Rank the following AO winners by level

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
I will take 2019 over 2016. 2019 Djokovic AO practically wasn't missing any balls while being very aggressive in the final. I have never seen a stat like his in the SF-F. 14 unforced errors in two matches and 6 sets is ridiculous.

This is how I rank Djokovic's AOs

1. 2019
2. 2016
3. 2011 (it's slightly overrated IMO)
4. 2008
5. 2012
6. 2013
7. 2015

I can see why some would rank 2019 higher because it was a high level. I still would probably keep 2016 first though. I agree with the rest of your rankings.
 

TheAssassin

Legend
As I said before, 2005 Safin, 2007 Fed and 2011 Djokovic would be at the top for me.

Marat got the better of peak Fed in one of the best matches ever and also beat Hewitt who had a great run and played well in the final. The other two had the most dominant runs despite some of their opponents playing well for 2nd Slam week standards.
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
Oh really? I think Novak gets a fair bit of credit.
Yeah, Djoker's pretty decent.:)
Where? They got fed safin and others above him. Gonzo and roddick stronger oppoenrnts than fedal!
I am giving full credit where credit is long past due around here! Djokovic is the AO king! Facts over hypotheticals and xcuses!
 

Noleberic123

G.O.A.T.
As I said before, 2005 Safin, 2007 Fed and 2011 Djokovic would be at the top for me.

Marat got the better of peak Fed in one of the best matches ever and also beat Hewitt who had a great run and played well in the final. The other two had the most dominant runs despite some of their opponents playing well for 2nd Slam week standards.
Did you watch 2016 and 2019?

I still think 2011 slightly overrated. Impressive but overrated.

Fed 2007 was pretty much God. Can't argue with that one.

05 Safin impressive but I will take Novak 2011,2016,2019 and Fed 07 over Safin 05.
 
Federer in 05 and 07 was better than he was in 2004 imo. Nadal would be tough no doubt but it's slow hardcourt against Djokovic. Safin would be tough but I just don't see him beating Djokovic 2016 SF version.
2004 Federer was actually the most exciting version of younger so called "Peak Federer" playing risky and aggressive tennis with amazing shotmaking. 2005-07 Fedr was dull, safe, playing "percentage tennis" Federer. In that period of time he was by far the best baseliner in the game, and that's why he was winning basically everything outside clay.
 

TheAssassin

Legend
Did you watch 2016 and 2019?

I still think 2011 slightly overrated. Impressive but overrated.

Fed 2007 was pretty much God. Can't argue with that one.

05 Safin impressive but I will take Novak 2011,2016,2019 and Fed 07 over Safin 05.
I did. In 2016 his first two sets against Fed might have been the best he's ever played, and the final two rounds in 2019 were some of the cleanest aggressive tennis ever. But he had his lapses in those two tournaments, against worse opponents.

It would be tight. Safin at his best was up there with the all time greats, unfortunately he didn't deliver as often.
 
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Noleberic123

G.O.A.T.
I did. In 2016 his first two sets against Fed might have been the best he's ever played, and the final two rounds in 2019 were some of the cleanest aggressive ever. But he had his lapses in those two tournaments, against worse opponents.

It would be tight. Safin at his best was up there with the all time greats, unfortunately he didn't deliver as often.
Yeah he was kinda like Ronaldinho ;)
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
He played a great tournament! Obviously joking about him being the peak of AO champions but I always quite liked Johansson’s game, wish he was a bit more consistent!
Ditto i was only half joking. I still remember that final. I was playing late league matches and got home. Thought safin was going to destroy TJ. Fell asleep after the 1st set. He won it. I was surprised safin finally won a 2nd major to be honest. Lol.
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
I can see why some would rank 2019 higher because it was a high level. I still would probably keep 2016 first though. I agree with the rest of your rankings.
I rank 2019 way up. Djokovic could win 6-0, 6-0, 6-0 zero errors 100% on serve and return etc etc still be but but fedal had a hang nail.
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
2004 Federer was actually the most exciting version of younger so called "Peak Federer" playing risky and aggressive tennis with amazing shotmaking. 2005-07 Fedr was dull, safe, playing "percentage tennis" Federer. In that period of time he was by far the best baseliner in the game, and that's why he was winning basically everything outside clay.

