Rank the levels of the last 10 Grand Slam Champions

[weakera]

Please rank from strongest to weakest:

2024 AO Jannik Sinner
2023 US Novak Djokovic
2023 WI Carlos Alcaraz
2023 RG Novak Djokovic
2023 AO Novak Djokovic
2022 US Carlos Alcaraz
2022 WI Novak Djokovic
2022 RG Rafael Nadal
2022 AO Rafael Nadal
2021 US Daniil Medvedev

 

[InsideOut900]

Djoko AO 23/Nadal RG 22
Nadal RG 22/Djoko AO 23
Djoko Wimb 22
Raz Wimb 23
Djoko USO 23
Medvedev USO 21
Sinner AO 24
Djoko RG 23
Raz USO 22
Nadal AO 22

RG 23, USO 22, AO 22 are all a tier below the other seven.

 

[fedfan24]

Please rank from strongest to weakest:

2024 AO Jannik Sinner
2023 US Novak Djokovic
2023 WI Carlos Alcaraz
2023 RG Novak Djokovic
2023 AO Novak Djokovic
2022 US Carlos Alcaraz
2022 WI Novak Djokovic
2022 RG Rafael Nadal
2022 AO Rafael Nadal
2021 US Daniil Medvedev

Nadal 22 RG
Djokovic 23 AO
Alcaraz 23 W
Djokovic 22 WI
Sinner 24 AO
Djokovic 23 USO
Alcaraz 22 USO
Medvedev 21 USO

Nadal 22 AO
Djokovic 23 RG

 

[RS]

This just shows how low we really rate tennis post covid.

 

[MeatTornado]

2021 USO Medvedev
↓
the rest

@Kralingen

 

[aldeayeah]

2021 USO Medvedev
↓
the rest

@Kralingen

Only slam won by a player in his prime since 2016 lol (other than 2020 USO*)

 

[Kralingen]

2021 USO Medvedev
↓
the rest

@Kralingen

lol he probably was the best non Big 3 level of the group, which is just sad

 

[The Guru]

A little surprised at some of these ratings. I think Djokovic was clearly better at the USO than the AO in 23 in fact I'd even say his RG final performance was better than his AO final performance but people are rating that RG super low and the AO super high. I also think the bottom 3 is clearly Sinner/Nadal AO and Carlos USO everything else clearly better imo.

 

[RS]

A little surprised at some of these ratings. I think Djokovic was clearly better at the USO than the AO in 23 in fact I'd even say his RG final performance was better than his AO final performance but people are rating that RG super low and the AO super high. I also think the bottom 3 is clearly Sinner/Nadal AO and Carlos USO eve

I would have expected higher ratings for Djokovic's wins but Djokovic fans don't tend to rate so it's misleading.

Even Alcaraz's USO 22 was rated fairly well at the time has diminished in ratings since.

 

[RS]

lol he probably was the best non Big 3 level of the group, which is just sad

Nalbandian USO 03 vs Med USO 21?

 

[BauerAlmeida]

A little surprised at some of these ratings. I think Djokovic was clearly better at the USO than the AO in 23

His USO 2023 was pretty good and underrated, I think it can go either way. But Medvedev is a better player than anyone he faced at AO and won in straights, so I would lean in that direction.

in fact I'd even say his RG final performance was better than his AO final performance but people are rating that RG super low and the AO super high.

Could be, but the AO final was among his least impressive performances in the tournament, he needed two tiebreaks while he was very impressive in the matches vs Rublev and De Minaur.

I also think the bottom 3 is clearly Sinner/Nadal AO and Carlos USO everything else clearly better imo.

I wouldn't put Sinner near the bottom, he beat Djokovic at the AO and didn't lose a set until the SF. His worst level came in the first two sets in the final, but it was understandable given the context.

 

[Kralingen]

A little surprised at some of these ratings. I think Djokovic was clearly better at the USO than the AO in 23 in fact I'd even say his RG final performance was better than his AO final performance but people are rating that RG super low and the AO super high. I also think the bottom 3 is clearly Sinner/Nadal AO and Carlos USO everything else clearly better imo.

