Rafael Nadal has pulled out of Laver Cup 2024

nolefam_2024 said:
Deal with what

Novak is holding olympics on same court beating Tsitsipas MugSetti and reigning RG champion Alcaraz

No one can say what will happen 9 months from now. What you say makes sense because probability of it happening is more than not.
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Yes, if I were a Novak fan like yourself, I wouldn't stop believing in Novak yet. Let's wait and see what he can bring at the first 3 Slams of 2025. People hurry up to retire him too soon!
 
helterskelter said:
I'll not believe Bull will lose at Roland Garros until I see him rotting.

According to the bookies, Djokovic is third favorite for RG 2025 at 7/2, narrowly behind second-favorite Sinner at 3/1. They have Alcaraz at 6/4, so some way ahead. (Nadal is sixth favorite).

But they are probably overestimating him relative to Sinner, as they have them as joint favorites for both the AO and UO, and Sinner is surely a better bet on hard courts.
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Those days are gone
This is now blind faith, movement completely gone.
Tennis is young men's sport. You already saw Rafa lose at RG 2 times in last 3 appearances. in R1 in straight sets no less.
 
Sport said:
Yes, if I were a Novak fan like yourself, I wouldn't stop believing in Novak yet. Let's wait and see what he can bring at the first 3 Slams of 2025. People hurry up to retire him too soon!
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I don't think he will win rg but if sineraz are not there I think he is strong contender. Who knows what will happen in 9 months
 
Nadal - “Right now I'm not in a position to win anything. I said that I would play until the Paris 2024 Olympic Games and then we would see, and I am in that time of rest.

Mentally, I am well. Zero problems physically too. I'm at home enjoying other things and training what I can daily.

These are the decisions that are being made and it was a possibility. I haven't competed for a while. There will be another player who would play better."
 
nolefam_2024 said:
Deal with what

Novak is holding olympics on same court beating Tsitsipas MugSetti and reigning RG champion Alcaraz

No one can say what will happen 9 months from now. What you say makes sense because probability of it happening is more than not.
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Compared with many of the outrageous predictions here, I think that saying a 38- or 39-year-old professional tennis player is not likely to win the FO, on slow clay, is reasonable. Of course, I could be wrong.
 
thrust said:
Compared with many of the outrageous predictions here, I think that saying a 38- or 39-year-old professional tennis player is not likely to win the FO, on slow clay, is reasonable. Of course, I could be wrong.
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He is third favorite with proven record. This year itself.
 
nolefam_2024 said:
He is third favorite with proven record. This year itself.
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He may have been the third favorite, but that was mostly based on his previous greatness at RG. He, IMO, played very well vs Zverev but still couldn't win that first round match. Had Rafa won that match, chances are, he would have gone downhill due to his age and physical condition. Again, Time Will Tell.
 
thrust said:
He may have been the third favorite, but that was mostly based on his previous greatness at RG. He, IMO, played very well vs Zverev but still couldn't win that first round match. Had Rafa won that match, chances are, he would have gone downhill due to his age and physical condition. Again, Time Will Tell.
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No
That is also based on this year. He has beaten Mugsetti 2 times, Tsitsipas and Alcaraz at PC. Even though his preparation was not 100% due to knee
 
jm1980 said:
If you are a Rafa fan, this is an excellent sign

His priorities should be to get healthy and have another go on clay next year. Not waste time and energy, and risk injury playing Fed's exho
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Never a good sign when your favorite player, near the end of his career, pulls out again and again event after event. But I do hope he can play one more AO, clay season and FO retire there.
 
Even if the record was stopped at 13, Sampras's choice of retirement was GOAT move of professional tennis player I think.

It is very hard to watch once the player ruled tennis world, act like this.
 
ruripi said:
Even if the record was stopped at 13, Sampras's choice of retirement was GOAT move of professional tennis player I think.

