Raducanu's Draw Revisited?

Strength of Raducanu's 2021 USO Draw?

  • Fair.

    Votes: 20 33.3%
  • Easier than generally speaking.

    Votes: 15 25.0%
  • Soft.

    Votes: 12 20.0%
  • Gift.

    Votes: 13 21.7%

  • Total voters
    60

zvelf

Hall of Fame
I think the fact that she had to win 10 matches (3 more than the qualified players) in order to win the tournament kind of compensates for any perceived softness in her draw.
Yep. Raducanu did have any easy draw but once you add on that she had to win 3 additional matches, it's not so easy. Then add on the fact that she easily beat almost everyone she played in only her second major, well, that makes her enormously impressive even with that draw.

She got a CUPCAKE. Super Lucky. I don't remember a WEAKER draw EVER. That is why she won the UsOpen.

I mean it's a great story and all - but luck runs out. Watch her not making even the final weekend in ALL slams in 2021.
Your certainty that Djokovic was going to win the USO creates a lot of doubt as to your future prognostications.
 

R. Schweikart

Professional
She got a CUPCAKE. Super Lucky. I don't remember a WEAKER draw EVER. That is why she won the UsOpen.

I mean it's a great story and all - but luck runs out. Watch her not making even the final weekend in ALL slams in 2021.
As she gets older she will improve and then maybe she can win another slam.
You might have a point if Raducanu had only squeaked past her opponents.
But so you comment is embarrassingly unintelligent.
 

Chanwan

G.O.A.T.
She got a CUPCAKE. Super Lucky. I don't remember a WEAKER draw EVER. That is why she won the UsOpen.

I mean it's a great story and all - but luck runs out. Watch her not making even the final weekend in ALL slams in 2021.
What a gutsy prediction! Imagine the horror of not even being able to make one single slam final in your first full year on the tour!! That's what I would call an absolute failure.

As is your poast. Go dump your sh*t elsewhere, will you? Thanks
 

Wander

Hall of Fame
We can reflect on the draw and Raducanu's performance when she has had a chance to play some tournaments on the main tour, as well as another Major or two. What is there to say now except that she beat everybody she had to beat easily and that the veterans did very poorly at this tournament.

If Raducanu somehow ends up a 1-Slam-wonder, it'll be very easy to point fingers at the draw opening up here to make this possible. If, on the other hand, she wins several in the coming years, all this talk can be basically neglected.

In any case, she did something no man or woman has ever done. That's over 400 Grand Slam tournaments before 2021 US Open where this feat could've happened. That's over 6000 qualifiers who have tried and failed. Some of those qualifiers had pretty easy draws open up for them too.

Emma Raducanu is the only one who succeeded.
 

3loudboys

Legend
She made history entertaining the tennis world without dropping a set, a breath of fresh air - so to the salty churlish naysayers looking for ways to undermine her achievements......


Edit - yes that’s 10 matches in a grand slam in row without losing a set....

 

goldengate14

Professional
You can only beat who is put in front of you.

She also played THREE more matches than anyone else who has ever won a tennis tournament, and was the lower ranked player in every one of her main draw matches. Can’t people just accept that she played lights out tennis for the entire three weeks?
The jealousy towatds Emma is pathetic. She best the woman who best the world no.1. She deserved the win and is definitely the story of tennis for past many years. Cannot understand why people cannot be happy for a gorgeous teenager who made history
 

goldengate14

Professional
She made history entertaining the tennis world without dropping a set, a breath of fresh air - so to the salty churlish naysayers looking for ways to undermine her achievements......


Edit - yes that’s 10 matches in a grand slam in row without losing a set....

People wanted history at Us Open. They got it. Best grand slam event in living memory . Surpasses W1985
 

Marfrilau

Rookie
I'd call it one of the softest draws in memory which makes sense for a qualifier to win it.
Even if it was one of the softest draws in memory it still doesn't make much sense that a qualifier won it. She still had to win 7 matches against opponents ranked higher than her.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
What i want to know is what happened in the Bencic match. Bencic may have been injured in the previous match,,, didn't look like she was 100 % all match long. This was a match Bencic normally pulls thru on against a player with no overwhelming weapons like Serena. but didn't look good all match, Emma really took advantage of that.
 

Arak

Hall of Fame
What i want to know is what happened in the Bencic match. Bencic may have been injured in the previous match,,, didn't look like she was 100 % all match long. This was a match Bencic normally pulls thru on against a player with no overwhelming weapons like Serena. but didn't look good all match, Emma really took advantage of that.
Bencic was showing “the face”. It’s the face that looks between crying, anger and despair similar to the one of Djokovic during the final. Every time I see it the player loses invariably.
 

Dolgopolov85

G.O.A.T.
What i want to know is what happened in the Bencic match. Bencic may have been injured in the previous match,,, didn't look like she was 100 % all match long. This was a match Bencic normally pulls thru on against a player with no overwhelming weapons like Serena. but didn't look good all match, Emma really took advantage of that.
I don't know if you actually watched the match but Raducanu actually spotted her an early lead in the first set. But she regrouped quickly and came back. If you want to understand part of the reason why, look at Bencic's strange forehand and compare it to Raducanu's fluid extension on the same shot.

