Rankings before 1973 (calculated)

Grgisme

Rookie
Im sorry if I'm the 100th man to ask the same question but I couldnt find any info regarding the no. 1 rankings before 1973?

Did anyone tried to calculate that? Is there a list of weeks at no. 1 from 1880s until 1973?
 

jm1980

Talk Tennis Guru
I'm afraid that's impossible, in large part due to the fragmented nature of the tour. Some publications and tennis experts would rank the players based on their own criteria, though
 

HipRotation

Hall of Fame
`There was no computer rankings before the introduction of the ATP in 1973, hence no statistics before that. Before that people just worked out seedings from previous results at tournaments and how sports journalists like Lance Tingay would rank players.

Plus the tennis world was different with the amatuer and pro scenes. For example, one might think Roy Emerson was the #1 player in the mid 60s but he was playing in the amatuer only events that barred the professional players like Ken Rosewall Rod Laver, Pancho Gonzales who were all considered better than him.
 
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Grgisme

Rookie
I know there were no computer rankings before 1973, I was just asking if anyone made a list based on the current way of ranking. That would be a huge job
 

timnz

Legend
I know there were no computer rankings before 1973, I was just asking if anyone made a list based on the current way of ranking. That would be a huge job
There is no 'right' way of doing this. Wikipedia for sure isn't 'right', but you might find the discussion interesting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_number_1_ranked_male_tennis_players

For instance I disagree with having Tilden as number 1 in 1922 (Johnson should have been clear number 1). It appeared that this was largely based on 1921 form. But at least you are seeing a little of the discussion
 

The Blond Blur

G.O.A.T.
There is no 'right' way of doing this. Wikipedia for sure isn't 'right', but you might find the discussion interesting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_number_1_ranked_male_tennis_players

For instance I disagree with having Tilden as number 1 in 1922 (Johnson should have been clear number 1). It appeared that this was largely based on 1921 form. But at least you are seeing a little of the discussion

I couldn't tell you the number of times I got away with using Wikipedia as a "source" :laughing:
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urban

Legend
There are exact week by week calculations for the years 1968-1973, following the ATP system by a poster Slasher. It on the internet on a different forum on mens tennis i cannot cite here. Slasher has Rod Laver as Nr. 1 for 187 weeks. The Side "Tennis Base" has calculations for the whole Mens Tennis history. You can find it on the internet.
 

timnz

Legend
There are exact week by week calculations for the years 1968-1973, following the ATP system by a poster Slasher. It on the internet on a different forum on mens tennis i cannot cite here. Slasher has Rod Laver as Nr. 1 for 187 weeks. The Side "Tennis Base" has calculations for the whole Mens Tennis history. You can find it on the internet.
Its interesting, if you regard that Laver was the number 1 say 1/2 the time he was in the pro's from Jan 1963 to April 68 - it you add half those weeks to 187 - it comes out around 308 - near Federer's number.
 

urban

Legend
Tennis Base has calculated Laver overall for 402 weeks at Nr.1, including 287 weeks en suite. He is second there behind Tilden, who has over 600 weeks.
 

ABCD

Hall of Fame
Tennis Base has calculated Laver overall for 402 weeks at Nr.1, including 287 weeks en suite. He is second there behind Tilden, who has over 600 weeks.

This is all pale when compared to Henry VIII of England who was calculated to be 1100 weeks at No1.
 
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