It is very hard to watch once the player ruled tennis world, act like this.
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I hate that type or retirement


LEAVING things on the table.
 
ruripi said:
Even if the record was stopped at 13, Sampras's choice of retirement was GOAT move of professional tennis player I think.

It is very hard to watch once the player ruled tennis world, act like this.
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The equivalent would've been Federer retiring after the AO 2017, after beating his long-time rival Nadal, just like Pete(r) defeated his all-time rival Andre at the USO 2002. Roger would've finished at 18 Slams, but no memories of W 2019 whatsoever.

You sure it's better to retire that early with that winning aura?
 
Sport said:
The equivalent would've been Federer retiring after the AO 2017, after beating his long-time rival Nadal, just like Pete(r) defeated his all-time rival Andre at the USO 2002. Roger would've finished at 18 Slams, but no memories of W 2019 whatsoever.

You sure it's better to retire that early with that winning aura?
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This is actually like cowardice. To save the aura, retire early?
No no. Federer Nadal way is better.
 
Sport said:
The equivalent would've been Federer retiring after the AO 2017, after beating his long-time rival Nadal, just like Pete(r) defeated his all-time rival Andre at the USO 2002. Roger would've finished at 18 Slams, but no memories of W 2019 whatsoever.

You sure it's better to retire that early with that winning aura?
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As a Fed fan, and after seeing many interviews, Fed would agree, I know that Fed did the right thing.

I would not trade even his AO18, let alone his WC17 for not having to live through WC19 tie.

You want every last moment because when it ends, it is forever.
 
MichaelNadal said:
Exactly, at least he’s not retiring there, and it means it would be in actual competition in 2025. The bad news is his body is still not ready. I hope he can heal, rest, train and give us all he has on the way out.
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I called this ages ago IF he had plans to play 2025. Frankly if he watched the USO surely that has motivated him to play a full calendar next season as Sinceraz apart, if fit he could definitely go deep at the slams. The standard on tour is absolutely woeful. Djokovic will have the same view as well. They are simply far better players than everyone else even today if healthy with the exception of a focussed Alcaraz and zoning Sinner.
Zverev being no.2 is a massive motivator...
 
Lleytonstation said:
As a Fed fan, and after seeing many interviews, Fed would agree, I know that Fed did the right thing.

I would not trade even his AO18, let alone his WC17 for not having to live through WC19 tie.

You want every last moment because when it ends, it is forever.
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Federer didnt retire out of choice. His knee gave out.
 
ruripi said:
Even if the record was stopped at 13, Sampras's choice of retirement was GOAT move of professional tennis player I think.

It is very hard to watch once the player ruled tennis world, act like this.
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PETE left people guessing though. There were rumors he was going to play Indian Wells 2003. He didn't confirm until a year after the win and by then the moment had passed
 
Baseline_Bungle said:
Man... this guy has done more pulling out in one year than Rocco Siffredi in the entire 1990s decade.
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Sampras in 2003 pulled out of lots of tennis events, and didn't play any event that year.

weakera said:
Nadal - “Right now I'm not in a position to win anything. I said that I would play until the Paris 2024 Olympic Games and then we would see, and I am in that time of rest.

Mentally, I am well. Zero problems physically too. I'm at home enjoying other things and training what I can daily.
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Zero problems physically? What? :oops:

How could Rafa be "not in a position to win anything" and also have "zero problems physically"?
 
There was no way Nadal was gonna play Laver Cup and call it quits like Federer. No shot. He wants one more crack at the clay.

RG 2025 will be his final tournament and he’ll skip out as much as he needs to in order to be ready for that last chance.
 
ruripi said:
Even if the record was stopped at 13, Sampras's choice of retirement was GOAT move of professional tennis player I think.
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Sampras didn't announce his retirement until August 2003. He pulled out of lots of tennis events in 2003, including Wimbledon. When he decided not to defend his US Open title, he announced his retirement.

