Rafa winning Roland Garros 12 times is the greatest achievement of the greatest era of men's tennis.

octobrina10

G.O.A.T.
Not really to be honest.

Fed losing at the FO was not the same impact as Nadal's defeat. That match was incredible.
Rafa's loss to Sod made Fed devotees soooo happy that they have unstoppably been celebrating it for over 10 years (TTW is proof).
But every time Fed devotees mention Rafa's loss, it reminds me of Fed's loss to Sod at the FO in 2010. :cool:
 

clayqueen

G.O.A.T.
You know, there is nothing wrong with being outplayed at a tournament ONE TIME when in decent form or better. Prime Federer lost in Wimbledon to Nadal, prime Djokovic lost in AO to Wawrinka. They all lose sometimes.
Rafa owns Federer so that's not a good example. Federer only had the better of Rafa recently because Rafa was not playing 100% fit.
 

Sartorius

Hall of Fame
Rafa owns Federer so that's not a good example. Federer only had the better of Rafa recently because Rafa was not playing 100% fit.
Oh yes. Everyone knows by now that the greatest achievement of the greatest era of men's tennis is Rafa never playing 100% fit when he loses.
 

clayqueen

G.O.A.T.
You know, there is nothing wrong with being outplayed at a tournament ONE TIME when in decent form or better. Prime Federer lost in Wimbledon to Nadal, prime Djokovic lost in AO to Wawrinka. They all lose sometimes.
What about when Rafa beat Fedr in AO 2009? Rafa beats Fedr regularly, it's not news.
 

clayqueen

G.O.A.T.
You guys are so jealous that Rafa is the undisputed King of Clay that you have to post venom and hatred in a thread that's supposed to celebrate his achievement.
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
Fans who actually watched tennis back then would never take away credit from Soderling. His performance that day was scary.
there are quite a few sore nadal fans who do.

As for Federer-well yes, it's a fact that Soderling helped him a lot.
Soderling taking out Nadal did help Fed. Don't have a problem with people saying that as long as it is kept in perspective.
But mud is thrown around saying Nadal being injured was the reason Fed won in RG 2009. Quite different.

RG 2009 wasn't even his best RG performance IMO (2011 was better for sure) but he had extra motivation starting from the fourth round because he knew Nadal lost.
QF-F in RG 2009 was excellent, but overall yes, it was below 06,07, 11 and arguably even 2005.
After Nadal lost, there was immense pressure on Federer. he was clearly nervous in the Haas match and had to produce a clutch I/O Fh to save himself down BP late in the 3rd set -- Haas would've served for the match.
Had to pull out a 5-set win vs a GOATing delpo in the semi as well.
 
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