Rank top5 players from current tour in terms of.........

SonnyT

Hall of Fame
Least likely to give a creditable GS finals performance:

Zverev
Medvedev
Nishikori
Djokovic (RG only)
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
If it's in general and not just clay, then, in no particular order:

Federer
Djokovic
Thiem
Zverev
Fognini.
 

RaulRamirez

Legend
Not a huge fan of this question (I may be reading it with a thin skin) as it implies that this is Rafa's only tactic...but anyway, per all surfaces, if not in order, currently - other than Novak:

Med (they haven't played on clay, and Med is not good there yet, but on hard...)
Thiem - hits the high BH well
Tsit - yes, another ohbh, but..
Zverev - Tall, rangy, solid BH, very good DTL
Fognini, when the stars align
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Not a huge fan of this question (I may be reading it with a thin skin) as it implies that this is Rafa's only tactic...but anyway, per all surfaces, if not in order, currently - other than Novak:

Med (they haven't played on clay, and Med is not good there yet, but on hard...)
Thiem - hits the high BH well
Tsit - yes, another ohbh, but..
Zverev - Tall, rangy, solid BH, very good DTL
Fognini, when the stars align
Federer over Tsits easily. Stef doesn't belong there. It's clearly a horrible match-up for him still.
 

RaulRamirez

Legend
Federer over Tsits easily. Stef doesn't belong there. It's clearly a horrible match-up for him still.
It depends on how broadly or narrowly we define this.

I don't know if that's still the case, although my respect for Fed is such that I would still favor him over Rafa on grass and indoor HC, have them close to 50-50 on outdoor HC and not much of a chance on clay. The last 4 matches between Rafa and Tsit have been very close, with Tsit (of course) staging the comeback at AO and nearly toppling him at Barcelona in the last couple. So, looking narrowly at who is the bigger clay court threat to Rafa, I think it's clearly Tsitsipas. On grass, still Roger, and it's probably about the same on HCs now. Just looking at the CC FH to BH exchanges, I'm not sure. Obviously. I'd take 2017 (and 18) Fed!!
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
It depends on how broadly or narrowly we define this.

I don't know if that's still the case, although my respect for Fed is such that I would still favor him over Rafa on grass and indoor HC, have them close to 50-50 on outdoor HC and not much of a chance on clay. The last 4 matches between Rafa and Tsit have been very close, with Tsit (of course) staging the comeback at AO and nearly toppling him at Barcelona in the last couple. So, looking narrowly at who is the bigger clay court threat to Rafa, I think it's clearly Tsitsipas. On grass, still Roger, and it's probably about the same on HCs now. Just looking at the CC FH to BH exchanges, I'm not sure. Obviously. I'd take 2017 (and 18) Fed!!
I had 2017-2019 Fed in mind since current Nadal isn't really better than Nadal of back then.

And their AO match actually makes my point: if Nadal's level and stamina hadn't dropped, Tsits would have been straight setted as he was getting clobbered in the first 2 sets.
 

RaulRamirez

Legend
I had 2017-2019 Fed in mind since current Nadal isn't really better than Nadal of back then.

And their AO match actually makes my point: if Nadal's level and stamina hadn't dropped, Tsits would have been straight setted as he was getting clobbered in the first 2 sets.
Okay...yeah, I was mostly looking at (assumed) current levels.
 
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