Ranking the Big 4’s runs at the AO aged 35, by epicness
jl809
Hall of Fame
Shhh none of that nonsense here please
Tennfan123
Hall of Fame
How can you rank a run that isn’t finished?
HMS Screwdriver
New User
Nice to see Murray winning singles matches at big stage again. Definitely my no. 1 run this AO.
itrium84
Hall of Fame
Ironman!All these guys did epic inspirational stuff aged 35 at the AO. So let’s rank the runs:
4. Djokovic 2023 (could change depending on later rounds)
3. Federer 2017 = Nadal 2022
1.
Haha, I already have to smile about you not even having a shared SECOND place behind the winner like it would normally be. No, after Andy it's only a shared THIRD place.All these guys did epic inspirational stuff aged 35 at the AO. So let’s rank the runs:
4. Djokovic 2023 (could change depending on later rounds)
3. Federer 2017 = Nadal 2022
1.
StrongRule
G.O.A.T.
Federer still didn't have to face Djokovic, nobody cares for what reason. It doesn't make his draw tougher. Thank Istomin for that title.
Federer defeated Berdych - Nishikori - Wawrinka - Nadal (all Top 10 players at that time). Who did Nadal beat ? Choking mugs like Shapo and Med ? Federer' fourth round opponet was far better than Nadal's final one Lol.
kevaninho
Hall of Fame
Federer was also lucky in 2017 , that he had no Djokovic to fight for titles.
maratha_warrior
Hall of Fame
Federer 2017 > Nadal 2022
kevaninho
Hall of Fame
Ahhh its ok to call the number 2 seed a choking mug cos Nadal beat him. But lets not remember the narrative ,of how many times Nishikori became injured, or that Fed faced an unseeded opponent in the QF ( LOL ),or that Nadal had barely played for 6 months leading into that AO 17 .
Nadal defeated the number 2 seed, and number 7 seed in the last 2 rounds.
I think it stands up just as much as Federers 2017 win.
NatF
Bionic Poster
lol no. Fed hadn't played for even longer than Nadal in 2017 and was coming back from knee surgery to boot. There's absolutely no comparison between 2017 Fed and 2022 Nadal on a level of play basis either. Nadal from 2017 would have crushed his 2022 self and he lost to Federer. As for the rest of the draws none of Federer's opponents were choking messes either like Shapo or a lesser extent Med. Nadal's win was epic in it's own way but it doesn't stand up next to Federer's.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Federer 2017 is the cream.
Federer defeated fellow Big 3 and another former AO champion. End.
Julius Caesar
Semi-Pro
Tiley already settled everything up so that it will have a happy serbian ending.
initialize
Hall of Fame
Djokovic will win this AO but nothing about it will be epic. He’s literally playing mug after mug. I guess the “hamstring injury” is Nole’s attempt to try to make it seem like he has to hurdle over a mountain to win the title lol
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Way too early to talk about epic runs.
StrongRule
G.O.A.T.
Even if Federer had a tougher draw (though hyping Berdych and Nishikori is not serious), it is surely not due to the BS reason this new user wrote. They both didn't face Djokovic. The reason of not facing him doesn't affect the difficulty.
DSH
G.O.A.T.
Nadal_King
Hall of Fame
Federer 2017 better than all but what Nadal did from set 3 to 5 in 2022 final was better than anything Roger did in 2017
DSH
G.O.A.T.
Remember that until the 2021 edition the Australian Open semifinals were played on different days and Federer had that privilege in 2017.
If they had already been played on the same day in that edition, Federer would not have become champion.
NatF
Bionic Poster
Remember that until the 2021 edition the Australian Open semifinals were played on different days and Federer had that privilege in 2017.
If they had already been played on the same day in that edition, Federer would not have become champion.
If Fed wasn't nursing a groin injury he beats Nadal in straights like every other time they met that year
DSH
G.O.A.T.
