Raonic's preparation

vanioMan

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In Melbourne, we read that you were sleeping in a room with air conditioning set at 19.44 ° C, ideal temperature for you to recover better...
For the 0.44, it was not so simple. I could only control the 19 degrees...

Did it work ?
I slept better. But, obviously, it did not work well, with the results I had there (eliminated in the quarter-finals by Nadal in three sets) ...But I try to take that kind of things into consideration, especially with all the injuries I've had. I try to be very meticulous. In my preparation, I try to control the things I can influence. On the court, during the game, there is basically little that you can control once you get started. I try to be disciplined and effective.

To what extent ?
For example, when I wake up, I try to find out what energy I will have for the day ahead. I check my heartbeats every morning to see if I have recovered enough, or not. And I adapt the training to this observation. If the data shows that I am not in shape, questions arise. It can come from the effort of the day before. If it lasts, it may mean that you have to start changing something. Take a little rest. If the data is bad and you have little training, it may mean you are sick. And we have to stop this before it gets worse.

Since when are you like that? Let's say ... cerebral?
You know, my parents are engineers. Maybe that's why it's hard to do something aimlessly. I'm not that kind of guy who says "Oh, I'm in the mood to do that, let's try it." No, it must make sense. I always wanted to try to be better. Going deeply. I always wanted to have a clear understanding of what I do, why I do this or that in training. I do not do things to do things. And then when you get hurt and you're sidelined, one has more time ... You look at what you can do best when you return to the circuit. If I was injured, something must necessarily change. It cannot be just chance. You shouldn't be arrogant with that.

But when you think too much, it can be dangerous in tennis, right?
All the top players are smart guys. Of course you must have instinct, but you have to be aware of what's going on.
As far as I'm concerned, it's not that I think too much when I'm on the court, it's when I'm away from tennis. But it can be tiring to take into account all aspects, especially when things do not go in your direction. Even me, I ask myself, "Is it really so important?"

For example ?
On sleep. What time do you go to bed? What should I eat before going to bed? If for two nights I woke up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom, the next night I take some protein, twenty minutes before going to bed, and I do not wake up any more. It can go down to that kind of little things. Maybe it's too much. But I do not want my success, or my lack of success, to happen without doing the best I could.

The "sleeve" was also to enhance the performance?
The first time I used it was to protect my skin, because of a sunburn. Afterwards, I kept it for a while as it was comfortable. It was neither medical nor for performance.

And then there's the mouthpiece ...
It helps me a lot. I'm a very cerebral type, as you said earlier, I think a lot. During the night, it causes tension. You can bite yourself so it prevents me from doing it during night which allows me to sleep better.

What are your new research fields?

I try to change the routine in my preparation, focusing more and more on the cardio, on the court. If I need to be fitter, I play longer. For the diet, I have evolved, too. Over the last four years, I was taking supplements to compensate for any deficiencies, because there were plenty of foods that I did not eat. But supplements are over. I calculate everything I eat, and everything must be natural.

We suppose you're fine-tuning the mind, too?
I work with someone, but I also do meditation at the end of the day. You know why ? Because I have a lot of mental fatigue by dint of thinking of all these things!

Source: https://www.lequipe.fr/Tennis/Article/Milos-raonic-je-suis-un-gars-tres-cerebral/817576
 
Everyone keeps saying how the up and comers are useless and don't try etc, and then you read this.
Mayyybe, the weak era stuff is nonsense and Federer/Djokovic/Nadal are just that good, no?

I hope Milos keeps improving and does well. He clearly has the right attitude and is not resigned to losing.
 
His sleeve was for sunburn??

His mouthguard was to sleep better, so he wears it during the day?!

Questions..... so many questions
 
Everyone keeps saying how the up and comers are useless and don't try etc, and then you read this.
Mayyybe, the weak era stuff is nonsense and Federer/Djokovic/Nadal are just that good, no?

I hope Milos keeps improving and does well. He clearly has the right attitude and is not resigned to losing.

He tries, is ultra professional but is still "useless." It would be a disaster for tennis if a guy with a monster serve but an obvious lack of coordination on other shots became number 1. Death by boredom through game style and robotic personality.
 
He tries, is ultra professional but is still "useless." It would be a disaster for tennis if a guy with a monster serve but an obvious lack of coordination on other shots became number 1. Death by boredom through game style and robotic personality.
But I could say the same thing about a one-dimensional grinder who rolls in the serve and doesn't know what a net is. There are several of them around.
 
Raonic, Zverev, Nishikori are all working hard players. They lack something else, not the right attitude.
 
How did you sleep during the clay court season, vive?

:D
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How did you sleep during the clay court season, vive?

