DreddyTennis45
Hall of Fame
Fed 04 was ridiculously good, aggressive on the ball, didn't give his opponents any room to breathe. Fed 07 had a better backhand possibly forehand too but 04 clinches it for me
Rank the following AO winners by level
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Fed 04 was ridiculously good, aggressive on the ball, didn't give his opponents any room to breathe. Fed 07 had a better backhand possibly forehand too but 04 clinches it for me
NatF
Bionic Poster
04 had the better forehand but 07 was just ridiculously complete from all area's of the court. He was also more confident in 07 IMO, he had a superior mentality.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Which makes 2004 more impressive IMO, since he wasn't yet the juggernaut he would become later. And at that time Hewitt and Nalbandian had dominant winning records over him.
NatF
Bionic Poster
He didn't drop a set in 07, nothing more impressive than that. Level of play wise I think 2007 was better.
metsman
G.O.A.T.
4R the last 3 sets against Hewitt were ridiculous and Hewitt was a much better opponent than that Novak so I don't mind that he lost a set
NatF
Bionic Poster
Federer was poor in the set he lost. It's not just that he lost the set but that he lost it with a plethora of missed volleys and errors. Obviously he raised his game superbly after that but Fed was pretty great in 2007 as well, felt he had an extra gear in reserve too.
-NN-
G.O.A.T.
The eye test tells me Fed's game was more varied in 2007 while retaining the dynamism he had in 2004, but his 2004 draw and the way he dismantled it was very impressive. 2010 gets undervalued. Those are the 3 AO performances from Federer that I find to be excellent. Guess you can put them in whatever order, though 2010 will usually come third.
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I think that the SF in 07 vs Roddick was the best match Fed ever played at the AO, but his 04 was a better tournament as a whole.
Druss
Hall of Fame
You obviously never seen that semi then!
That was the start of the juggernaut. He'd shown the level at 2003 Wimbledon. It became the norm after 2004 Australian Open
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I saw it
Luckydog
Professional
Really ?How do you rate Fed's performance in 1st and 3rd set in 2004 USO final ? Double 6:0!
JoelSandwich
Hall of Fame
Alright I’ve taken some time to watch matches from each of these choices and I agree this is really hard to order but I’d prob go with something like this
1/2 and 3-5 are both basically a tie imo I could see those orders being anything
1/2 and 3-5 are both basically a tie imo I could see those orders being anything
- Federer 2007
- Federer 2004
- Safin 2005
- Djokovic 2011
- Agassi 1995
- Djokovic 2008
- Nadal 2009
- Sampras 1994
- Agassi 2000
swordtennis
G.O.A.T.
2016
2011
2019
Giving the AO GOAT the credit when the credit is way past due around here!
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Didn't he make like 14 errors in the SF and F combined in 6 sets in 2019 though?
He is the definitely the AO GOAT in every way. None of those players on that list would have a winning record against him at that tournament.
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swordtennis
G.O.A.T.
It was some insane low number i think you got the numbers right. 2016 was unreal.
Hell they would have a hell of a time having a winning record against him at any tournament. Excuses and hypotheticals win you nothing! Nada. Ziltch.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
It was 14.
He made 9 in the final. He made 58 winners and 14 unforced errors in that last two matches. For comparison, he made 13 errors in the 2016 SF. I still may have to give it to 2016 though because he was completely unplayable for two sets. I don't think I've ever seen anybody play like that consistency with virtually no errors on a hardcourt before. To me, that day was his true peak.
swordtennis
G.O.A.T.
Ditto being his pinnacle in that 2016 final. Very thankful he was able to slog along and get that FO title. The crash and burn was intense after lol! Not bad for a talentless lucky mug! Lol.It was 14.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
More like not bad for a talentless and worthless pusher.
. Yea on a serious note, his performances in the SF and F of that RG are very underrated and don't get the credit they deserve. I guess they were worth the crash and burn that came pretty instantly. Lol
swordtennis
G.O.A.T.
Holy shoot i totally forgot he is a POS poosher that would be lucky to win a set against any of the greats past or present.More like not bad for a talentless and worthless pusher.
Love how BG stated during wimbledon about how agassi told him Djoker would be the worst out of the big 3 for him to go up against. Love to be a fly on the wall during their convos. Both are tennis master minds.
OldschoolKIaus
Hall of Fame
1. Fedr 07
2. Safin 05
3. Fedr 17
4. Fedr 18
5. Johansson 02
6. Stan 14
7. Agassi 95
8. Fedr 10
9. Fedr 04
10. Fedr 06
2. Safin 05
3. Fedr 17
4. Fedr 18
5. Johansson 02
6. Stan 14
7. Agassi 95
8. Fedr 10
9. Fedr 04
10. Fedr 06
swordtennis
G.O.A.T.
