Rafael Rafa Nadal tops yet another list!

That's because he is targeted, not because he does it more than other guys. This has been discussed ad nauseum.
 
GOAT (Greatest Offender of all Time).

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"Punctual Swiss Roger Federer and Stanislas Wawrinka are the only players from the Top 10 never to have been warned in 2013."

IMO, it's a cultural thing:

The Swiss know all about time. That is why they have been producing all those clocks and watches down through the centuries. And don't forget, Einstein discovered that time was relative while he was living in Switzerland!

Spaniards, on the other hand, don't take time so seriously. They are a manana-loving people who invented the siesta. Nadal especially likes to take one in between serves and points. He can't understand what all the fuss is about which is why he just shrugs his shoulders whenever he gets another time warning!

;)
 
Here's what I got.



Total matches played in 2013

Nadal: 82
Isner: 73
Del Potro: 67
Fognini:69
Nole:83
Berdych:79
Bulbis:55
Gasquet:73
Anderson:60
Lopez:49
Murray:51
 
FreeBird said:
Yes. But Peak Nadal hater > Peak Federer Hater > Peak Novak hater > Peak Murray hater.

Clarky is flourishing in weak Novak hater era. :)
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Possibly. Vive usually doubles up for Murray too. He (with the occasional exception of F1Bob) is the only Murray-hater on here who actually makes me laugh! :)
 
TMF said:
Here's what I got.



Total matches played in 2013

Nadal: 82
Isner: 73
Del Potro: 67
Fognini:69
Nole:83
Berdych:79
Bulbis:55
Gasquet:73
Anderson:60
Lopez:49
Murray:51
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Nole played more matches than Rafa and drew 3 times less warnings :shock:
That's a goat improvement right there
 
vladap said:
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Time warning offenders for 2013. Rafael Nadal, 30; John Isner, 14; Juan Del Potro-Fabio Fognini, 11; Novak Djokovic, 10; Tomas Berdych-Ernests Gulbis, 9; Richard Gasquet, 8; Kevin Anderson-Feliciano Lopez-Andy Murray, 6.
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They started to follow the timing rule after British TV commentators were whining about Rafa, but it appeared that Andy was punished also. It's Karma! :D
 
TennisandMusic said:
That's because he is targeted, not because he does it more than other guys. This has been discussed ad nauseum.
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Dude stop playing the victim. The ATP has already given Nadal everything he could've asked for in terms of playing style preference. Gotta compensate somewhere, no?
 
These numbers doesn't make any difference or effect the outcome of the match unless we start seeing players getting penalize(losing a point). A warning alone doesn't do any good.
 
TMF said:
These numbers doesn't make any difference or effect the outcome of the match unless we start seeing players getting penalize(losing a point). A warning alone doesn't do any good.
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I agree. There shouldn't be warnings, it should just be a 1-point penalty.
 
Mainad said:
"Punctual Swiss Roger Federer and Stanislas Wawrinka are the only players from the Top 10 never to have been warned in 2013."

IMO, it's a cultural thing:

The Swiss know all about time. That is why they have been producing all those clocks and watches down through the centuries. And don't forget, Einstein discovered that time was relative while he was living in Switzerland!

Spaniards, on the other hand, don't take time so seriously. They are a manana-loving people who invented the siesta. Nadal especially likes to take one in between serves and points. He can't understand what all the fuss is about which is why he just shrugs his shoulders whenever he gets another time warning!

;)
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Insightful observation, well done Sir!
 
TennisandMusic said:
That's because he is targeted, not because he does it more than other guys. This has been discussed ad nauseum.
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Ain't that the truth.

You notice how now that he's back they've forgotten (pretty much) that they should be targeting him.

While he was gone, I don't think I saw even one time violation. What are the odds of that happening?

Such a joke!
 
Tio must be a proud coach about Ralph receiving this award. :lol:
 
TennisandMusic said:
That's because he is targeted, not because he does it more than other guys. This has been discussed ad nauseum.
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Wow! Some people never take off their rose tinted glasses! I guess he is targeted for illegal coaching too???