Leaving aside the Djere debacle? Because if you include it don’t think we can say he was “clearly better” at the USO than anywhere.

He did seem to be sharper in the USO F than the AO F honestly, obviously Med is better than Tsitsipas. He was just riding the survival wave until Tsitsipas let him off the hook to almost comical degree in the AO final. The 2nd set TB was one of the most pathetic things I’ve ever seen in a Slam final.

That being said, everyone remembers how bad Tsitsipas was and how he mugged up the final, but no one talks about what Medvedev did to give away the break in the 1st and 3rd set - and how it was quietly just as laughable.

1st set break: nervous 3rd ball UE into the net, 0-15. Double fault, 0-30. 2nd serve, tentative baseline play, Djokovic winner, 0-40. On BP: easy 3rd ball UE.

3rd set break similarly came via 4 Medvedev UEs, including 3 straight from 15-all.

When you’re a defensive player with a big time 130mph serve and you give away both breaks in a Slam final with 7/8 of lost points being UEs… not great.

 

[BauerAlmeida]

2023 US Novak Djokovic
2023 WI Carlos Alcaraz
2024 AO Jannik Sinner
2023 AO Novak Djokovic
2022 RG Rafael Nadal
2022 WI Novak Djokovic
2021 US Daniil Medvedev
2022 AO Rafael Nadal
2023 RG Novak Djokovic
2022 US Carlos Alcaraz

 

[jl809]

1. Nadal RG 22
2. Alcaraz Wimbledon 23
3. Medvedev USO 21 = Sinner AO 24
4. Djokovic AO 23 = Djokovic USO 23
5. Djokovic RG 23
6. Nadal AO 22
7. Alcaraz USO 22

Djokovic Wimbledon 22 is such a weird one. I can't rank it.

Purely on the final, it goes comfortably 2nd, probably even competing for 1st... but the final was so drastically different to run overall which up to that point had been comfortably worse than Tiny's USO 22. The Norrie match was one of the worst viewing experiences of my life. Genuinely never seen such a reversal for a final compared to previous rounds

 

[The Sinner]

1) 2022 RG Nadal
2) 2024 AO Sinner
3) 2023 Wb Alcaraz
4) 2023 AO Djokovic
5) 2021 USO Medvedev
6) 2023 USO Djokovic
7) 2022 Wb Djokovic
8) 2023 RG Djokovic
9) 2022 AO Nadal
10) 2022 USO Alcaraz.

 

[vive le beau jeu !]

1) 2023 WI Carlos Alcaraz
2) 2024 AO Jannik Sinner
3) 2022 US Carlos Alcaraz
2021 US Daniil Medvedev
2023 AO Novak Djokovic
2023 RG Novak Djokovic
2022 WI Novak Djokovic
2023 US Novak Djokovic
2022 RG the nadal
2022 AO the nadal

 

[The Sinner]

1) 2023 WI Carlos Alcaraz
2) 2024 AO Jannik Sinner
3) 2022 US Carlos Alcaraz
2021 US Daniil Medvedev
2023 AO Novak Djokovic
2023 RG Novak Djokovic
2022 WI Novak Djokovic
2023 US Novak Djokovic
2022 RG the nadal
2022 AO the nadal

I get the impression you’re not the Nadal’s biggest fan, lol.

 

[The Blond Blur]

This honestly just illustrates how terribad tennis has been the last 4 years. You can honestly rate them more or less in any order and it’d be “right”.

 

[The Sinner]

It’s truly amazing.

Many Fedal fans have been wingeing about the state of tennis these last few years, complaining that there are no ATG level promising young-guns coming through. Now you get two (ok, Raz has had a dip lately, but that’s normal, Djoko had it too after his breakthrough; I’m sure he’ll rebound), yet you guys keep denying it, and keep mocking them, forever waiting for the ‘Messiah’.

 

[Angrybirdstar]

RG '22 Nadal
AO '23 Djokovic
Wimbly '23 Alcaraz
Wimbly '22 Djokovic
AO '24 Sinner
USO '21 Medvedev
USO '23 Djokovic
RG '23 Djokovic
USO '22 Alcaraz
AO '22 Nadal

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Leaving aside the Djere debacle? Because if you include it don’t think we can say he was “clearly better” at the USO than anywhere.

