Rank Djokodal's 7 victories over Federer at AO

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Top 3 Djokodal victories? Select 3.

  • Djokovic AO08

  • Nadal AO09

  • Djokovic AO11

  • Nadal AO12

  • Nadal AO14

  • Djokovic AO16

  • Djokovic AO20


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AO08: (3) Djokovic def. (1) Federer 75 63 76
AO09: (1) Nadal def. (2) Federer 75 36 76 36 62
AO11: (3) Djokovic def. (2) Federer 76 75 64
AO12: (2) Nadal def. (3) Federer 67 62 76 64
AO14: (1) Nadal def. (6) Federer 76 63 63
AO16: (1) Djokovic def. (3) Federer 61 62 36 63
AO20: (2) Djokovic def. (3) Federer 76 64 63

Discuss.
 
And won one at 35. Go figure.

You better slay :p

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Federer vs Nadal are much more exciting matches to watch, they both have such variety and unique strokes.
 
Interesting. I'm more AO16 > AO12 > the rest. AO20 would rank quite highly if not for vagueness on Federer's condition. ;)
 
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By personal enjoyment:
09, 08, 11, 16, 12, 14, 20

By opponent's level:
16, 11, 08, 14, 09, 12, 20

All of them are exceptional quality matches I could watch over and over, though.
 
Interesting. I'm more AO16 > AO12 > the rest. AO20 would rank quite highly if not for vagueness on Federer's injury. ;)
It's not that interesting when known that here depends more on who is fan of who to determine what is "better".
 
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Would you mind explaining a little more about this one?
16: 6-1 6-2 nuff said
11: Djokovic's highest AO level ever, blasted winners off both wings and dominated Federer even in the FH-to-FH rallies
08: Close to 2011, another case of Djokovic completely outgunning Federer
14: Nadal executing his usual strategy to near-perfection. Never seemed in trouble for one moment. He didn't hit as many highlight-reel shots as 09 or 12, but he didn't need to because he was pinning Federer back in the rallies almost perfectly.
09: Most impressive and entertaining win for Rafa, but in terms of overall playing level he wasn't controlling quite as well as Fed. Had to rely on his defense a little more.
12: Still a super-high level from both but not quite as high as 11
20: Bad back Fed on his C-game vs Djokovic on his B-game. Still a fun match as all Fedovic matches are, but just a shadow of their previous matches. Compare the intensity of 2008 and 11 to 2020, it's like comparing Vader and Obi-Wan's duels in III and IV.
 
16: 6-1 6-2 nuff said
11: Djokovic's highest AO level ever, blasted winners off both wings and dominated Federer even in the FH-to-FH rallies
08: Close to 2011, another case of Djokovic completely outgunning Federer
14: Nadal executing his usual strategy to near-perfection. Never seemed in trouble for one moment. He didn't hit as many highlight-reel shots as 09 or 12, but he didn't need to because he was pinning Federer back in the rallies almost perfectly.
09: Most impressive and entertaining win for Rafa, but in terms of overall playing level he wasn't controlling quite as well as Fed. Had to rely on his defense a little more.
12: Still a super-high level from both but not quite as high as 11
20: Bad back Fed on his C-game vs Djokovic on his B-game. Still a fun match as all Fedovic matches are, but just a shadow of their previous matches. Compare the intensity of 2008 and 11 to 2020, it's like comparing Vader and Obi-Wan's duels in III and IV.
Oh, I thought you meant Fed's level lol.

Would put 2009 over 2014 and probably 2012 as well. Not that 2014 was a bad match, but Nadal didn't need to do anything special there to win. Maybe he could have pulled off something incredible, but we can't really know.

Otherwise, I agree.
 
Oh, I thought you meant Fed's level lol.

Would put 2009 over 2014 and probably 2012 as well. Not that 2014 was a bad match, but Nadal didn't need to do anything special there to win. Maybe he could have pulled off something incredible, but we can't really know.

Otherwise, I agree.
2014 AO Fed was really identical to 2019 AO Rafa: their true level was exposed against a real player.
 
Certainly more valid than mono. Federer had a weaker strain of mono that was only a factor for one month.

Three months directly. Indirectly, screwed up much of the season by upsetting preparations. Actually, a similar argument can be made about le nadal's 2011 AO hamstring injury indirectly impacting the rest of the season, funny I don't see that, good argument yo.
 
Certainly more valid than mono. Federer had a weaker strain of mono that was only a factor for one month.
'More valid'? How do you know how weak the strain was and how much it might have affected his training/performance? Both of these 'excuses' would affect different people different amounts. Some kids take their parents' divorce like an absolute boss, but not all are going to have that reaction based on a whole multitude of factors. It could even act as fuel in this context, who knows? People always go for the extreme take that fits their view; nuance is dead. I imagine both of Fedal were affected by their respective issues; the evidence for the magnitude of which can only really be based on our judgement of things like their treatment, behaviour and performances.
 
points won % vs Federer:

Djokovic 2016 AO - 58.4%
Nadal 2014 AO - 55.0%
Djokovic 2020 AO - 54.9%
Djokovic 2008 AO - 53.2%
Nadal 2012 AO - 52.9%
Djokovic 2011 AO - 51.7%
Nadal 2009 AO - 49.9%
 
Why aren't folks rating Djokovic's 2016 AO win highly?
personally, I'm rating the matches by entertainment value, and to me Djokovic's abuse of geriatric Fed had gotten pretty old by early 2016

2009 > 2011 > 2008 = 2012 > 2016 > 2014 = 2020
 
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Because Fed was old despite being destroying everyone on fast courts at the time, while 2009 AO Nadal in his first hardcourt Slam final was some kind of monster 8-B
1) Fed was destroying everyone on fast courts at the time despite being old. Reads a little differently, doesn't it?
2) Using the fact that Nadal was in his first slam final in an attempt to offset the widely accepted (from all fanbases) fact that it was one of the very finest performances of his career is very the dumb, or at least requires significant ancillary justification.
3) AO 2016. Fast court. Pick one.
4) The win seems to be held in decent esteem; it's just Fed has been taken down by several exceptional performances, not least of which are the 2008 and 2011 straight set beatings at the hands of the very guy you're defending.
 
Three months directly. Indirectly, screwed up much of the season by upsetting preparations. Actually, a similar argument can be made about le nadal's 2011 AO hamstring injury indirectly impacting the rest of the season, funny I don't see that, good argument yo.
Nah Djokovic happened in 2011, period.
 
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