Grand Slam achievements > achievements outside Grand Slams.But he won no Masters titles on anything but clay. He won no big titles in AO or Spring hardcourt season where Fedovic won 3, and he won no fall big tournaments when they won 2/3. On the other hand, Djokovic won 2 Masters on clay and Federer won 1. Their seasons were also more dominant. I don't see why you think that season deserves to be above theirs.
2010 >>>> any RoddickDjokovic was already at his peak in the USO 2010. He had dramatically improved and beat Federer in the USO SF. In the USO 2009 SF, Djokovic lost in 3 sets to Federer. But in the USO 2010 SF Djokovic beat Federer with the same result than in the USO 2011 SF, indicating that he already had peaked. It is not like Djokovic was non-peak the 31th of December of 2010 and suddenly became peak the 1st of January of 2011. He peaked in the last months of 2010, at the USO 2010.
Anyway, 2010 Djokovic >>>> any version of Roddick.
All I can say is that Nadal was not at his best in masters at 2010... But it shouldn't be the criteria to rate his extraordinary slam season. Op should better add a poll here which would be the best
Correct, and it doesn't if you just want to share a good laugh.It does, if your intention is to refute the opponent.
2010 >>>> any Roddick
Djokovic was good in USO 10 but compare that to his 2015 season which he showed better form week in week out.
Djokovic true stride started in DC10 actually he still took quite a few losses after USO 2010.
Lol I have got addicted to this place tbh I can’t help itDon't know how you can respond to such breathtaking analysis.
Roddick NEVER defeated Federer in a Grand Slam match, unlike 2010 Djokovic.2010 >>>> any Roddick
Djokovic was good in USO 10 but compare that to his 2015 season which he showed better form week in week out.
Djokovic true stride started in DC10 actually he still took quite a few losses after USO 2010.
1. Nadal 2010. Only male player to win Grand Slams on 3 different surfaces (clay, grass and hard) the same calendar year and so only male player to dominate the 3 surfaces on Slam level the same calendar year.
2. Djokovic 2011
3. Federer 2006/Djokovic 2015
4. Federer 2007
5. Federer 2004
6. Wilander 1988
Thats what I questioned. How can you rate your primary achievements on the basis of your secondary achievements????
VamosLol I have got addicted to this place tbh I can’t help it![]()
Laugh is not an argument.Pahahaha
Roddick never faced USO 10 Federer though he faced 2004-07 Federer and 2009 Federer. Those are Federer 5 best seasons.Roddick NEVER defeated Federer in a Grand Slam match, unlike 2010 Djokovic.
Comparing Djokovic with Roddick is like comparing Sampras with Ferrero.
Grand Slam achievements > achievements outside Grand Slams.
Roddick never faced USO 10 Federer though he faced 2004-07 Federer and 2009 Federer. Those are Federer 5 best seasons.
Roddick is nowhere Djokovic overall of course. But 2010 Djokovic was not a ATG![]()
Djokovic was an ATG in his beginnings in 2010. Roddick lost to Federer at Wimbledon 2009 while Djokovic defeated Federer at the USO 2010. There is no giant difference from one year to the other in Federer, he just lost to a much better player.Roddick never faced USO 10 Federer though he faced 2004-07 Federer and 2009 Federer. Those are Federer 5 best seasons.
Roddick is nowhere Djokovic overall of course. But 2010 Djokovic was not a ATG![]()
2005 Djokovic vs 2018 Millman would be a good battleMillman > Roddick confirmed
Yes, due to better distribution of surfaces. Donination of all surfaces at Slams level.Yes but his Grand Slam achievements are not greater than Federer or Djokovic's, theirs mostly are since they made all 4 Slam finals, but their achievements outside out Slams are clearly better than his. It's merely cut and dry.
Federer of Wimbeldon 2009 played well for most of the match. Federer of USO 10 had 2 bad sets.Djokovic was an ATG in his beginnings in 2010. Roddick lost to Federer at Wimbledon 2009 while Djokovic defeated Federer at the USO 2010. There is no giant difference from one year to the other in Federer, he just lost to a much better player.
or is like comparing bmw with citroenComparing Djokovic with Roddick is like comparing Sampras with Ferrero.
