Rafael Nadal eyes return to competitive tennis at Monte Carlo

fafa

Semi-Pro
Nobody expects Spanish pre-clay intermission.

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Is that Daniil in the middle?
 

CoolCoolCool

Hall of Fame
They had to use a dye or something in the bricks to make it blue. That changed the normal crushed brick behavior and made it slippery.
Another explanation was that it had nothing to do with what they used to make it blue. Moya thought that was about the salt they used, and there were other theories.

Novak is the Hair GOAT.
Nobody has better hair at his age among elite tennis players 35+
I mean, having great hair is not just about not losing any.
 

Razer

Legend
I mean, having great hair is not just about not losing any.

Yeah if just retaining hair is what matters then even Stan has retained good enough hair at 38 compared to his younger versions. However Novak is a cut above, his hair has always been the densest, no signs of baldness at all, he is as great as ever with fairly very little loss.

Nadal is the one who has lost the most hair,
 

The_Order

G.O.A.T.
Houston we have a problem... Nadal is returning to the tour after recovering from injury.

Oh, it happens to be on clay... miracle, he is always recovered for clay.

8 week recovery period has ended at 8 weeks! Shocking!!

He should just take a few months off for the hell of it just to prove his doubters wrong...
 

maratha_warrior

Hall of Fame
Can someone make this list of Injury absence period for Federer and Djokovic ??

We should know exact numbers of all three .
We would know which player plays consistent throughout year and which players plays only during few periods and on favourite surfaces and rests during other seasons .

Knowing exactly numbers will help to not be unfair towards anyone .
 

victorcruz

Hall of Fame
The clay heals him and I welcome it. Miss him a lot and I know the end is near, so soak it up guys. Lovers, haters, undertakers, we all gotta enjoy him for as long as we got him.
 

vive le beau jeu !

Talk Tennis Guru
Houston we have a problem... Nadal is returning to the tour after recovering from injury.

Oh, it happens to be on clay... miracle, he is always recovered for clay.

8 week recovery period has ended at 8 weeks! Shocking!!

He should just take a few months off for the hell of it just to prove his doubters wrong...
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it's a miracle... a miracle!!!
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they always fall for it, hombre... cada año!
 

_phantom

Hall of Fame
Can someone make this list of Injury absence period for Federer and Djokovic ??

We should know exact numbers of all three .
We would know which player plays consistent throughout year and which players plays only during few periods and on favourite surfaces and rests during other seasons .

Knowing exactly numbers will help to not be unfair towards anyone .
The stat in that twitter post isn't authentic either. But it serves the purpose of trollsters.

Post some numbers here directly and people will question the veracity. But if you make/find a fictitious post on twitter and link to it here, people will fall for it immediately
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
It changes and rotates. For a long time it was the knee, then we started focusing on the foot and somehow there was a magic foot cure.
Hi, Rafa basher! I am again wondering why Rafa bashers are keen to demonstrate a low knowledge (or cheat readers). :unsure:

1) Rafa underwent PRP treatment on his knees in 2010 (in April & July) and stem cell treatment on his left knee at the end of 2013.

2) Doctors told Rafa in 2005, when the congenital anomaly in his left foot started to cause him pain while playing tennis, that he might never be able to play tennis again. Since then, he has worn a special insole (designed by doctors and modified when necessary) in his tennis shoe (and Nike has made his shoes wider and higher than normal shoes) to take the weight off the troublesome bone, but this has caused problems with muscles and tendons at the knee as the weight in his leg is subtly shifted, also problems in the back and thighs...(Source: Rafa's autobiography titled "Rafa: My Story", published in 2011.)

The congenital anomaly won't disappear, pain levels change. He has played through pain since the anomaly came to light in 2005.

3) Radiofrequency Ablation (RFA) does not cure the condition, it only provides temporary pain relief. It just "burns" nerves and thus blocks the pain signals that the nerves send to the brain. Nerves regenerate themselves after the procedure and another procedure needs to be performed. Rafa has undergone the procedure on his left foot several times since he started to use it in summerr 2022.
The only permanent cure for his congenital left foot problem is surgery, but it would decrease mobility of the foot and thus end his career as a pro tennis player.
 
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platypus50

Semi-Pro
Colour me shocked, Mr April to June was always going to return playing competitive matches at Monte Carlo, lol at anyone who thought he'd play another HC tournament after AO and before MC.

