung low with gut and when you hit the lower half of the stringbed (it's wider down there), the ball just sinks in and you can get great spins--just wicked. Side spins, high spins.. all types.

I've heard such things about the RDX500. The POG must do this as well considering the open string bed.
 
When I was about 16-17, I had a few of the Wilson Pro Select 90.. Only racquet to this day, that I was one with, and gave me that pop!.. Just moved into the nPro Staff 95 hoping that it will be the next..
 
Pushmaster said:
The best racquet that I've played for pocketing the ball was the MW200G, but hard to find these days. Also, I loved the "thuddy" feel of the MW, about the only thing that I've tried that comes close is the PC 600. Please list some sticks (new or old) that best give you that "sinking" feeling.
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I just acquired a couple of MW 200G. What tension do you recommend for them? I'd love to try them out compared to the RDX 500.

Thanks.

BTW I also recommend the RDX 500 for that "sinking" feeling.

How about a Pro Tour 280? Would that work too?:)
 
It's not even CLOSE. The Yonex RQ-180 has an extremely exaggerated ball pocketing effect that the RDX Mid doesn't even come close to approaching. The throat on this stick flexes like nothing I've tried including the RD-7 which is second place in this regard. The OPS on the RQ-180 is extremely pronounced and aggressively shaped.

Btw, having owned and been sponsored by Head before, I've used all the Prestiges, 280s, Radical Tours, Pyramid Tours, etc. NONE of them give a "sinking" feeling in my opinion, magical-mystical twaron properties or not. They may give a flexible feeling, but that's a totally different distinction from a sinking feeling in my opinion. Flexible feeling rackets have a more uniform flex response, they feel soft, but they don't give that cupping/catpult/lingering sling shot/type effect of OPS rackets, particularly strung low, or swung hard enough to make for a crushing impact response.

The RD-7 and RQ-180 more so than any other rackets I've tried, have this feeling. The RD-3 which has the same mold as the RD-7...except for one KEY thing...the oval pressed shaft which is designed to flex the racket at the throat/shaft area on impact...does not. The RD-3 is a fiberglass filled graphite racket that is noticeably more flexible than the RD-7 which is already one of the most flexible modern rackets ever made. The RD-3 then by comparison is beyond flexible by today's standards. HOWEVER, it does not have that cupping/sinking in feel like the RD-7. The flex is homogenous and in that sense the racket gives a firmer, more predictable response on impact. By firm, I don't mean stiff or crisp per say, I mean think of it like hitting with one of those plastic cutting boards. They have a certain give and softness to them, yet are still a solid one piece object. That's what it feels like hitting with. It's like the difference between a cushy bed but standard bed vs. a memory foam design. One contours to you and is more dynamically reactive. The former is not better or worse, just a different design. Both are soft, but just in different ways. It's what you prefer.
 
Thanks for the input !Tym. I was thinking about grabbing a couple of those Yonex frames last year, but I whimped out - esp. when I couldn't find specs on the 180. A frame that is flexible in all the right places is truly special and my search is still underway.
 
You might try:

- Gamma 7.0 MP

- ProKennex Redondo

- or, if you want to go into the past, any of the Kneissl Masters series racquets.

Of course, for these racquets the lower the string tension the more the pocketing.
 
I agree with bluegrasser! The LM Prestige provided me with great ball pocketing with a Wilson Sensation 16 at 48-50 lbs. The racquet has a good flexible feel and with the lower tension strings allowed the ball to sit on the stringbed forever. I got great spin, really nice touch and power when I flattened the ball out more. I could apply good jump on my serve without swinging too hard on my 2nd serve. I did not get great rpms, but the ball did jump up on the court really well.
 
frekcles said:
I just acquired a couple of MW 200G. What tension do you recommend for them? I'd love to try them out compared to the RDX 500.

Thanks.

BTW I also recommend the RDX 500 for that "sinking" feeling.

How about a Pro Tour 280? Would that work too?:)
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I strung my MW's with NRG2 18g at 57lbs., but nat gut is the best with this stick if you can afford it. 17g or 18g (better yet) will open things up a bit for better spin. The RDX 500 mid doesn't come close to the sweet cupping feel of the MW 200G IMO, but I'll let you decide. Had the Pro Tour 630 w/caps for awhile but just wasn't my "cup" of tea. Lol
 
pocketing effect

I feel the pocketing feeling with my PS tour 90. IMO, the pocketing effect is due to the following reasons:

1. soft and thin string; 2. Low string tension; 3. heavier racquet; 4. stiff racquet;

If you like the "sinking" feeling, those are the factors you got to consider. If you swing faster, you get more pocketing and also get more spin (due to bigger contact of string with the ball). Don't kill me if I am wrong. :D
 
The best ball pocketing I ever had was in my pants. Haaaaaar. Seriously though, the 6.0 95 is probably the closest thing I could find in my experiences that matches your description.
 
All the Yonex player's frames I have played are stiff but flexing cushion
feeling like pocketing.

Rcently, Head FXP Prestige has a bit of pocketing feel, I think.
 
The Yonex RDX 500 MP w/ a Multi, lower than mid tension. Or i found (eventhough i'm not abig fan of the stick) the Fischer MSpeed 98 with a multi, lower tension.
 
Pushmaster said:
I strung my MW's with NRG2 18g at 57lbs., but nat gut is the best with this stick if you can afford it. 17g or 18g (better yet) will open things up a bit for better spin. The RDX 500 mid doesn't come close to the sweet cupping feel of the MW 200G IMO, but I'll let you decide. Had the Pro Tour 630 w/caps for awhile but just wasn't my "cup" of tea. Lol
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Thanks Pushmaster. I'll try NRG2 18g. Can't afford nat gut.
 
Sigi said:
You might try:

- Gamma 7.0 MP

- ProKennex Redondo

- or, if you want to go into the past, any of the Kneissl Masters series racquets.

Of course, for these racquets the lower the string tension the more the pocketing.
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I have owned both of these and agree... Great control
 
OnyxZ28 said:
The best ball pocketing I ever had was in my pants. Haaaaaar. Seriously though, the 6.0 95 is probably the closest thing I could find in my experiences that matches your description.
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How about the Wilson Titanic for that sinking feeling?

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Pocketing is a string function rather then a racket. Soft multi strings at lower tension will give that pocketing effect. Natural gut will be also good
 
OnyxZ28 said:
The best ball pocketing I ever had was in my pants. Haaaaaar. Seriously though, the 6.0 95 is probably the closest thing I could find in my experiences that matches your description.
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I played with the PS 6.0 95 on and off for about a 1 1/2 years and had to finally give up on it because of elbow pain. Unfortunately my elbow was about the only thing that got the "sinking" feeling, lol.
 
Pushmaster said:
If there is one thing that I look for in a racquet it is the ability for it to pocket the ball. There seems to be very few (if any) of the newer sticks available that gives me that kind of feeling. The best racquet that I've played for pocketing the ball was the MW200G, but hard to find these days. Also, I loved the "thuddy" feel of the MW, about the only thing that I've tried that comes close is the PC 600. Please list some sticks (new or old) that best give you that "sinking" feeling.
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The reality is that for equal stringbed stiffnesses, there is very little variation on how long the ball remains on the strings regardless of how stiff the racquet is (within a range typical for most racquets). If a racquet flexes, it acts as if the impact velocity were just a bit lower, which also has relatively small effects on dwell time.

The "thuddy" feel probably just results from lower density materials that dampen the amplitude of the initial impact and spread out the impact energy over a longer timeframe. This would give the impression of the ball being on the strings a long time because the racquet is vibrating for a longer period, while the reality is that the ball is long gone.
 
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