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"It was in the last game, when I was serving for the match. ... I didn't know where to serve. Down the center, to the middle or to try the classic play of the wide serve and then try to hit the forehand. They told me to serve wide and that's where I served."

http://www.aolnews.com/2010/09/30/its-time-to-stop-rafael-nadals-cheating/

Don't believe him...Here's another one from your hero's coach,

Homeboy Hotel said:
Toni Nadal....

"Hablo con Rafa durante los partidos.Ya sé q no está muy permitido pero considero mi edad,tampoco ***** que esconderme""

=

"I talk to Rafa during matches. I know that its not allowed but I think that at my age I have nothing to hide'
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Homeboy Hotel said:
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Oh wait! :oops:

He played half the season and accumulated more time violations and not to mention he wastes time on important points to disrupt the momentum of the match. Don't give me that cr@p about him having ocd...He doesn't waste time when he is 40-0 up in the game for example. His time wasting is very opportunistic and timed specifically to gain a mental edge and/or disrupt the opponents rhythm.
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Rafa topping another list just shows his versatility, no one can now say that all the lists he tops are related solely to clay. This proves he's not a one trick pony like the haters always said. Rafa proves them wrong again!

;)
 
Lol at the haters :)

You people really thought after the layoff and the friggin time rule he was done, no?.

Tough luck for you :)
 
Nadal may have the most warnings, but which players have received the most time violation penalties? Some low ranked players??
 
These Rafa fanatics are ignoring the fact that he does do this all the time. "lol at the haters" "rafa is targeted" "i didn't see one time violation while he was gone"

OPEN YOUR EYES, you can't honestly be that dense.
 
Crisstti said:
Lol at the haters :)

You people really thought after the layoff and the friggin time rule he was done, no?.

Tough luck for you :)
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Good counter argument. :roll:

Cup8489 said:
These Rafa fanatics are ignoring the fact that he does do this all the time. "lol at the haters" "rafa is targeted" "i didn't see one time violation while he was gone"

OPEN YOUR EYES, you can't honestly be that dense.
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+1
 
pound cat said:
Nadal may have the most warnings, but which players have received the most time violation penalties? Some low ranked players??
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I don't think there's been any penalties at all with the new system. I can only think of the RG semi, against Rafa of course, but it was with the ITF rule (loss of a point).

It's Berlocq the player who goes most over the time btw.

Cup8489 said:
These Rafa fanatics are ignoring the fact that he does do this all the time. "lol at the haters" "rafa is targeted" "i didn't see one time violation while he was gone"

OPEN YOUR EYES, you can't honestly be that dense.
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Nope, no one is ignoring the fact that he does it all the time. But he is targeted, remember the Montreal final where he was given a warning and Raonic was not, despite Raonic taking more time than Rafa?.

Oh, and yeah, lol at the haters :)
 
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As has already been said, it's fine that they have been more strict on the time violation this year than in the past few, but as long as there is hardly ever a second warning (and theyreby a point penalty) issued, it doesn't make a difference at all.
The time violaters can just scrugg their shoulders as they can be 99,5 % sure that they won't be given a point penalty. And that's exactly what's happening.
And yes, it does matter. Why else would the time violaters take more time before facing a BP and so on and so forth.
 
Chanwan said:
As has already been said, it's fine that they have been more strict on the time violation this year than in the past few, but as long as there is hardly ever a second warning (and theyreby a point penalty) issued, it doesn't make a difference at all.
The time violaters can just scrugg their shoulders as they can be 99,5 % sure that they won't be given a point penalty. And that's exactly what's happening.
And yes, it does matter. Why else would the time violaters take more time before facing a BP and so on and so forth.
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It's fine, everyone can do it if they wish.

Btw, basically everyone takes more time when facing a bp, whether they're over the time limit or not.
 
Crisstti said:
It's fine, everyone can do it if they wish.

Btw, basically everyone takes more time when facing a bp, whether they're over the time limit or not.
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That's exactly the problem. The rules are there for a reason - and not for everyone to break them as they please.
I can't find it, but there's a youtube video, where Federer completes a whole service game in less time than it takes Nadal to serve after finishing a point.
That, imo, is a problem for the average viewer as they (nor I for that matter) haven't got that kind of patience.

