Rafa should try FO 2025.

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I think he has it in him now that he seems healthy. I'd like to see him gear up and give it one last go. Skip everything but play Monte Carlo and Rome and then FO.
 
So between Olympics to now he has not played a single sanctioned match and for you his chances have miraculously gone up?

Come on. Be serious. Without proof only thing you can say is he is even worse now than before.
He played great in indoor hard against djoker at 6 kings which is his worst surface.
 
Also he should start taking whatever juice lebron has been on since miami and that would help too.
 
He played great in indoor hard against djoker at 6 kings which is his worst surface.
Right. That match had no consequence so Djokovic let him play at that level. Do you think if that match was step towards 6 million , will he even be competitive?
 
I agree that he should. He already had his old man phase play out so there's nothing left to protect or lose, it would be fun to see him give it a shot and build a last head of steam.
 
Also he should start taking whatever juice lebron has been on since miami and that would help too.

I am extremely open minded regarding this, that's how freakishly good LeBron is at 40, but there needs to be some kind of evidence.
 
Just eyeballing, Nadal was 12-8 for this year with just 4 matches out of clay.

On clay he was 10-6 with huge benefits like players like Leo Borg and IMG guy Darwin Blanch. These are not even top 300 players.

He was 6-6 vs top 100 players on clay. 6 big losses. Barcelona/Madrid/Rome/RG/Bastaad/Olympics.

How does OP think he has shot for another RG?
 
Just eyeballing, Nadal was 12-8 for this year with just 4 matches out of clay.

On clay he was 10-6 with huge benefits like players like Leo Borg and IMG guy Darwin Blanch. These are not even top 300 players.

He was 6-6 vs top 100 players on clay. 6 big losses. Barcelona/Madrid/Rome/RG/Bastaad/Olympics.

How does OP think he has shot for another RG?
He wasn't healthy. and the match with chainz could have easily went either way at RG.
 
i wish today had been on clay to gauge nadals level and that other loser didn't play the match of his life. hard to gauge rafas level on a fast indoor hard no matter who he plays.
 
He wasn't healthy. and the match with chainz could have easily went either way at RG.
Not really close. He was close during sets and Sascha can do that vs almost anyone. Sascha went 5 vs Alcaraz the reigning champ as well as Griekspoor who is very bad on clay.

So that match having close sets, not even close match, says very little. Its just one of Sascha things, which is why he is loser.
 
When Nadal was a teenager, it was hard to believe that he'd still be playing at age 30 considering his playing style.

At the time of the 2005 French Open, Brad Gilbert backed Nadal to win 7-10 majors, including multiple French Opens, and wins at the Australian and US Opens. LOL.
 
Come on OP, this is a sick joke. Hasn't he done enough for his fans, or do you really want to see him spend the rest of his life in a wheelchair?

He's not going to end up in a wheelchair, people said the same thing about Murray

Funny how these "please retire for your own good!" pleas never come from the guy's own fans, always from another fanbase (or a rival's father in the case of Srdjan telling Fed to go home and be with his family while he was still a T10 player)
 
I know you want this as someone that finally started appreciating Nadal this year, but it's too late. He's done

We will see, sir

I'm just going off what came out of his mouth

I've been appreciating him for a while but in 2022 I actually started to kinda like him. And I could watch his press conferences for days lol
 
He's not going to end up in a wheelchair, people said the same thing about Murray

Funny how these "please retire for your own good!" pleas never come from the guy's own fans, always from another fanbase (or a rival's father in the case of Srdjan telling Fed to go home and be with his family while he was still a T10 player)
Actually most Nadal fans have accepted it for the best he retires. You will always get some deluded hardcore fans who can’t let go but most reasonable nadal fans know this is the right time to bow out.
 
He's not going to end up in a wheelchair, people said the same thing about Murray

Funny how these "please retire for your own good!" pleas never come from the guy's own fans, always from another fanbase (or a rival's father in the case of Srdjan telling Fed to go home and be with his family while he was still a T10 player)
The point is, when is enough a enough? He's done because he simply cannot give anymore, if he could, he would.
 
The point is, when is enough a enough? He's done because he simply cannot give anymore, if he could, he would.
No need to take this any further.
Nadal is retired. He should not come back. Not even for just 1 tournament. That would be like a broken promise.

We have been through a lot.
 
well Zverev did. The dude who made the RG final. So if he can get just get that momentum rolling maybe it will trigger some muscle and brain response of his GOAT level. There’s a lot of bums on tour
You do understand that it is movement, yes? And his movement is gone, no matter where he plays? The worse thing would be losing to those bums on a court he once owned. Zverev loss was at least to someone respectful as far as talent goes.
 
You do understand that it is movement, yes? And his movement is gone, no matter where he plays? The worse thing would be losing to those bums on a court he once owned. Zverev loss was at least to someone respectful as far as talent goes.


His movement has been compromised for years. Probably since 2013-2014. . He can work around it still. I mean Fed was one point away from beating Djoker at Wimbledon at 38. Nadal can figure something out for just one run. Call in a different coaching team and go all in. tear his shoulder on two for a slam and go all in with aces. There are options
 
His movement has been compromised for years. Probably since 2013-2014. . He can work around it still. I mean Fed was one point away from beating Djoker at Wimbledon at 38. Nadal can figure something out for just one run. Call in a different coaching team and go all in.
Even 2006 to early 2009 Nadal wasn't quite as fast as 2005 Nadal.

Federer wasn't quite 38 at the time of the 2019 Wimbledon final, i.e. still 37.
 
Nadal was diagnosed with Mueller-Weiss syndrome in early November 2005, cutting his tennis year short and briefly threatening an early end to his tennis career. Nadal had won 11 tournaments in 2005, which remained the most number of tournaments that Nadal won in a calendar year.

Nadal wasn't quite as fast in 2006 to early 2009. In the 2009 clay season, Nadal's movement isn't what it was at the 2009 Australian Open. In 2014, Nadal's movement was slower again following the Australian Open final against Wawrinka. In 2015-2016, Nadal was doubling down on the old way of playing, like it was 10 years previously. In 2017, a new approach of saving movement for when he really needs it and end points quicker.
 
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