:D

As much as possible, perhaps?o_O

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Regarding Raonic, I like the cool customer way he handles business on court

I've formed an impression from his facial expressions that he's not very intelligent in general (don't mean that in a nasty way and could be completely wrong)

Reading this interview hasn't exactly changed that impression

Lots of players are superstitious but they don't delude themselves into thinking there's a rhyme or reason to their rituals, like Raonic seems to have... that's what I'm getting from this read
 
that is very interesting nonetheless, very intriguing as it is the first time that i have heard about tracking heartbeats to measure recovery, will look into that more to see whats that all about.

at the same time you wonder if he is doing too much, like with the classic example of having kid A who has plenty of money- buys the best shoes, raquet and rdi fit clothes and has plain oats before playing against kid B who just woke up- had maybe some fries and is playing with an old raquet with string close to breaking and despite beats the rich kid easily, just because kid A overlooked the other important parts that include training until you can no more, pushing yourself all the time and have that sense of not having a cushion to fall back onto in case of losing.

i wonder if its just too much that he does that he ends up in a similar zone to kid A, of course he is very different a he has already done more than enough to become good, but at the same time with all the injuries he has had, you can understand why he is so meticulous to avoid any in the future, think of it when a player gets injured you as a viewer go on with your life watching other players, your job goes on and life is the same, but for pro athlete it stops suddenly and for an amount of time that is out of control, how would you feel if all of a sudden you had to stop working for a few months, no pay included and besides you love what you do so you are also losing on doing the thing you love the most as well for x period of time, its like being tied to a bed and be allowed to get out of the room for months
 
But I could say the same thing about a one-dimensional grinder who rolls in the serve and doesn't know what a net is. There are several of them around.

You could, but the difference to my mind is that the serve is an uncontested shot. Anyway, I think the game's safe from the servebot at least for the time being: Raonic is never making number 1.
 
that is very interesting nonetheless, very intriguing as it is the first time that i have heard about tracking heartbeats to measure recovery, will look into that more to see whats that all about.

at the same time you wonder if he is doing too much, like with the classic example of having kid A who has plenty of money- buys the best shoes, raquet and rdi fit clothes and has plain oats before playing against kid B who just woke up- had maybe some fries and is playing with an old raquet with string close to breaking and despite beats the rich kid easily, just because kid A overlooked the other important parts that include training until you can no more, pushing yourself all the time and have that sense of not having a cushion to fall back onto in case of losing.

i wonder if its just too much that he does that he ends up in a similar zone to kid A, of course he is very different a he has already done more than enough to become good, but at the same time with all the injuries he has had, you can understand why he is so meticulous to avoid any in the future, think of it when a player gets injured you as a viewer go on with your life watching other players, your job goes on and life is the same, but for pro athlete it stops suddenly and for an amount of time that is out of control, how would you feel if all of a sudden you had to stop working for a few months, no pay included and besides you love what you do so you are also losing on doing the thing you love the most as well for x period of time, its like being tied to a bed and be allowed to get out of the room for months

So meticulous is his preparation that he plays with no imagination.
 
that is very interesting nonetheless, very intriguing as it is the first time that i have heard about tracking heartbeats to measure recovery, will look into that more to see whats that all about.

Maybe he uses the Masimo MightySat. At least he had some sense not to be in those stupid commercials with Coco Vandeweghe and Taylor Fritz.
 
You could, but the difference to my mind is that the serve is an uncontested shot. Anyway, I think the game's safe from the servebot at least for the time being: Raonic is never making number 1.
If he develops a more complete game, I think he could, and if he's a more complete player I would love to see that.

The key is that he clearly cares about improving. That's commendable, however he currently plays.
 
If he develops a more complete game, I think he could, and if he's a more complete player I would love to see that.

The key is that he clearly cares about improving. That's commendable, however he currently plays.

He definitely could become number 1 if he developed a more complete game. Problem is that he's been diligently trying to develop a more complete game for years without it happening. The one time I did see him play very well off the ground was against Federer in Brisbane a couple of years ago. From memory Federer won a tight match, but Raonic was basically red lining on every shot reducing Federer at times to an aggravated spectator.
 
He definitely could become number 1 if he developed a more complete game. Problem is that he's been diligently trying to develop a more complete game for years without it happening. The one time I did see him play very well off the ground was against Federer in Brisbane a couple of years ago. From memory Federer won a tight match, but Raonic was basically red lining on every shot reducing Federer at times to an aggravated spectator.
I remember that match.
Perhaps you will end up being correct, but I wish him the best.
 
In Melbourne, we read that you were sleeping in a room with air conditioning set at 19.44 ° C, ideal temperature for you to recover better...
For the 0.44, it was not so simple. I could only control the 19 degrees...