I could interchange 2007 fed with 2019 djoker. But i am going against the ttw grain and giving credit when credit is long past due.Federer 2007.
Won the tournament without dropping a set and beat Novak on the way too!
xFedal
Legend
Djokovic has to be no.1 where level of play is concerned .....2016/2011/2019 all 3 years done against great Opponents.
JoelSandwich
Hall of Fame
His level of play was pretty great but I don’t agree that his opponents were great
Fed in 11 was a solid opponent but aside from that he didn’t face anyone who was that tough
NatF
Bionic Poster
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Lmao. You've taken your trolling to new heights.
xFedal
Legend
Neither did Federer in 2004 or 2007 face anybody that was tough.... Djokovic beat Federer and Murray in 2011..... Murray/Nadal 2012.......
xFedal
Legend
Djokovic defeats Rafael Nadal 6-3 6-2 6-3 in 2019 AUSTRALIAN OPEN FINAL..... Nadal din't even drop a set until he got demolished by Djokovic..... Moreover Djokovic showed he can bring that insane level of play which he showed in 2016 AO against Fed, to Nadal as well....
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Lol. Amazing what some of the stuff "fans" say in regards to Djokovic's prowess. Yea I heard BG say that as well. True tennis coaches and champions of the game know what they're talking about at the end of the day. Not armchair critics.
JoelSandwich
Hall of Fame
Djokovic is anything but a pusher
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
NatF
Bionic Poster
Lol Nadal was garbage in that match.
As far as opponents go Federer in 2011 was a great win, Murderer in 2016 were decent and Nadal in 2019 was poor.
Djokovic was obviously insane in the final though, irrespective of how bad Nadal was.
The Blond Blur
G.O.A.T.
Fedr - 2007
Djokovic - 2011
Nadal - 2009
Safin - 2005
Fedr - 2004
Agassi- 1995
Djokovic - 2008
Sampras - 1994
Agassi - 2000
Djokovic - 2011
Nadal - 2009
Safin - 2005
Fedr - 2004
Agassi- 1995
Djokovic - 2008
Sampras - 1994
Agassi - 2000
swordtennis
G.O.A.T.
Time for tennis to give the man credit for what he has done. He has had monstrous highs and massive lows. Perseverance personified!
xFedal
Legend
Agreed......but he is behind right now.....desperately needs to win USO.... OTHERWISE NADAL MAY CLINCH YE#1...
swordtennis
G.O.A.T.
Ageeed tho gonzo was a much grater stronger opponent than any version of fedal.
Nadal is gunning for it. He is already on the hard courts! Wtf the bull is crazed and driven! He was supposed to be retired crippled and in a wheel chair they claimed!
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Absolutely. Put either version against anybody on that list and all you can do is wish them luck.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Djokovic crushes both Federer and Nadal, and they were not good opponents. Nevermind, Federer won it a year later and it's regarded as one of his greatest victories. Djokovic turned Federer into a spectator in 2016. That's how good he was.
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I think we need to keep in mind here, Sampras, Agassi, Safin and peak Federer won their titles on a completely different surface than Djokovic, Nadal and Wawrinka. The surfaces do play differently.
RS
Bionic Poster
Federer AO 2004/2005/2007 Safin AO 2005 and Nadal AO 2009 would not be easy versions to face. Djokovic might need 5 sets for a lot of these versions.
OldschoolKIaus
Hall of Fame
Pretty nice thread about AO.
Djoko's insecure fanboys turn it into a platform for their "BUT NOVAK IS SOOOOO GOOD, YOU FOOLS!"-agenda.
Only on TTW
Djoko's insecure fanboys turn it into a platform for their "BUT NOVAK IS SOOOOO GOOD, YOU FOOLS!"-agenda.
Only on TTW
Noleberic123
G.O.A.T.
I will take 2019 over 2016. 2019 Djokovic AO practically wasn't missing any balls while being very aggressive in the final. I have never seen a stat like his in the SF-F. 14 unforced errors in two matches and 6 sets is ridiculous.It was 14.
This is how I rank Djokovic's AOs
1. 2019
2. 2016
3. 2011 (it's slightly overrated IMO)
4. 2008
5. 2012
6. 2013
7. 2015
Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil
Talk Tennis Guru
That is a fact, not an agenda. If you don't like it, maybe you should just get lost for once.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Federer in 05 and 07 was better than he was in 2004 imo. Nadal would be tough no doubt but it's slow hardcourt against Djokovic. Safin would be tough but I just don't see him beating Djokovic 2016 SF version.
Noleberic123
G.O.A.T.
Roddick was garbage in 2007 too. But it wouldn't have made much of a difference anyway.
Please tell me which version of Nadal could beat 2019 AO Djokovic?
Only 2007 Federer could possibly stand a chance.