Also, Bencic lost in straight sets to Andreescu in 2019 US Open semis too and Andreescu is no Serena either. Bencic isn't all that you think she is. She's good, she's solid, but quite beatable.
 

Arak

Hall of Fame
Well, we have here either the second coming of Steffi Graf or at worst an excellent player who consistently reaches advanced rounds in tournaments. What she is not is a fluke. I’m pretty sure about that.
 

Dolgopolov85

G.O.A.T.
Well, we have here either the second coming of Steffi Graf or at worst an excellent player who consistently reaches advanced rounds in tournaments. What she is not is a fluke. I’m pretty sure about that.
Yeah, I think the 'gassed' excuse doesn't wash. The more likely explanation for why players with the experience of Bencic or Sakkari couldn't problem solve their way out of their matches against Raducanu is that her style of tennis is different and they have simply not seen enough of her to deal with it. In fact, you can see that at times Sakkari succeeded with some patterns like the one time she took on the early return and hit it right back to Raducanu (who was too far in to have time to handle it). But the very fact that Raducanu wasn't serving up the usual highlights why she is, at minimum, dangerous. Whether she will be a phenomenon or not is what we will come to know over the next few years.
 
Yes, because Raducanu is not a qualifier anymore. She's already rank 23. She will be seeded for Indian Wells if she plays there.
Imho, her team would be silly to schedule Raducanu to play at IW this year. She has plenty of time on her hands. Enjoy the great US Open win and gear up for a big 2022 starting with AO. Perhaps even skip the Clay Court season and focus on the grass court season. She has unfinished business at Wimbledon.
 

Dolgopolov85

G.O.A.T.
Imho, her team would be silly to schedule Raducanu to play at IW this year. She has plenty of time on her hands. Enjoy the great US Open win and gear up for a big 2022 starting with AO. Perhaps even skip the Clay Court season and focus on the grass court season. She has unfinished business at Wimbledon.
Yeah, no disagreement there. I think she should play a limited schedule and not overexpose herself to opponents who will now be chasing her as the woman to beat. I was just making a comment to that other poster that Raducanu is now no more a mere qualifier but a seed at major tournaments.
 

Gary Duane

G.O.A.T.
She still had to win 10 matches and with her lack of experience, I think she did great.
It's an amazing achievement, so even if she does not become an ATG superstar, it will remain a super story. I suspect in a couple more years we will know a lot more. Most of all it's good to remember that when the next ATG bursts on the scene, for men or women, it's only clear why it happened in hindsight. Wouldn't it be wonderful to have a young guy do this in the future!
 
Yeah. For sure. Will be interesting to see if she is in it for the long haul or not. So many people assume younger tennis players that have a big win or two early are automatically looking to play for many years. But Raducanu seems to have a lot of feathers to her bow. Hopefully, if she is looking at a longer term playing career, she just takes it slowly for the first couple of years and is very selective about the tournaments she plays.

If Tim Henman has a lot of influence over her schedule, he will definitely be focusing on getting her ready for Wimbledon. A "British" player winning the Wimbledon Title again would be mega for Henman.

The thought of a Barty -v- Raducanu Final at Wimbledon is salivating!
 

Dolgopolov85

G.O.A.T.
Yeah. For sure. Will be interesting to see if she is in it for the long haul or not. So many people assume younger tennis players that have a big win or two early are automatically looking to play for many years. But Raducanu seems to have a lot of feathers to her bow. Hopefully, if she is looking at a longer term playing career, she just takes it slowly for the first couple of years and is very selective about the tournaments she plays.

If Tim Henman has a lot of influence over her schedule, he will definitely be focusing on getting her ready for Wimbledon. A "British" player winning the Wimbledon Title again would be mega for Henman.

The thought of a Barty -v- Raducanu Final at Wimbledon is salivating!
While Raducanu winning Wimbledon would be a marketer's dream come true, I don't think that should be the 'goal' for her. The goal should be just to keep getting better. She played better at USO than at Wimbledon this year. She needs to take the learnings from USO to play better at the next Wimbledon. The results will follow. Graf used to say except one or two players who pushed her to play better (Seles? ;) ), mostly she was competing against herself. That's what Raducanu needs to do as well. And if I am reading her correctly, I think that is what she intends to do as well. To not make a slam win the new baseline of achievement but to continue on the path that took her to this triumph.
 

MS_07

Rookie
Oh I think she would have beat Osaka and maybe Kerber but not Svitolina/Sabalenko combo.
Easy two rounds then Muchova in the 3rd, Barty in the 4th, Swiatek in QF, Pliskova/Andreescu in SF and either Sabalenka or Svitolina. I am discounting Osaka of course as I don't think her head was in it at all.
With Leylah's draw she's likely to lose in-between
but that's true for many top players these days

easy draw - true
 
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