If Nadal hadn't choked, he would have beaten him like he always did in GS tournaments.If Fed wasn't nursing a groin injury he beats Nadal in straights like every other time they met that year
rick kerr
Hall of Fame
Federer deserved to be lucky because he is already 5 years older than Nadal, at 35 this is a big deal, it is not a deal at 30, not at 31, but a big deal at 35. Plus Fed was already facing 4 top 10 seeds and potentially would have faced a 5th as well if Misha had not beaten Sir Andrew. So I would say, Federer deserved whatever luck he got in AO 17, it was a well deserved win. Novak was a part of the draw, he lost in second round for whatever reason but it is not the same as politics removing him from the draw in 2022. So Federer's win is 100% legit and strong win with or without facing Novak since Novak was in the draw and lost.
StrongRule
G.O.A.T.
He still didn't have to face Djokovic. The reason of that doesn't affect the difficulty.
Federers 2017 >>>> Nadal tbhAll these guys did epic inspirational stuff aged 35 at the AO. So let’s rank the runs:
4. Djokovic 2023 (could change depending on later rounds)
3. Federer 2017 = Nadal 2022
1.
He would have beaten djokovic in 2017 even if they faced. But i doubt 2022 Nadal could have beaten Djoker at AO 2022
StrongRule
G.O.A.T.
Given that he played three 5 set matches, this is far from a sure thing.
Yeah thats why Nadal got his ass whooped in 3 later meetings that year. Federer 2017 was a nightmare for Nadal everywhere aside clay. He even decimated Nadal on IWs and miami where courts are slow as deadIf Nadal hadn't choked, he would have beaten him like he always did in GS tournaments.
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
Given Novak lost to Istomin, I’d say the chances are pretty good.
rick kerr
Hall of Fame
Context is always important. Only reason why Novak fans always mention AO2022 is because of political interference which removed him from the draw, instead of that had he lost in 1st week to someone nobody would have ever mentioned about asterisks. Politics should have no place in our sport but injuries/shock defeats are a part of the game. If Novak loses next match then nobody has any moral right to question Tsitsipas/Rune if they win the title on Sunday.
That having said, yes a fit Novak would have 100% beaten Federer in 2017, but nevertheless it is an epic win, perhaps the most epic AO win I witnessed in last 20 years, even more epic than AO12 final despite much lower in quality/playing level. Epicness is epicness. Federer at 35.5 beating Nadal was a very special experience.
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Cry hard...Nadal had a cakewalk draw facing Next Gen Chokers.Remember that until the 2021 edition the Australian Open semifinals were played on different days and Federer had that privilege in 2017.
If they had already been played on the same day in that edition, Federer would not have become champion.
If you are discrediting Fed then are you agreeing to the fact that 2017 version Nadal is even worse than Medvedev.
DSH
G.O.A.T.
Does best-of-three-set tournaments matter now, when Federer fans puffed up their chests by saying that the only important thing was Grand Slam events?
DSH
G.O.A.T.
I'm just saying something clear and that you should admit: playing the semifinals of a GS tournament on different days is wrong but happily the organizers of the Australian Open (after more than two decades) they corrected that and since the last edition both matches are played on the same day, as it always should have been.
Amritia
Hall of Fame
I don’t understand why Djokovic fans keep bringing this up when it exposes the fact their hero exposed children and an elderly journalist to covid knowingly and without telling them.
StrongRule
G.O.A.T.
It doesn't always work this way, you know. In AO 2016 against Simon, Djokovic played worse than he did against Istomin, and we know how it ended. He was in decent form in Doha 2017, and had he survived the match against Istomin, he might have upped his level.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Fed's level was simply higher.
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
It doesn’t always work this way, true, but given Djokovic’s form in surrounding events, the Istomin loss is indicative of a large trend rather than a one-off like the Simon match. It’s possible he could have improved his level after the Istomin match, but I wouldn’t bet on it.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Not at all. Nadal had barely played for 6 months, but what about Fed?
mike danny
Bionic Poster
As good as Fed's 2017 AO was, it will not beat Nadal's 2009 AO and Djokovic's 2012 AO.
spottishwood
Hall of Fame
LOL at People arguing 35 YO Nadal > 30 YO Nadal.
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