I never said that Roddick was better than Djokovic btw lol.or is like comparing bmw with citroen![]()
Laugh is not an argument.
He defeated Federer in the USO 2010 SF with the same result than in the USO 2011 SF. In the USO 2009 SF he lost in straight sets to Federer. He was obviously at his peak at the USO 2010. Only because he lost to Nadal it doesn't follow that he wasn't at his peak. I am not talking of all 2010 Djokovic, I am talking specifically of late 2010 Djokovic. At the USO 2010 is when he peaked. It is not like he was non-peak the 31th of December of 2010 and suddenly became peak the 1st of January of 2011. If he had beaten Nadal in the USO 2010 final everyone would say he started his peak there. But only because he lost to Nadal people are putting excuses.Federer of Wimbeldon 2009 played well for most of the match. Federer of USO 10 had 2 bad sets.
I don’t consider 2010 ATG form from Djokovic. You can say we saw flashes but nothing more imo.
He defeated Federer in the USO 2010 SF with the same result than in the USO 2011 SF. In the USO 2009 SF he lost in straight sets to Federer. He was obviously at his peak at the USO 2010. Only because he lost to Nadal it doesn't follow that he wasn't at his peak. I am not talking of all 2010 Djokovic, I am talking specifically of late 2010 Djokovic. At the USO 2010 is when he peaked. It is not like he was non-peak the 31th of December of 2010 and suddenly became peak the 1st of January of 2011. If he had beaten Nadal in the USO 2010 final everyone would say he started his peak there. But only because he lost to Nadal people are putting excuses.
To say that Djokovic wasn't at his peak in the USO 2010 is like saying that Nadal wasn't at his peak in the USO 2011.
He defeated Federer in the USO 2010 SF with the same result than in the USO 2011 SF. In the USO 2009 SF he lost in straight sets to Federer. He was obviously at his peak at the USO 2010. Only because he lost to Nadal it doesn't follow that he wasn't at his peak. I am not talking of all 2010 Djokovic, I am talking specifically of late 2010 Djokovic. At the USO 2010 is when he peaked. It is not like he was non-peak the 31th of December of 2010 and suddenly became peak the 1st of January of 2011. If he had beaten Nadal in the USO 2010 final everyone would say he started his peak there. But only because he lost to Nadal people are putting excuses.
To say that Djokovic wasn't at his peak in the USO 2010 is like saying that Nadal wasn't at his peak in the USO 2011.
He defeated Federer in the USO 2010 SF with the same result than in the USO 2011 SF. In the USO 2009 SF he lost in straight sets to Federer. He was obviously at his peak at the USO 2010. Only because he lost to Nadal it doesn't follow that he wasn't at his peak. I am not talking of all 2010 Djokovic, I am talking specifically of late 2010 Djokovic. At the USO 2010 is when he peaked. It is not like he was non-peak the 31th of December of 2010 and suddenly became peak the 1st of January of 2011. If he had beaten Nadal in the USO 2010 final everyone would say he started his peak there. But only because he lost to Nadal people are putting excuses.
To say that Djokovic wasn't at his peak in the USO 2010 is like saying that Nadal wasn't at his peak in the USO 2011.
If slams were all that we were talking about, I'd agree with you.Nadal is easily #1 for winning a slam on every surface.
It's more like saying Nadal wasn't at his peak in 2007 prior to his big breakout in 08, which I hear all the time.To say that Djokovic wasn't at his peak in the USO 2010 is like saying that Nadal wasn't at his peak in the USO 2011.
Yes, due to better distribution of surfaces. Donination of all surfaces at Slams level.
1. 2015 Djokovic
2. 2006 Federer
3. 2011 Djokovic
4. 1974 Connors
5. 2007 Federer
6. 2010 Nadal
7. 2004 Federer
8. 1988 Wilander
If slams were all that we were talking about, I'd agree with you.
But despite being perhaps his best slam year, it was actually a rather weak season by Rafa's standards.
