Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by daoiie, Oct 19, 2010.
Is he using the previous model (Babolat Aeropro Drive Cortex) paintjob as the new GT model?
He is using the original aero pro drive. He has some lead at 12 under the bumper and some in the handle. High SW but not the heaviest static weight. Uses grip size 2. No cortex or gt in the frame. A lot of info on this if you search dude, will save you an ear bashing from some of the harsh people on here
Yeh usually if you write this sought of thing you will get smart ass people saying "the search engine is your friend"
DW baseline_monster is nice!
I would agree to a certain extent on the search engine. I have been on other forums that use the same forum software as here, but have intregrated a google search feature as well and I find that more versatile.
Here are pics from Fabfed's thread...as you can see, Rafa's "Cortex" is clearly painted on:
Original link to Fabfed's thead:
More pics from Fabfed...I like it how it says "Rafa" in chrome lettering:
haha hey just curious tho is nadal still using the woofer system which are the grommets? did the original APD have the woofer?
yes mate. think the aero pro came out in 2004/5 and had it. had 4 of them, miss them!!!
Yeah, the original APD is a great stick. I have one myself and like it very much. I find it funny with Nadal that even his strings are paintjobbed...you can see in one of the up close pics that it says "PRO HURR..." on them even though the strings are black. I think it's been mentioned that he actually uses Pro Hurricane Tour, which does not come in black...but I guess it's all to promote RPM Blast.
Also mentioned before:
Actually, the reels of string that Rafa gets are labeled "Pro Hurricane Nadal" and the general consesus here is that he is still using Tour Duralast just dyed to look like RPM or previously like PHT.
A couple of the guys have posted in the strings section about getting string cut from Nadal's reel that had similar printing on them.
is his racket's length 26"?
So he's not using RPM blast? Wow seems like blast failed badly. Neither Tsonga nor Roddick switched long term and Rafa is using it PJ-ed
i always wondered, does babolat have pro stock frames like head and wilson?
Good eye ace i didnt even notice the strings said pro hurr on it untill you mentioned haha
I thought it was already established that he uses the actual RPMB not long ago....
Its the same thing!
So bye-bye hopes of stringing with RPM blast and automatically getting a better first serve and backhand slice
In asia Roddick has been using a black string in the mains again that I would assume is RPM Blast.
I learn something NEW everyday I come through here. Great info and comparisons.
WOW !!! Nadal still using his old model Aeropro Drive non-Cortex and non-GT
i just bought one of those racket
Wow where have you been since 2007... he's ALWAYS used the original aeropro drive stick... hard to believe people are still talking about this!!!!!!
aw man, why did I spent money on getting aerodrive pro gt for???
That's what's commercially available. The classic paintjob used by a pro.
They quit mass producing and selling the original APD years ago.
Now, you're left with the used market and truthfully, the original one doesn't come up for auction on e-bay all that often. If you're picky on grip size or prefer one that's harder to find, it makes it all the more difficult.
As of this post, there's only one available on e-bay.
One thing you can do is post a wanted ad in the TTW classifieds.
I don't think that the different versions are much different, they just add some more stuff to make it better for the customers.. Nadal plays with what is comfortable for him, and we should too.
Compared to all the racquets and technologies there are today, if a club player were to pick up the original APD and then the APD-GT (given that we didn't know which one Rafa really uses) then the player would most likely pick the ADP-GT due to less shock, and less torque due to the cortex and GT.
The only reason why people are so unhappy, example:
is because they WANT to use Nadal's gear just because he uses it but by no means is going to make them play like Nadal.. but only (maybe) make them feel something on the racquet that they like and then say "wow so this is why Nadal is so good". When people pick a racquet because a pro uses it, they normally arent educated enough to know that the pro actually doesnt use that racquet. Even if they use the same model, even if they take it off the stock shelf, it will most likely be customized for the pro, with lead tape and so on. So if players really want to be similar to a pro, they should be customizing their own gear and fitting it towards their own styles, not the pros.
yeah guys, dont go with what Nadal use, just buy the new GT ones and sell me your original Aeropro
both Nadal and Roddick's racquets are painted job.
Thanks, I agree with you, I also customized my aeropro drive gt to fit my playing style.
Racquets are like women. Some are thick while others are thin. Some cause you unwanted pain while others make you feel like a king. Some are into all the latest technology while others stick with what has always worked. Some are top heavy while others have more weight towards the butt. You got to find what you like and what makes you feel best. I like Federer but it doesn't mean I want a woman like Mirka.
He's probably using an original APD, non-cortex with a custom layup. Doubtful he ever used the retail version.
true, they probably had multiple prototypes and he picked the one he liked the most, and then Babolat used the final product which Nadal probably doesn't use and then they are marketing that one
imitation can sometimes really improve your game. Look at musicians, you don't start out writing your own amazing compositions, first you have to learn to play others.
he doesn't play instrument nor does he personally know/see someone who does it on a daily basis so he won't know.
tennis is all about repeatation (is it English?), imitation and copytation (is it English?)
Although to be honest Rafa probably uses a stock APD... Babolat doesn't seem to offer the tons of custom work that head and wilson offer
The system at Babolat is very different from the Pro Room programs at Head and Wilson. Babolat doesn't have a pro room, and most of the modifications done for their players are performed in by after-market customizers such as ****, Priority 1, etc. They paintjob essentially stock frames, and the players arrange most of the rest.
I agree with the spirit of what you're saying, but some of the facts just aren't correct. The GT version of the APD is notably and measurably stiffer than the previous two versions. This is a very real physical difference and a result of a different layup. This doesn't mean that one of the versions is better than another, but the original is definitely very different in terms of how it plays from the GT version. On a basic RA scale, the difference can be about 5 points, which is considerable.
For the above reason, your statement about shock is actually a bit backwards, as the stiffer frame will create more shock, despite how it may feel to you personally, or how marketing may be positioning things.
You're dead on about the benefit of choosing your equipment based on one's own game rather than just copying an idol, though.
very profound metaphor. well done sir!
Couldn't Figure It Out...
I have hit for about three days with the Nadal racquet and I cannot get it to work for me. I'm sticking with my Pure Storm GT. It's funny how some racquets just work for me and others don't.
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