15th RG and 23rd slam incoming for Rafael Nadal on Sunday 11th June 2023 - book it
 

LETitBE

Hall of Fame
Hi, Rafa basher! I am again wondering why Rafa bashers are keen to demonstrate a low knowledge (or cheat readers). :unsure:

1) Rafa underwent PRP treatment on his knees in 2010 (in April & July) and stem cell treatment on his left knee at the end of 2013.

2) Doctors told Rafa in 2005, when the congenital anomaly in his left foot started to cause him pain while playing tennis, that he might never be able to play tennis again. Since then, he has worn a special insole (designed by doctors and modified when necessary) in his tennis shoe (and Nike has made his shoes wider and higher than normal shoes) to take the weight off the troublesome bone, but this has caused problems with muscles and tendons at the knee as the weight in his leg is subtly shifted, also problems in the back and thighs...(Source: Rafa's autobiography titled "Rafa: My Story", published in 2011.)

The congenital anomaly won't disappear, pain levels change. He has played through pain since the anomaly came to light in 2005.

3) Radiofrequency Ablation (RFA) does not cure the condition, it only provides temporary pain relief. It just "burns" nerves and thus blocks the pain signals that the nerves send to the brain. Nerves regenerate themselves after the procedure and another procedure needs to be performed. Rafa has undergone the procedure on his left foot several times since he started to use it in summerr 2022.
The only permanent cure for his congenital left foot problem is surgery, but it would decrease mobility of the foot and thus end his career as a pro tennis player.
how did he heal his knees?
 
Hi, Rafa basher! I am again wondering why Rafa bashers are keen to demonstrate a low knowledge (or cheat readers). :unsure:

1) Rafa underwent PRP treatment on his knees in 2010 (in April & July) and stem cell treatment on his left knee at the end of 2013.

2) Doctors told Rafa in 2005, when the congenital anomaly in his left foot started to cause him pain while playing tennis, that he might never be able to play tennis again. Since then, he has worn a special insole (designed by doctors and modified when necessary) in his tennis shoe (and Nike has made his shoes wider and higher than normal shoes) to take the weight off the troublesome bone, but this has caused problems with muscles and tendons at the knee as the weight in his leg is subtly shifted, also problems in the back and thighs...(Source: Rafa's autobiography titled "Rafa: My Story", published in 2011.)

The congenital anomaly won't disappear, pain levels change. He has played through pain since the anomaly came to light in 2005.

3) Radiofrequency Ablation (RFA) does not cure the condition, it only provides temporary pain relief. It just "burns" nerves and thus blocks the pain signals that the nerves send to the brain. Nerves regenerate themselves after the procedure and another procedure needs to be performed. Rafa has undergone the procedure on his left foot several times since he started to use it in summerr 2022.
The only permanent cure for his congenital left foot problem is surgery, but it would decrease mobility of the foot and thus end his career as a pro tennis player.

He’s been injured and in pain since 2005, no? Amazing he’s not in wheelchair, no?
 

Texas Tennis Fan

Professional
Rafa gave everyone (on Twitter) clear information on January 19 that it will take 6-8 weeks to heal from his injury. Armchair doctors' predictions are meaningless.


Clay is softer than HC and more forgiving on a player's body (joints, tendons, ligaments.) I wonder why Rafa bahers don't want to accept the reality. :unsure:
Because then we will hear later in the season when he avoids hard courts where he is unlikely to win that "it was the grueling clay season with its long points that are so hard on his body that make it necessary for him to take time off." Which is it? Is it easy on his body? Then he should be fresh as a daisy for the rest of the year. Is it hard on his body? Then why such a huge discrepancy between "injuries" on clay where he has almost none and huge numbers on hard court?

Nadal is fooling no one except his fans who deny he is playing games to try to make his resume look better.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
Because then we will hear later in the season when he avoids hard courts where he is unlikely to win that "it was the grueling clay season with its long points that are so hard on his body that make it necessary for him to take time off." Which is it? Is it easy on his body? Then he should be fresh as a daisy for the rest of the year. Is it hard on his body? Then why such a huge discrepancy between "injuries" on clay where he has almost none and huge numbers on hard court?

Nadal is fooling no one except his fans who deny he is playing games to try to make his resume look better.
Rafa has never avoided HC and has never said: "It was the grueling clay season with its long points that are so hard on his body that make it necessary for him to take time off." This is just Rafa bashers' imagination. There is a big difference between Rafa bashers' imaginary stories and facts (this thread is yet another proof.)
 