He did seem to be sharper in the USO F than the AO F honestly, obviously Med is better than Tsitsipas. He was just riding the survival wave until Tsitsipas let him off the hook to almost comical degree in the AO final. The 2nd set TB was one of the most pathetic things I’ve ever seen in a Slam final.

That being said, everyone remembers how bad Tsitsipas was and how he mugged up the final, but no one talks about what Medvedev did to give away the break in the 1st and 3rd set - and how it was quietly just as laughable.

1st set break: nervous 3rd ball UE into the net, 0-15. Double fault, 0-30. 2nd serve, tentative baseline play, Djokovic winner, 0-40. On BP: easy 3rd ball UE.

3rd set break similarly came via 4 Medvedev UEs, including 3 straight from 15-all.

When you’re a defensive player with a big time 130mph serve and you give away both breaks in a Slam final with 7/8 of lost points being UEs… not great.

But how was the Sunday roast? Don't be rude, respond this time. You're welcome.

 

[InsideOut900]

A little surprised at some of these ratings. I think Djokovic was clearly better at the USO than the AO in 23 in fact I'd even say his RG final performance was better than his AO final performance but people are rating that RG super low and the AO super high. I also think the bottom 3 is clearly Sinner/Nadal AO and Carlos USO everything else clearly better imo.

What gives? He played better at AO 23 in every round except the final. Particularly better in the 4R to SF.

Only the finals are comparable and he still peaked higher in AO during 3rd set there.
He is better in Australia then New York, plain as it is.

 

[weakera]

It’s truly amazing.

Many Fedal fans have been wingeing about the state of tennis these last few years, complaining that there are no ATG level promising young-guns coming through. Now you get two (ok, Raz has had a dip lately, but that’s normal, Djoko had it too after his breakthrough; I’m sure he’ll rebound), yet you guys keep denying it, and keep mocking them, forever waiting for the ‘Messiah’.

If Sinner had to have faced a prime Djokovic at AO it would have been ugly. Don't get ahead of yourself.

 

[weakera]

For me Alcaraz USO is the worst by far. There isn't a close 9th.

 

[The Sinner]

If Sinner had to have faced a prime Djokovic at AO it would have been ugly. Don't get ahead of yourself.

Age for age Buddy. If you wanna make it fair, compare Sinner now with 2009 Djoko.

 

[weakera]

Age for age Buddy. If you wanna make it fair, compare Sinner now with 2009 Djoko.

Now do 2009 Nadal at the AO vs. 2024 Sinner lol. Both 22-years old, right?

 

[The Sinner]

Now do 2009 Nadal at the AO vs. 2024 Sinner lol. Both 22-years old, right?

Of course it’s AO 09 Nadal! He is an early bloomer, and was well in his peak by then, Bit unfair to compare, to say the least. Players peak at different times.

 

[weakera]

Of course it’s AO 09 Nadal! He is an early bloomer, and was well in his peak by then, Bit unfair to compare, to say the least. Players peak at different times.

I would give 2008 Djokovic the strong advantage as well. I'm not trying to be a hater, the big three are special, and I'm just saying I do not see Sinner as approaching their levels yet.

 

[InsideOut900]

For me Alcaraz USO is the worst by far. There isn't a close 9th.

Generally yes, Ned played better in most rounds, but then there is a question if Nadal would survive Sinner in the QF and if he would survive Cilic-Sinner-Tiafoe-Ruud in a row.

 

[The Sinner]

I would give 2008 Djokovic the strong advantage as well. I'm not trying to be a hater, the big three are special, and I'm just saying I do not see Sinner as approaching their levels yet.

Let's just wait and see. Nobody in 2008, predicted Djokovic would end up winning 24 slams and being No1 for over 400 weeks.

 

[weakera]

Let's just wait and see. Nobody in 2008, predicted Djokovic would end up winning 24 slams and being No1 for over 400 weeks.