Did it work ?
I slept better. But, obviously, it did not work well, with the results I had there (eliminated in the quarter-finals by Nadal in three sets) ...But I try to take that kind of things into consideration, especially with all the injuries I've had. I try to be very meticulous. In my preparation, I try to control the things I can influence. On the court, during the game, there is basically little that you can control once you get started. I try to be disciplined and effective.

To what extent ?
For example, when I wake up, I try to find out what energy I will have for the day ahead. I check my heartbeats every morning to see if I have recovered enough, or not. And I adapt the training to this observation. If the data shows that I am not in shape, questions arise. It can come from the effort of the day before. If it lasts, it may mean that you have to start changing something. Take a little rest. If the data is bad and you have little training, it may mean you are sick. And we have to stop this before it gets worse.

Since when are you like that? Let's say ... cerebral?
You know, my parents are engineers. Maybe that's why it's hard to do something aimlessly. I'm not that kind of guy who says "Oh, I'm in the mood to do that, let's try it." No, it must make sense. I always wanted to try to be better. Going deeply. I always wanted to have a clear understanding of what I do, why I do this or that in training. I do not do things to do things. And then when you get hurt and you're sidelined, one has more time ... You look at what you can do best when you return to the circuit. If I was injured, something must necessarily change. It cannot be just chance. You shouldn't be arrogant with that.

But when you think too much, it can be dangerous in tennis, right?
All the top players are smart guys. Of course you must have instinct, but you have to be aware of what's going on.
As far as I'm concerned, it's not that I think too much when I'm on the court, it's when I'm away from tennis. But it can be tiring to take into account all aspects, especially when things do not go in your direction. Even me, I ask myself, "Is it really so important?"

For example ?
On sleep. What time do you go to bed? What should I eat before going to bed? If for two nights I woke up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom, the next night I take some protein, twenty minutes before going to bed, and I do not wake up any more. It can go down to that kind of little things. Maybe it's too much. But I do not want my success, or my lack of success, to happen without doing the best I could.

The "sleeve" was also to enhance the performance?
The first time I used it was to protect my skin, because of a sunburn. Afterwards, I kept it for a while as it was comfortable. It was neither medical nor for performance.

And then there's the mouthpiece ...
It helps me a lot. I'm a very cerebral type, as you said earlier, I think a lot. During the night, it causes tension. You can bite yourself so it prevents me from doing it during night which allows me to sleep better.

What are your new research fields?

I try to change the routine in my preparation, focusing more and more on the cardio, on the court. If I need to be fitter, I play longer. For the diet, I have evolved, too. Over the last four years, I was taking supplements to compensate for any deficiencies, because there were plenty of foods that I did not eat. But supplements are over. I calculate everything I eat, and everything must be natural.

We suppose you're fine-tuning the mind, too?
I work with someone, but I also do meditation at the end of the day. You know why ? Because I have a lot of mental fatigue by dint of thinking of all these things!

Source: https://www.lequipe.fr/Tennis/Article/Milos-raonic-je-suis-un-gars-tres-cerebral/817576

All this perfectionism with off court preparation, how much does it add? Federer's got 4 kids under about 5. His off court life/preparation is probably a shambles. Beyond making sure you're physically fit and don't have a hangover, are you really less likely to dump a backhand on break point into the net if the room you slept in last night was 19.4 degrees.
 
It sounds sort of like a forest for the trees type deal, but I think he is mindful of maximizing his strengths. Working on preventing injuries for him and Kei is paramount, so I can understand paying attention to every detail of his body. Kind of crazy though... a pro athlete's body is everything - 24/7. I only used my brain for my job, but It didn't stop me from drinking on weekends - despite hurting my brain, needed for my job. I can't imagine worrying about how anything I eat or drink is affecting my brain...and that's how these guys have to be with their bodies....
 
Its seems a bit too much but I could be wrong. If he has this kind of robotic routine it would be hard for him to come out on court, relax and play his game. His mind would be constanly "do that", "not this", "why that shot" and eventualy he would be overthinking. This routine may work till the 4th - QF rounds against lower ranked players but once he reaches the Big 5 in the final stages he needs something extra, something from the heart, something that comes naturaly to him.
 
Honestly I think this mentality will hold him back from being a great. It's almost like he's giving himself pre-emptive reasons why he cant win. Great players win no matter the circumstances. How many times has Nadal won a major whilst carrying a niggling injury. You can't be walking onto the court worrying that you didnt get enough sleep at the optimum temperature or shortening your practice because your heartbeat is slightly faster than yesterday

Raonic seems to withdraw from tournaments and matches more often than others. Seems like he's becoming a hypochondriac
 
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