Rafael Nadal on his return, Federer, and Davis Cup

OroDeSantoro said:
Anyone who watched the match knows that Soderling was on fire... he looked completely unbeatable that day. It reminded me of watching Tsonga at australia in 2008
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You are absolutely right, and the fire kept on burning vs Davydenko in the QF, vs Gonzalez he didnt plays as good as vs Nadal and Davy but still managed to win, and in the final ill give the *********s this one, he did not play very good but as he said himself Federer is the only one he hates playing against cuz he makes his rhytm go away totally.
 
yung goon said:
because your answers are stupid. you cant get anything through your head. you just come back with the same things or nonsense
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Because my answers are stupid??? Well buu-huu then , thats to bad. A moment ago you said i WASNTanswering, make up ur mind kid!
 
TheMagicianOfPrecision said:
You are right, thanx to Soderling, he was blown away. Thats why he "was not all there"
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i thought id have to rephrase that since you wouldnt understand. not 100% duck. he got 1 game in 2 sets vs nadal the previous time they met. do you think his gameplan couldve changed and worked that well? you could prob beat nadal on one leg..
 
yung goon said:
i thought id have to rephrase that since you wouldnt understand. not 100% duck. he got 1 game in 2 sets vs nadal the previous time they met. do you think his gameplan couldve changed and worked that well? you could prob beat nadal on one leg..
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Yes he did, and in 10/13 games it was deuce, and Magnus Norman (soderlings coach) is a brilliant tactician and they structured up the tactics VERY differently in FO compared to Rom since it obviously didnt work there.
 
yung goon said:
haha wow duck. if his strategizing is so good what happened in the fed match
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It didnt work at all since Fed gives Soderling no rhytm whatsoever, against Nadal its a lot easier getting into rhytm since he is not even near Fed when it comes to mixing his game up. Something else u wanna know?
 
jamesblakefan#1 said:
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... yung goon's new avatar :mrgreen:
 
just like nadal gives fed no rhythm at all. and seeing as how soderling and fed are alot alike, nadal wouldve crushed soderling at the french, just like he did at rome if he was healthy.
 
jamesblakefan#1 said:
Do you WATCH tennis? How are they alike? Federer does things in his game that Soderling could never dream of doing. Fed has 15 slams, Sod has zero.
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they both hit hard and flat. hard flat serves. soderlings a bit harder. fed has more variety but there are similarities.
 
yung goon said:
they both hit hard and flat. hard flat serves. soderlings a bit harder. fed has more variety but there are similarities.
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...Soderling hits flat, and Fed can hit it flat, put crazy spin, put a little spin. Very few pro's hit flat serves...almost all of their first serves have a little spin on them (aside from Karlovic and some other big guys).

Fed has more variety in his forehand than Soderling has in his entire game.

I guess you don't watch tennis.
 
yung goon said:
just like nadal gives fed no rhythm at all. and seeing as how soderling and fed are alot alike, nadal wouldve crushed soderling at the french, just like he did at rome if he was healthy.
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Listen you can never compare different styles of play like that, its a matter of who suits you well and who doesnt, Nadal obviously does not suit Federer at all, Blake obviously does not suit Nadal at all.
 
asafi2 said:
...Soderling hits flat, and Fed can hit it flat, put crazy spin, put a little spin. Very few pro's hit flat serves...almost all of their first serves have a little spin on them (aside from Karlovic and some other big guys).

Fed has more variety in his forehand than Soderling has in his entire game.

I guess you don't watch tennis.
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apparently not. i mean i thought i followed it pretty well but you fellas say i dont which obviously means i dont.
 
yung goon said:
says the guy who thinks nadal is taking steroids
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First of all, why are u running away from current topic? Because you cant come up with anything to say. No, i dont think he is doing roids (sure as hell hope not) but another poster wrote an article that to me felt very suspicious...rumors of course but still. Strange circumstances. And 1st Wimbledon champion ever not even playing the next year
 