Despite this, there's a myth that Sampras won the 2002 US Open title and then retired immediately. It didn't happen like that. Sampras fully intended to be back for the 2003 year. In November 2002, a 31-year-old Sampras became a father and spent months away from the court. It can be hard to get fully back into playing professional tennis after that.
 
Fabresque said:
There was no way Nadal was gonna play Laver Cup and call it quits like Federer. No shot. He wants one more crack at the clay.

RG 2025 will be his final tournament and he’ll skip out as much as he needs to in order to be ready for that last chance.
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Even if it's a first round blowout, like Kuerten in 2008 against Mathieu (Mathieu won 6-3, 6-4, 6-2), Nadal should stick to it if that's his planned way of going out.
 
jm1980 said:
If you are a Rafa fan, this is an excellent sign

His priorities should be to get healthy and have another go on clay next year. Not waste time and energy, and risk injury playing Fed's exho
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I heard it was a silent ban for using an illegally placed dampener.
 
Rosstour said:
PETE left people guessing though. There were rumors he was going to play Indian Wells 2003. He didn't confirm until a year after the win and by then the moment had passed
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Sampras also trained for 2003 Wimbledon with Paul Annacone for over a week, and then stopped when he realized that he wasn't feeling it.

It's interesting how Sampras didn't feel compelled to play 2003 Wimbledon to make up for the George Bastl disaster at 2002 Wimbledon. Sampras' last Wimbledon match was therefore the biggest journeyman win over a big champion in tennis history.
 
Fabresque said:
There was no way Nadal was gonna play Laver Cup and call it quits like Federer. No shot. He wants one more crack at the clay.

RG 2025 will be his final tournament and he’ll skip out as much as he needs to in order to be ready for that last chance.
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For what

It's done
 
nolefam_2024 said:
For what

It's done
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Nadal should be thinking about how he wants to go out, and also realize that most careers (including those of all-time greats) tend to end on whimpers rather than bangs. If the 2025 French Open is where he wants to go out (20th anniversary of his first French Open participation and title), then fair enough. Go out that way. The whole Olympics thing got in the way in 2024 in a sense, as a distraction. Nadal is 38 now, he turns 39 on 3 June 2025, and will keep getting older.
 
Mustard said:
Nadal should be thinking about how he wants to go out, and also realize that most careers (including those of all-time greats) tend to end on whimpers rather than bangs. If the 2025 French Open is where he wants to go out (20th anniversary of his first French Open participation and title), then fair enough. Go out that way. The whole Olympics thing got in the way in 2024 in a sense, as a distraction. Nadal is 38 now, he turns 39 on 3 June 2025, and will keep getting older.
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Yes the previous member said last chance.

I have no hopes from Rafa to win another slam. It's bo5 7 matches.
 
Look at the bright side, no more octo.

Mustard said:
Nadal should be thinking about how he wants to go out, and also realize that most careers (including those of all-time greats) tend to end on whimpers rather than bangs. If the 2025 French Open is where he wants to go out (20th anniversary of his first French Open participation and title), then fair enough. Go out that way. The whole Olympics thing got in the way in 2024 in a sense, as a distraction. Nadal is 38 now, he turns 39 on 3 June 2025, and will keep getting older.
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nolefam_2024 said:
Yes the previous member said last chance.

I have no hopes from Rafa to win another slam. It's bo5 7 matches.
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Nadal is 38 so there would be a struggle for consistency from match to match. You also need more rest than practice at that age even if fully fit. And also, without actual matches that are top level competitive, you get rusty. How to square the circle?
 
This is just getting tedious and boring. He should just retire to stop disappointing his fans and people who buy tickets.
 
Jokes aside, pulling out while having "zero problems physically" is some weak sauce... He's basically admitting he was only in it to sell some tickets. This also tells us that we'll probably have to endure (at least) one more year of this ridiculous "farewell tour"

(quotes required because, well... in most cases people aren't actually getting to say farewell)
 
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