Fair enough. I would never state that Sinner or Alcaraz could never reach a big three level. Only that they haven't yet.

 

[vive le beau jeu !]

I get the impression you’re not the Nadal’s biggest fan, lol.

may i ask what led you to this unanticipated conclusion?

 

[inflation_era]

Tennis keeps evolving, so the list in OP is correct as is.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Nadal RG 22/Djoko AO 23
Djoko Wimb 22
Djoko USO 23
Medvedev USO 21
Djoko RG 23
Raz USO 22
Nadal AO 22

1. Djokovic AO 23
2. Alcaraz Wimby 23
3. Sinner AO 24
4. Nadal RG 22
5. Nadal AO 22

Everything else is up to debate.
Djokovic was almost unbeatable in AO 23 even with movement restricted. And Alcaraz showed level not seen before by him pasting Medvedev in semis. I think sinner deserves a nod above Nadal for sailing to the final but I can move Nadal RG 22 on third spot as well.

 

[The Guru]

Leaving aside the Djere debacle? Because if you include it don’t think we can say he was “clearly better” at the USO than anywhere.

He did seem to be sharper in the USO F than the AO F honestly, obviously Med is better than Tsitsipas. He was just riding the survival wave until Tsitsipas let him off the hook to almost comical degree in the AO final. The 2nd set TB was one of the most pathetic things I’ve ever seen in a Slam final.

That being said, everyone remembers how bad Tsitsipas was and how he mugged up the final, but no one talks about what Medvedev did to give away the break in the 1st and 3rd set - and how it was quietly just as laughable.

1st set break: nervous 3rd ball UE into the net, 0-15. Double fault, 0-30. 2nd serve, tentative baseline play, Djokovic winner, 0-40. On BP: easy 3rd ball UE.

3rd set break similarly came via 4 Medvedev UEs, including 3 straight from 15-all.

When you’re a defensive player with a big time 130mph serve and you give away both breaks in a Slam final with 7/8 of lost points being UEs… not great.

This might be a philosophical difference. I put basically 0 weight on the 1st week. I look at the Djere match and think is that level good enough to win 99.9% of third rounds and to me the answer is clearly yes. I mostly look at QF-F giving final the most weight unless there's obvious reasons not to like RG 13.

 

[The Guru]

Could be, but the AO final was among his least impressive performances in the tournament, he needed two tiebreaks while he was very impressive in the matches vs Rublev and De Minaur.

I wouldn't put Sinner near the bottom, he beat Djokovic at the AO and didn't lose a set until the SF. His worst level came in the first two sets in the final, but it was understandable given the context.

I just don't put as much weight into those matches but fair enough. Don't think AO was bad at all but his final performance was not as sharp as the other two.

The Djokovic match is not impressive at all to me. Djokovic was truly awful in those first two sets the worst we've probably ever seen late in a grand slam and then he went from being woeful to just bad and it became competitive. Then Med who wasn't even in great form schooled him before he lost his legs. Just not at all impressed by that.

 

[mike danny]

This might be a philosophical difference. I put basically 0 weight on the 1st week. I look at the Djere match and think is that level good enough to win 99.9% of third rounds and to me the answer is clearly yes. I mostly look at QF-F giving final the most weight unless there's obvious reasons not to like RG 13.

And unless there’s a special 4R like AO 2013 and AO 2004.

 

[The Guru]

And unless there’s a special 4R like AO 2013 and AO 2004.

Sure there are obviously exceptions to the rule. Players breaking through before their rankings reflect like Stan or Safin being unseeded because of injury or other weird things like that can make early round matches carry more weight.

 

[mike danny]

Sure there are obviously exceptions to the rule. Players breaking through before their rankings reflect like Stan or Safin being unseeded because of injury or other weird things like that can make early round matches carry more weight.

True, though I did mean Hewitt with AO 2004

 

[duaneeo]

2023 WB Alcaraz
2024 AO Sinner
2022 USO Alcaraz

All the others tie for #10.

 

[RS]

True, though I did mean Hewitt with AO 2004

This match isn't talked about much on here actually.

 

[fishpiefriday]

Nadal > the rest.