TheMagicianOfPrecision said:
First of all, why are u running away from current topic? Because you cant come up with anything to say. No, i dont think he is doing roids (sure as hell hope not) but another poster wrote an article that to me felt very suspicious...rumors of course but still. Strange circumstances. And 1st Wimbledon champion ever not even playing the next year
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ive already made my point on the topic. you dont wanna hear it so you go back to your points that nadal isnt injured soderling just whooped his ass which isnt the case
 
yung goon said:
what are fed and soders styles then?
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Soderling bombs away,guns blazing or playing like a 15 year old junior, hits very flat, huge serve huge forehand, doesnt feel comfortable slicing the ball, and hates when he has to run forward (on dropshots short angles)
Federer, great serve,varies it a lot, can do pretty much what he wants with it, huge forehand, fairly good volleys, decent backhand that he uses to set up his forehand with,AND, one of the greatest player ever to make your rhytm go away totally! He will hit flat, with spin,slice,hit a dropshot,an angle shot, Soderling feels totally lost against such a player. And Nadal is good at much,but sure as hell not at doing what i just mentioned. He IS fairly one-dimensional.
 
TheMagicianOfPrecision said:
Soderling bombs away,guns blazing or playing like a 15 year old junior, hits very flat, huge serve huge forehand, doesnt feel comfortable slicing the ball, and hates when he has to run forward (on dropshots short angles)
Federer, great serve,varies it a lot, can do pretty much what he wants with it, huge forehand, fairly good volleys, decent backhand that he uses to set up his forehand with,AND, one of the greatest player ever to make your rhytm go away totally! He will hit flat, with spin,slice,hit a dropshot,an angle shot, Soderling feels totally lost against such a player. And Nadal is good at much,but sure as hell not at doing what i just mentioned. He IS fairly one-dimensional.
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spoken like someone who truly understands and plays the game. Soderling himself said that Federer's game makes you play "bad and uncomfortable"
 
Federer is a better mover, has a more varied FH, BH, and more variety than Soderling. Soderling's success relies purely on his power and power alone, while Fed can beat you w/ his variety of shots, spins, slice BH, chips that force you into the net.

Saying Fed and Sod are alike is like saying Fed and Blake are alike. Fed has more variety in his game, more options than most could ever dream of. If they're so similar, how is Fed 12-0 vs him?
 
jamesblakefan#1 said:
Federer is a better mover, has a more varied FH, BH, and more variety than Soderling. Soderling's success relies purely on his power and power alone, while Fed can beat you w/ his variety of shots, spins, slice BH, chips that force you into the net.

Saying Fed and Sod are alike is like saying Fed and Blake are alike. Fed has more variety in his game, more options than most could ever dream of. If they're so similar, how is Fed 12-0 vs him?
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soderling and fed both play with power. fed more variety(as i posted) soderling more power. hes more wild than federer. but they both hit with good pace and hit lines. soderling played amazing vs nadal at rg and kudos to him. but nadal wasnt playing at his capacity and you guys know that.
 
yung goon said:
soderling and fed both play with power. fed more variety(as i posted) soderling more power. hes more wild than federer. but they both hit with good pace and hit lines. soderling played amazing vs nadal at rg and kudos to him. but nadal wasnt playing at his capacity and you guys know that.
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It still doesn't take from Sod's victory. And doesn't mean you have to make up quotes like "I can't the pain is unbearable" which no media source quotes Nadal as saying. Not one. If mics could pick up on Safina saying "I choke like a chicken" during the women's final, why wouldn't they pick up on Nadal saying "I can't the pain is unbearable" or something to that effect, even if it was in Spanish, people have translators, you know?
 
TheMagicianOfPrecision said:
It is, but NOT for Nadal, that you really should know!! He practices like it was his last practice ever or as if it was a Slam-final. Ive even seen him practice 2 times.
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And how do you know that? Have you trained with him. You may have seen it once on tv so you know conclusively. Its all just desperate.
 
jamesblakefan#1 said:
It still doesn't take from Sod's victory. And doesn't mean you have to make up quotes like "I can't the pain is unbearable" which no media source quotes Nadal as saying. Not one. If mics could pick up on Safina saying "I choke like a chicken" during the women's final, why wouldn't they pick up on Nadal saying "I can't the pain is unbearable" or something to that effect, even if it was in Spanish, people have translators, you know?
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Did Safina say that?? Lol:)
 
~ZoSo~ said:
And how do you know that? Have you trained with him. You may have seen it once on tv so you know conclusively. Its all just desperate.
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...and here comes the next one...Noo, but i saw him practice in London and in New York in 2008, and he practiced like there was no tomorrow.
 
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