Rafael Nadal win-loss in 2019 by surface

[Druss]

Indoor HC: 11-1 (91.6%)?

That's phenomenal! How many indoor titles has he won?

 

[tennis_pro]

Stick to Berretini my son.

Woah somebody's hurting : (

 

[zep]

Grass: 5-1 (83.3%)
Clay: 21-3 (87.5%)
Outdoor HC: 22-2 (91.6%)
Indoor HC: 11-1 (91.6%)

Just a tiny correction. He is 10-1 on indoor hard as I don't count Laver Cup wins as an official stat, no one should. It's a glorified exho with absolutely zero meaning in the overall scheme of things.

 

[DSH]

It's misleading. His level tanked at the end of AO and about halfway through the clay season. But at the end he was his usual dominant self. If he maintains this level through the AO and does not get injured, he could be back to peak level on clay too.

But, can he win the AO?

 

[octobrina10]

a) This thread is about Nadal
b) Not entering a tournament is different to entering, seeing the draw, showing up to collect your appearance cheque, then withdrawing
c) This thread is about Nadal, but feel free to compile of list of how many times Federer collected appearance money and then withdrew without play a match
d) Have I made any errors in the above list, or do simple facts upset you that much?

Hmm. Weird made-up stories about Rafa keep coming from Fed devotees' anti-Rafa propaganda rulebook.

 

[tonylg]

Hmm. Weird made-up stories about Rafa keep coming from Fed devotees' anti-Rafa propaganda rulebook.

One of us is delusional.

2018
Brisbane - withdraw
AO - retired
Mexico - withdraw
IW - withdraw
Miami - withdraw
Canada - won (Paire, Wawrinka, Cilic, Kachenov, Tsitsipas)
Cincinnati - withdraw
USO - retired
Beijing - withdraw
Shanghai - withdraw
Paris - withdraw
London - withdraw
Abu Dhabi - withdraw

2019
Brisbane - withdraw
AO - beaten by Djokovic
Mexico - beaten by Kyrgios
IW - withdraw
Miami - withdraw
Canada - won (Evans, Pella, Dognini, walkover, Medvedev)
Cincinnati - withdraw
USO - won (Millman, walkover, Hyeon, Cilic, Schwatzman, Berrettini, Medvedev)
Beijing - withdraw
Shanghai - withdraw
Paris - withdraw
London - beaten by Zverev

Nothing made up there. I even invited people to correct it if I'd made any mistakes.

So, are there mistake there, or are you the delusional one?

 

[TearTheRoofOff]

All surfaces: Too many-Not enough (Too high%)

 

[weakera]

Post Roger Federer's surface W-L in 2006.

I dare you.

Because that season is a trillion times superior to anything anyone has achieved in 2019. BTW-- also post Fed's season W-L for 2004 and 2007 which again obliterates anything any tennis player did in 2019.

LOL, confirmed shook.

 

[octobrina10]

One of us is delusional.

2018
Brisbane - withdraw
AO - retired
Mexico - withdraw
IW - withdraw
Miami - withdraw
Canada - won (Paire, Wawrinka, Cilic, Kachenov, Tsitsipas)
Cincinnati - withdraw
USO - retired
Beijing - withdraw
Shanghai - withdraw
Paris - withdraw
London - withdraw
Abu Dhabi - withdraw

2019
Brisbane - withdraw
AO - beaten by Djokovic
Mexico - beaten by Kyrgios
IW - withdraw
Miami - withdraw
Canada - won (Evans, Pella, Dognini, walkover, Medvedev)
Cincinnati - withdraw
USO - won (Millman, walkover, Hyeon, Cilic, Schwatzman, Berrettini, Medvedev)
Beijing - withdraw
Shanghai - withdraw
Paris - withdraw
London - beaten by Zverev

Nothing made up there. I even invited people to correct it if I'd made any mistakes.

So, are there mistake there, or are you the delusional one?

You are posting made-up stories about the reasons for Rafa's withdrawals.

 

[tonylg]

You are posting made-up stories about the reasons for Rafa's withdrawals.

Where?

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[octobrina10]

Where?

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Everywhere.

 

[tonylg]

Everywhere.

Right. Nice talking to you. Another one to the ignore list.

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[ForumMember]

Post Roger Federer's surface W-L in 2006.

I dare you.

Because that season is a trillion times superior to anything anyone has achieved in 2019. BTW-- also post Fed's season W-L for 2004 and 2007 which again obliterates anything any tennis player did in 2019.

I dare you to post Federer H2H against big4 from year 2006 and compare Nadal's H2H against big 4 from 2019.

 

[ForumMember]

I've done my best to compile Nadal's hard court record over the past 2 years. Please feel free to correct any errors.