LOL stop with the excuses Fed fan. There is no way that Djokovic passes from losing in 3 sets to Federer at the USO 2009 to defeating him in the USO 2010 with 0 improvement. I repeat, Djokovic defeated Federer in the USO 2010 with THE SAME SCORE (5 sets) than in the USO 2011 SF.
Nadal of USO 11 was good too but his final serve went he was broken 11 times.
Okay if your talking late 2010 Djokovic then final but I still disagree with peak.
Also Federer was better in the 2009 SF and Djokovic was in similar form.
And in the 2011 match Djokovic was better as well btw.
If Djokovic has beaten a Nadal of the USO 10 with Nadal playing that way then that would have said a lot about Djokovic level and peak but that didn’t happen.
Nadal in 2007 did not defeat Federer in Slams on hard courts. Bad analogy. Djokovic defeated Federer at the USO 2010 in 5 sets, just like he did at the USO 2011.It's more like saying Nadal wasn't at his peak in 2007 prior to his big breakout in 08, which I hear all the time.
Winning doesn’t always mean improving. Federer was better in the USO 2009 SF than in the 2010 SF.LOL stop with the excuses Fed fan. There is no way that Djokovic passes from losing in 3 sets to Federer at the USO 2009 to defeating him in the USO 2010 with 0 improvement. I repeat, Djokovic defeated Federer in the USO 2010 with THE SAME SCORE than in the USO 2011 SF.
It logically follows that Djokovic already peaked in the last months of 2010, specifically in the USO 2010 at the Slam level.
Lol you might wanna keep tabs on this convo. It’s the funniest I have been in.Don't know how you can respond to such breathtaking analysis.
No, he wasn't. He lost in 5 sets to peak Delpo at the USO 2009 and he lost to peak Djokovic at the USO 2010.Winning doesn’t always mean improving. Federer was better in the USO 2009 SF than in the 2010 SF.
Federer level dipped against Del Potro he was on fire against Soderling and Djokovic.No, he wasn't. He lost in 5 sets to peak Delpo at the USO 2009 and he lost to peak Djokovic at the USO 2010.
Also, you did not explain why did Djokovic defeat Federer in 5 sets both at the USO 2010 and USO 2011. There was no difference between both matches simply because Djokovic was already at his peak at the USO 2010.
Why do you always make excuses for Federer's losses? Everytime he loses, he is playing worse than usual. Just accept that the opponent also plays a role. Del Potro defeated a well-playing Federer. No need to look for excuses.Federer level dipped against Del Potro he was on fire against Soderling and Djokovic.
Federer was better in USO 2011 SF than in 2010 SF so was Djokovic. The 2011 match was higher quality.
So it would be a excuse of somebody said Nadal level fell in the Wimbledon 2011 final compared to before it? It isn’t a excuse to say a player is playing better or worse in some matches....Why do you always make excuses for Federer's losses? Everytime he loses, he is playing worse than usual. Just accept that the opponent also plays a role. Del Potro defeated a well-playing Federer. No need to look for excuses.
Yes.So it would be a excuse of somebody said Nadal level fell in the Wimbledon 2011 final compared to before it? It isn’t a excuse to say a player is playing better or worse in some matches....
And Federer had more DFa than aces in the 2009 final his serving was poor.....
Lol you might wanna keep tabs on this convo. It’s the funniest I have been in.
Coming close to beating 2007 in a final on grass is at least as good as beating 2010 Federer on hard in a semifinal.Nadal in 2007 did not defeat Federer in Slams on hard courts. Bad analogy. Djokovic defeated Federer at the USO 2010 in 5 sets, just like he did at the USO 2011.
Nadal is still betterI had no idea you were such a Fednatic.
Coming close to beating 2007 in a final on grass is at least as good as beating 2010 Federer on hard in a semifinal.
Ok. I was only looking at level. It obviously is impressive to win in both cases or against any opponent regardless of level. I will just agree to disagree about 2010 Djokovic.Yes.
Nadal achievements on clay make up for all the restOn clay sure![]()