Texas Tennis Fan

Professional
The stat in that twitter post isn't authentic either. But it serves the purpose of trollsters.

Post some numbers here directly and people will question the veracity. But if you make/find a fictitious post on twitter and link to it here, people will fall for it immediately
I have been pointing out that over 18 years Nadal almost never misses clay though he has frequent "injuries" the times of the year where he is less likely to win. I have not checked the numbers posted, but it sounds about right. Just go to wikipedia and see his playing history which makes no sense from an injury standpoint, but makes all the sense in the world for a player who wants to avoid Djokovic and Federer who he has not beaten off clay since 2013 and 2014 respectively. He hasn't even taken a set off of Djokovic on hard court since 2013 (19 sets straight and counting).
 

Kralingen

Bionic Poster
I basically think RG will come down to draw. The side that has only one of Nadal, Alcaraz, and Djokovic will win, while the side that has two of Nadal, Alcaraz, and Djokovic will probably be too gassed by the final and lose.
 

Texas Tennis Fan

Professional
Rafa has never avoided HC and has never said: "It was the grueling clay season with its long points that are so hard on his body that make it necessary for him to take time off." This is just Rafa bashers' imagination. There is a big difference between Rafa bashers' imaginary stories and facts (this thread is yet another proof.)
Not saying Nadal says it, but his fans have to come up with some story since his poor showing is embarrassing at Wimbledon for 10+ years, post US Open, and YEC zero wins and lots of skips. This is further highlighted by his clay skew with 64% slams wins on clay, 72% of Masters 1000 wins on clay, and 70% of all his tournaments. And no wins against Federer since 2014 or Djokovic since 2013.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
I have been pointing out that over 18 years Nadal almost never misses clay though he has frequent "injuries" the times of the year where he is less likely to win. I have not checked the numbers posted, but it sounds about right. Just go to wikipedia and see his playing history which makes no sense from an injury standpoint, but makes all the sense in the world for a player who wants to avoid Djokovic and Federer who he has not beaten off clay since 2013 and 2014 respectively. He hasn't even taken a set off of Djokovic on hard court since 2013 (19 sets straight and counting).
Rafa bashers have created the same imaginary stories about him for years.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
Not saying Nadal says it, but his fans have to come up with some story since his poor showing is embarrassing at Wimbledon for 10+ years, post US Open, and YEC zero wins and lots of skips. This is further highlighted by his clay skew with 64% slams wins on clay, 72% of Masters 1000 wins on clay, and 70% of all his tournaments. And no wins against Federer since 2014 or Djokovic since 2013.
Rafa fans have posted facts, his bashers have created imaginary stories. That's the difference between the fans and bashers.
 

Texas Tennis Fan

Professional
Rafa bashers have created the same imaginary stories about him for years.
It is the opposite, since Nadal lovers have had to make illogical excuses for him over the years. Nadal fans stating it is 'imaginary' or 'false' over and over again does not make it so. Please give a legitimate argument, not a statement without any backing.

The objective record speaks for itself. Look at the torunaments Nadal has played in over the last 18 years. Nadal is almost always available for clay, but then suffers mysterious injuries or exhaustion during the part of the season he is unlikely to win. This is not the way chronic injuries work. Yes, clay maybe is easier on the legs point by point, though Zverev might disagree. But then why does Nadal drop out because of 'the grueling clay season' according to his fans?

Try again and try to give a legitimate response, please.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
It is the opposite, since Nadal lovers have had to make illogical excuses for him over the years. Nadal fans stating it is 'imaginary' or 'false' over and over again does not make it so. Please give a legitimate argument, not a statement without any backing.

The objective record speaks for itself. Look at the torunaments Nadal has played in over the last 18 years. Nadal is almost always available for clay, but then suffers mysterious injuries or exhaustion during the part of the season he is unlikely to win. This is not the way chronic injuries work. Yes, clay maybe is easier on the legs point by point, though Zverev might disagree. But then why does Nadal drop out because of 'the grueling clay season' according to his fans?