He's been incredibly consistent.

2018
Brisbane - withdraw
AO - retired
Mexico - withdraw
IW - withdraw
Miami - withdraw
Canada - won (Paire, Wawrinka, Cilic, Kachenov, Tsitsipas)
Cincinnati - withdraw
USO - retired
Beijing - withdraw
Shanghai - withdraw
Paris - withdraw
London - withdraw
Abu Dhabi - withdraw

2019
Brisbane - withdraw
AO - beaten by Djokovic
Mexico - beaten by Kyrgios
IW - withdraw
Miami - withdraw
Canada - won (Evans, Pella, Dognini, walkover, Medvedev)
Cincinnati - withdraw
USO - won (Millman, walkover, Hyeon, Cilic, Schwatzman, Berrettini, Medvedev)
Beijing - withdraw
Shanghai - withdraw
Paris - withdraw
London - beaten by Zverev

I can put Federer's clay record for year 2016 to 2018 in one-hundredth of the time you took to do this.

 

[RaulRamirez]

Why are the anti-Rafa "fans" so upset/triggered/butt-hurt by this thread?

 

[KINGROGER]

I dare you to post Federer H2H against big4 from year 2006 and compare Nadal's H2H against big 4 from 2019.

2006: 8-4 to Fed
2019: Nadal 3-3?

 

[TheFifthSet]

Too many withdrawals to really take the %’s at face value...not to say Nadal hasn’t been terrific on non-clay though but it is what it is. Against the best competition he’s by far the best on clay. On non-clay he’s a very distant third to Djokovic and Federer.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Too many withdrawals to really take the %’s at face value...not to say Nadal hasn’t been terrific on non-clay though but it is what it is. Against the best competition he’s by far the best on clay. On non-clay he’s a very distant third to Djokovic and Federer.

I really, truly hope Nadal haters find a way to be less salty.

 

[TheFifthSet]

I really, truly hope Nadal haters find a way to be less salty.

Lol you really gonna be an a$$hole over this? We’ve had more than enough back-and-forths over the years for you to mischaracterize me as a hater for stating something that’s legitimately true. Nadal is a distant third to both on non-clay. How is that hating? He’s the best player on tour, the indisputable GOAT on clay and one of the overall GOATs with an argument for being the best ever (not one that jives with me, but it’s there to be made.) Even said he was terrific on non-clay. Should I say he’s the best everywhere for it to not be taken as a slight? I was merely pushing back against the idea that his W-L records this year are somehow extremely revelatory...100% relevant to the thread and I was genuinely attempting to add to the convo, not ‘hating’. Never called you a Djokovic hater despite a calendar years worth of posts of you bellyaching over how boring he is.

 

[ForumMember]

2006: 8-4 to Fed
2019: Nadal 3-3?

what..??
In 2006 Fed played 5 matches with rafa lost 4, 2 matches against Djokovic and won 2, 1 match against Murray and lost that.

for year H2H against big 4 was 3-5 only. Even in his best year he had a losing H2H against players of real worth..

and in 2019.. Nadal is at 2-2, not 3-3..

 

[KINGROGER]

what..??
In 2006 Fed played 5 matches with rafa lost 4, 2 matches against Djokovic and won 2, 1 match against Murray and lost that.

for year H2H against big 4 was 3-5 only. Even in his best year he had a losing H2H against players of real worth..

and in 2019.. Nadal is at 2-2, not 3-3..

I was talking about his H2H vs 2006 top 4.

No idea what relevance h2h vs Murray/Djokovic have in 2006, or Murray in 2019. Bit of a non point really, big 3 didn’t become a thing until 2007, big 4 in 2008.

 

[ForumMember]

I was talking about his H2H vs 2006 top 4.

No idea what relevance h2h vs Murray/Djokovic have in 2006, or Murray in 2019. Bit of a non point really, big 3 didn’t become a thing until 2007, big 4 in 2008.

so basically you are not accepting dare.. fair enough..

 

[Spencer Gore]

Post Roger Federer's surface W-L in 2006.

I dare you.

Because that season is a trillion times superior to anything anyone has achieved in 2019. BTW-- also post Fed's season W-L for 2004 and 2007 which again obliterates anything any tennis player did in 2019.

I assume Federer's figures must be close to 100% in 2006 given that all the quality experienced players had retired or were injured and the great players to come were teenagers.

 

[kevaninho]

We need to get Fed and Djokers stats on all surfaces this year....Just for fun.

 

[kevaninho]

Post Roger Federer's surface W-L in 2006.

I dare you.