He just seemed more efficient and zoned in in 2005 compared to 2004 to me. I just don't know if Nalbandian would have pushed that version like he did in 2004. It took a goating Safin to stop him who could never duplicate that level ever again in his career. But I agree how his shotmaking was great in 2004.
 
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RS

Bionic Poster
Federer in 05 and 07 was better than he was in 2004 imo. Nadal would be tough no doubt but it's slow hardcourt against Djokovic. Safin would be tough but I just don't see him beating Djokovic 2016 SF version.
I think picking Djokovic in 5 at peak level could be a safe bet for me over these versions.
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
Roddick was garbage in 2007 too. But it wouldn't have made much of a difference anyway.

Please tell me which version of Nadal could beat 2019 AO Djokovic?

Only 2007 Federer could possibly stand a chance.

Did I say Roddick was good? Did I say Nadal could beat 2019 Djokovic?

You guys are too defensive. I rightly tell it how it is where 2019 Nadal is concerned and you guys start bringing up Gonzo etc...patting yourselves on the back over strawman arguments.

Its like at Wimby, Nadal came into the SF in apparent career best form but on the day he was decent but far from spectacular.

Call a spade a spade...
 
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Noleberic123

G.O.A.T.
Did I say Roddick was good? Did I say Nadal could beat 2019 Djokovic?

You guys are too defensive. I rightly tell it how it is where 2019 Nadal is concerned and you guys start bringing up Gonzo etc...patting yourselves on the back over strawman arguments.

Its like at Wimby, Nadal came into the SF in apparent career best form but on the day he was decent but far from spectacular.

Call a spade a spade...
But you're the one who brought up the fact that Nadal was garbage. Why don't you ever mention how bad Roddick was?

We both know that we have yet to witness a version of Nadal that can beat 2019 AO Djokovjc.
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
But you're the one who brought up the fact that Nadal was garbage. Why don't you ever mention how bad Roddick was?

We both know that we have yet to witness a version of Nadal that can beat 2019 AO Djokovjc.

Because I was replying to someone that said 2019 Nadal was a great opponent not someone that said Federer in 2007 beat great opponents?

:rolleyes:

I've never questioned the quality of Novak's play in the final, only the quality of Nadal's...
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
I'm wondering how we could rank 2016 Djokovic here, considering his level fluctuated a lot throughout that tournament.

SF/F are the most important rounds so it has to rate highly. The final aside from the first set wasn't that great imo so I'd put it below 2011 at least but it was very good.
 

Third Serve

Talk Tennis Guru
More than made up for it with his devastating displays in SF/F IMO

That's true, of course. What I'm wondering is whether the tournament still qualifies as a top 5 AO performance like some here rate it. Definitely below 2011 and might be slightly better than or tied with 2008, in my opinion.
 

serbiavic

Professional
I put Nadal's 09 on the list.

And sure in general Verdasco's best is not Nadal's best but on that day it sure was. Verdasco played at a ridiculous level. I've watched that match in full a few times in the last couple years and I can't find much to complain about either guy level-wise aside from Dasco tightening up the last 2 games

At the AO it was Nadals best. 2012 AO nadal was imo not as good.
 

KINGROGER

G.O.A.T.
2004 Federer was actually the most exciting version of younger so called "Peak Federer" playing risky and aggressive tennis with amazing shotmaking. 2005-07 Fedr was dull, safe, playing "percentage tennis" Federer. In that period of time he was by far the best baseliner in the game, and that's why he was winning basically everything outside clay.
“So called”

It’s just one endless stream of trolling :laughing:
 
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Deleted member 762343

Guest
More than made up for it with his devastating displays in SF/F IMO

Looks like 16 is a number that suits Djokovic very well, when you think about it.

Djokovic - 2011
Federer - 2004
Agassi- 1995
Federer - 2007
Safin- 2005
Djokovic - 2008
Agassi - 2000
Nadal - 2009
Sampras - 1994

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Noleberic123

G.O.A.T.
That's true, of course. What I'm wondering is whether the tournament still qualifies as a top 5 AO performance like some here rate it. Definitely below 2011 and might be slightly better than or tied with 2008, in my opinion.
Both 2011 and 2008 are overrated. In 2016 and 2019 he pretty much didn't miss.
 
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