Try again and try to give a legitimate response, please.
Rafa bashers have made false/illogical accusations against Rafa for years (since he started to beat Fed). So do you. Rafa's injuries have been well documented, it's your own fault that you are underinformed (and because of that are creating imaginary stories instead of sticking to the facts).
This thread (OP) is about Rafa returning to the tennis tour after an injury layoff. I wonder what's the purpose of your comments spitting venom. :unsure:
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Rafa bashers have made false/illogical accusations against Rafa for years (since he started to beat Fed). So do you. Rafa's injuries have been well documented, it's your own fault that you are underinformed (and because of that are creating imaginary stories instead of sticking to the facts).
This thread (OP) is about Rafa returning to the tennis tour after an injury layoff. I wonder what's the purpose of your comments spitting venom. :unsure:

Get him, keep him in the air :D

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Rattie

Legend
Not saying Nadal says it, but his fans have to come up with some story since his poor showing is embarrassing at Wimbledon for 10+ years, post US Open, and YEC zero wins and lots of skips. This is further highlighted by his clay skew with 64% slams wins on clay, 72% of Masters 1000 wins on clay, and 70% of all his tournaments. And no wins against Federer since 2014 or Djokovic since 2013.
He has reached the semis the last three Wimbledons. That’s poor is it? :rolleyes:
 
It changes and rotates. For a long time it was the knee, then we started focusing on the foot and somehow there was a magic foot cure.
Yeah the knee problem thing is probably most baffling thing to understand when Nadal's career and his history with injuries is in question. In many of the old YouTube videos you see him with a patch under his knees, in the first part of his career he took many off clay injury breaks because of the knee, many of his doctors and other team members were telling us constantly that the situation with the knee is really bad, chronic and pretty much incurable, many other experts, pundits, fans were speculating that because of the bad knee he will not last longer than 26, of course Nadal himself didn't shied off in every opportunity he had from telling us about the difficulty living with the chronic knee injury, the daily pain he is feeling in his knee and how scared he has been about his future living with a bad knee, and nobody was mentioning the fricking birth foot problem back then it was all about the knee, the knee, the knee. So what happened with the knee exactly. It's 2023 and we haven't heard about the chronic knee problem for almost 10 years now. So the problem must be solved, right? Right?:unsure:
how did he heal his knees?
Magic!? :unsure:
 

Texas Tennis Fan

Professional
Rafa bashers have made false/illogical accusations against Rafa for years (since he started to beat Fed). So do you. Rafa's injuries have been well documented, it's your own fault that you are underinformed (and because of that are creating imaginary stories instead of sticking to the facts).
This thread (OP) is about Rafa returning to the tennis tour after an injury layoff. I wonder what's the purpose of your comments spitting venom. :unsure:
I am fully informed. I am a physician for 40 years and know that injuries do not happen just in one part of the season and not another where the player is less likely to win. Again, you have given no explanation for why his injuries mysteriously appear almost always in non-clay season. Not spitting venom, just Nadal's playing history.
 

Texas Tennis Fan

Professional
OK, I grant you that. Nadal has done better in Wimbledon in recently after doing very poorly for years, probably because Moya had him hit flatter and work on his serve.

The issue remains to be explained by Nadal fans that his injury history is extreme so that he is almost always involved in clay and often complaining of injuries at other parts of the season. Those of us who are not Nadal fans believe it is gamesmanship and not a good look for an ATG and possible GOAT candidate.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
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The issue remains to be explained by Nadal fans that his injury history is extreme so that he is almost always involved in clay and often complaining of injuries at other parts of the season. Those of us who are not Nadal fans believe it is gamesmanship and not a good look for an ATG and possible GOAT candidate.
You believe false accusations made by Rafa bashers. It's no surprise, you yourself create them.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
I am fully informed. I am a physician for 40 years and know that injuries do not happen just in one part of the season and not another where the player is less likely to win. Again, you have given no explanation for why his injuries mysteriously appear almost always in non-clay season. Not spitting venom, just Nadal's playing history.
If you were a physician, you would have corresponding knowledge. You have demonstrated you don't have.
 

Texas Tennis Fan

Professional
You believe false accusations made by Rafa bashers. It's no surprise, you yourself create them.
I haven't created anything. Nadal created the issue with his gamesmanship of making almost 100% of the clay season over 18 years and then missing a far larger portion of the hard court season. It is not me, go look at wikipedia and see all the non-clay events he misses due to 'injury." (I am not saying he is never injured during hard court, he is doing the equivalent of a football player taking a dive and exaggerating the seriousness of the injury).
 
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