Because that season is a trillion times superior to anything anyone has achieved in 2019. BTW-- also post Fed's season W-L for 2004 and 2007 which again obliterates anything any tennis player did in 2019.

You mean that year where he had zero competition apart from on clay ?

 

[kevaninho]

Rafa has got much better on other surfaces. That being said, the level of tour has dropped.

But there is no denying Rafa is the best tennis player in the world going into 2020. He should win 2-3 slams unless Djoker has another level or these kids figure it out at the slams.

Fed will give it one last go, Djoker will need to raise his level. If Rafa keeps this level, I honestly don't see how he loses.

Wrong. Even as a Rafa fan, he isn't beating a decent level Djokovic at AO ( if they meet ). He isn't winning Wimbledon, and his USO defence is a long way away.
Talking about 2-3 slams is just stupid. Most of his fans will take 1 slam next year, with 2 being great.

 

[KINGROGER]

You mean that year where he had zero competition apart from on clay ?

Better than having 0 competition on any surface like Djokovic in 15-16.

 

[KINGROGER]

so basically you are not accepting dare.. fair enough..

There was no big 4 in 2006 or 2019 so you didn’t ask anything.

 

[KINGROGER]

I assume Federer's figures must be close to 100% in 2006 given that all the quality experienced players had retired or were injured and the great players to come were teenagers.

Sounds like you’re describing 2015 - present, minus the upcoming greats.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Lol you really gonna be an a$$hole over this? We’ve had more than enough back-and-forths over the years for you to mischaracterize me as a hater for stating something that’s legitimately true. Nadal is a distant third to both on non-clay. How is that hating? He’s the best player on tour, the indisputable GOAT on clay and one of the overall GOATs with an argument for being the best ever (not one that jives with me, but it’s there to be made.) Even said he was terrific on non-clay. Should I say he’s the best everywhere for it to not be taken as a slight? I was merely pushing back against the idea that his W-L records this year are somehow extremely revelatory...100% relevant to the thread and I was genuinely attempting to add to the convo, not ‘hating’. Never called you a Djokovic hater despite a calendar years worth of posts of you bellyaching over how boring he is.

Lol you sound so in your feelings

 

[Lew II]

Nadal has never held a AO/WI/UO title without holding RG title too.

Maybe with this evolution we'll see him become a hard/grass specialist, never say never.

 

[TheFifthSet]

Lol you sound so in your feelings

OoOoOoO so savage.

Sure I am, we’ve gotten on pretty well in the past yet you chose to be insulting and then hid behind humour when your post had none and was just a hacky putdown. So yes, it did annoy me. Cuz I’m a real person and all, not some online persona with low-tier clap-backs trying to sound younger than he is.

 

[MichaelNadal]

OoOoOoO so savage.

Sure I am, we’ve gotten on pretty well in the past yet you chose to be insulting and then hid behind humour when your post had none and was just a hacky putdown. So yes, it did annoy me. Cuz I’m a real person and all, not some online persona with low-tier clap-backs trying to sound younger than he is.

Lol one of us is mad today I forgive you, Nadal is slaying, why should I care what you post? Still love you regardless of your mood

 

[TheFifthSet]

Lol one of us is mad today I forgive you, Nadal is slaying, why should I care what you post? Still love you regardless of your mood

Bruh you treat people you love like hot trash then

 

[MichaelNadal]

Bruh you treat people you love like hot trash then

Ok, well Nadal is a distant 3rd to Novak and Roger yet had the best year by far, (which didn't have much to do with clay) let's face it, Nadal haters don't have many stones left to throw, it's not my fault even I didn't see all this epicness coming, he carried the tour this year

 

[TheFifthSet]

Ok, well Nadal is a distant 3rd to Novak and Roger yet had the best year by far, (which didn't have much to do with clay) let's face it, Nadal haters don't have many stones left to throw, it's not my fault even I didn't see all this epicness coming, he carried the tour this year

I am also good at non sequiturs Epstein didn’t kill himself.

 

[MichaelNadal]

I am also good at non sequiturs Epstein didn’t kill himself.

Id eat wings with you, it's all good

 

[Spencer Gore]

Sounds like you’re describing 2015 - present, minus the upcoming greats.

All of the quality experienced players have retired since 2015?

Do you even watch tennis?

 

[Crisstti]

Nadal has never held a AO/WI/UO title without holding RG title too.

Maybe with this evolution we'll see him become a hard/grass specialist, never say never.

Didn't he in 2009?

 

[youngpolyhater]

Didn't he in 2009?

Reigning 2008 RG champion

 

[KINGROGER]

All of the quality experienced players have retired since 2015?

Do you even watch tennis?

I don’t think you do, judging by the amount of utter **** you post.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Reigning 2008 RG champion