This article gives a good overview of the advantages and disadvantages of enforcing the rules: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...d-andy-murray-is-time-violations-here-to-stay
 
Chanwan said:
That's exactly the problem. The rules are there for a reason - and not for everyone to break them as they please.
I can't find it, but there's a youtube video, where Federer completes a whole service game in less time than it takes Nadal to serve after finishing a point.
That, imo, is a problem for the average viewer as they (nor I for that matter) haven't got that kind of patience.

This article gives a good overview of the advantages and disadvantages of enforcing the rules: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...d-andy-murray-is-time-violations-here-to-stay
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No, that is what it makes it not being a problem, or a minor one at most. The important thing is that since everyone can do it (it's basically implicitly allowed) then no one gets an unfair advantage.

Whether some fans get a little annoyed is really not important...
 
Crisstti said:
No, that is what it makes it not being a problem, or a minor one at most. The important thing is that since everyone can do it (it's basically implicitly allowed) then no one gets an unfair advantage.

Whether some fans get a little annoyed is really not important...
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They do get an unfair advantage, because it encourages a certain style of play - or facilitates it if you will. If you know, you have to be ready within 25 seconds, you will tend to force the issue more rather than hit the ball until your opponent misses. So defenders/grinders/people who play long rallies are benefitted. And tend, overall, to take longer time.

"Whether some fans get a little annoyed is really not important."
I disagree. On this forum, we watch tennis more or less no matter what. Not so for the general public. If tennis is suddenly viewed as a) boring or b) something you don't have time for because the matches take 3-4 hours for three sets rather than 1,5-2 hours, then that impacts the entire sport big time.
 
Crisstti said:
It's fine, everyone can do it if they wish.

Btw, basically everyone takes more time when facing a bp, whether they're over the time limit or not.
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No they don't...Federer, Ferrer, Gasquet, Murray, Berdych, Tsonga for example...These are just players in the top 10.

Crisstti said:
No, that is what it makes it not being a problem, or a minor one at most. The important thing is that since everyone can do it (it's basically implicitly allowed) then no one gets an unfair advantage.

Whether some fans get a little annoyed is really not important...
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No it's not...which is why Nadal has so many time violation warnings...and someone like Ferrer has none.
 
dh003i said:
I agree. There shouldn't be warnings, it should just be a 1-point penalty.
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It would greatly reduce the time violations. Players effected by losing points and possibly losing the match will enforce them to obey the rule. Right now, Nadal disregard the rule because he knows he's not going to lose any point.
 
Baloney trumped up charges that never mattered on the ATP tour.

Good luck getting people to think that a few seconds is a crime.
 
Those kind of little things made it tough to be his fan sometimes.

Too bad, because I rally love his game and how he is off court.
 
jg153040 said:
Those kind of little things made it tough to be his fan sometimes.

Too bad, because I rally love his game and how he is off court.
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I would just switch to another player. That would make it easier. Then you won't have to vacillate back and forth. Kick him to the curb and be done with it.
 
vladap said:
http://www.10sballs.com/2013/11/23/rafael-rafa-nadal-is-on-the-top-of-the-slow-list/

Time warning offenders for 2013. Rafael Nadal, 30; John Isner, 14; Juan Del Potro-Fabio Fognini, 11; Novak Djokovic, 10; Tomas Berdych-Ernests Gulbis, 9; Richard Gasquet, 8; Kevin Anderson-Feliciano Lopez-Andy Murray, 6.
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At least we now know he's not the only one. :)

That was Fed's last card to hamper Nadal's progress in GOATness and it has failed spectacularly because Nadal still beats him and still ended the year as #1 winning 10 titles after coming back from injury. The directive was slipped in whilst he was away. If anything it has made Nadal a better player.
 
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TMF said:
Here's what I got.



Total matches played in 2013

Nadal: 82
Isner: 73
Del Potro: 67
Fognini:69
Nole:83
Berdych:79
Bulbis:55
Gasquet:73
Anderson:60
Lopez:49
Murray:51
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So Nadal played more matches and got more warning for time violation.....seems logical to me.
 
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