Rare injury-need advice after 2+ years

TennisCanada1

TennisCanada1

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For those about to read this, thanks in advance. I was a highly ranked Canadian open player a few years ago, but in July 2014 during a practice, I can't remember if it was on one serve in particular or if it was from serving in general that day, but I felt pain in my forearm flexor after that practice. I didn't think much of it, and went to physio, got treatment, and took a week or so off. Unfortunately, it didn't get better. To be clear, it isn't where GE is. Mine is right near the bone. My weird issue is that I can hit forehands and backhands for 3 hours if I want to, and I feel NO pain, not even 1% pain. However, when I serve, I don't feel pain, but I feel it the next day when I wake up. It's like a delayed on set. If I take 5 light serves then I won't feel it the next day, but anything with a moderate amount of pace, and more than 10 or so serves, and I'll feel it. I went for an MRI in 2014, as well as xray, ultrasound, etc, and it all came back normal except for "minor edema of the ulnar nerve" I had a bit of ulnar nerve finger numbness last year, maybe 3-4 times, but then never got it again. I went to several physios/chiros and tried everything under the sun. acupuncture, electroacupuncture, ultrasound, stretching, strength exercises, rest, massage, shockwave therapy, etc. I went to one physio who thought it was a nervous system issue and I did nerve flossing exercises, but no matter what I did, nothing improved. I saw orthopaedic surgeons who had no clue. One of them suggested I take an extended amount of time off, so I took 4 months off and it didn't help at all. Then last August I tried a PRP injection, because I went to some doctor who told me based on his in house ultrasound that I had a 7mm tear. I took 6 months off without touching a racquet and came back this February. During that time I had graston done and light stretching. He said the 'tear closed'. However, it didn't work. I went to a different sports doctor who did an ultrasound and told me that I probably never had a tear in the first place. Nontheless, here I am 26 months later, and I have this freak injury where I can hit groundstrokes as long as I want with no pain, but I can't serve. I've been playing for more than 15 years, and my serve technique didn't radically change or anything. If any of you smart folks have any advice or out of the box ideas, please send them my way.. I just want to get back to playing a tennis match one day in my life..
 
I'd recommend New England Baptist Hospital in Boston if you haven't already tried a top Ortho hospital.

As a pragmatic thing, you could try serving left-handed. I have a friend that serves left-handed but plays every other stroke rightie. I don't know why he does this but it works for him.
 
Wow, sorry to hear that you're still having issues.

OTOH, I remember that you had switched hands and looked pretty damn good hitting with your opposite hand. Dunno if you tried serving that way.

I know I recommended someone to you; too bad that didn't work out.

What happened to that other therapist that got you a little relief from the hip work that the therapist did? I'm still convinced that there's another area of the body that's attributing to your continued symptoms that's been missed like misaligned pelvis or a tricep or rib restriction.

Too bad you don't live around my neck of the woods; would love to take a crack at your case.....your complex and perplexing story are our clinic's typical patient.

Good luck.
 
movdqa said:
I'd recommend New England Baptist Hospital in Boston if you haven't already tried a top Ortho hospital.

As a pragmatic thing, you could try serving left-handed. I have a friend that serves left-handed but plays every other stroke rightie. I don't know why he does this but it works for him.
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Hey thanks for your reply. Is there anyone specific at that hospital in Boston, or are they known to be good at atypical cases in general?
I've actually started serving lefty a little bit but its not the same thrill as serving as a righty of course, but yea.
 
RogueFLIP said:
Wow, sorry to hear that you're still having issues.

OTOH, I remember that you had switched hands and looked pretty damn good hitting with your opposite hand. Dunno if you tried serving that way.

I know I recommended someone to you; too bad that didn't work out.

What happened to that other therapist that got you a little relief from the hip work that the therapist did? I'm still convinced that there's another area of the body that's attributing to your continued symptoms that's been missed like misaligned pelvis or a tricep or rib restriction.

Too bad you don't live around my neck of the woods; would love to take a crack at your case.....your complex and perplexing story are our clinic's typical patient.

Good luck.
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Good memory! Thanks for your kind words. I ended up playing with my right hand. My level is far greater, and I enjoy it much, much more. If push comes to shove then I'll eventually have to develop a lefty serve, but I'd really like to one day serve normally again. I really don't understand how it's possible that another part of my body could cause my arm to hurt specifically just from my serve and not any other stroke, but you're the professional so I'm sure you have a reason that I just don't know. To be honest I'm not sure which therapist you're referring to because I've been to SO many, it's unfortunate, I'm sick of going to clinics it's like de ja vu at this point, but yea.
 
I hear ya. Like I said, I sympathize with your situation as I hear your scenario all day.

You'd have to look at the thread you created back in the day....there was a particular post you made about getting complete relief (albeit short) after some therapist worked on your hip. Maybe you could cross reference the day you posted that with your schedule to see who you worked with.

I do remember you also had some hip/hips injury that could be related.

Tug down on your shirt and you can feel the pull by your neck and collar. So you may feel it by your neck and collar and you can treat that all you want, but until you release the pressure from you pulling down on your shirt, your neck will never resolve fully.


I've treated a college pitcher before with a similar story as yours. Right elbow pain with pitching, but not with any other activities. Pitched for a college associated with one of the best hospitals in the area so ran the gamut of tests, doctors, therapists, you name it, he saw 'em.

Finally referred to us as his mother's neighbor was a patient of ours.

Long story short, he had a major imbalance in his pelvis that needed to be corrected. But no one looked at it bc it wasn't the elbow or near the elbow. But it was pretty damn obvious just looking at the posture in total and not focusing on symptomatic sites.

Once the pelvis was corrected and the restrictions were released, no more elbow pain and was able to go back to pitching with no issues. Now by no means was it a miracle cure, that he got better after one or two treatments. Took a little time, I can't recall exactly, but I do remember it was most of the summer.

So think of it like a rope, one end connected to the hip and the other to the elbow. That somehow when the arm was outstretched, it was pulling both ends taut causing pain. By correcting the pelvic imbalance (and of course working on the elbow) basically I was able to lengthen the rope so when the arm was outstretched it was no longer taut. Oversimplified but hope that analogy makes sense.
 
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TennisCanada1 said:
Hey thanks for your reply. Is there anyone specific at that hospital in Boston, or are they known to be good at atypical cases in general?
I've actually started serving lefty a little bit but its not the same thrill as serving as a righty of course, but yea.
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They are known as a great orthopedic hospital. My mother had spine curvature in the 1990s and they had a doctor there that pioneered the procedure to put a steel rod in the back to prevent additional curvature. They are also the folks that take care of the major sports teams in Boston.
 
Have you tried serving with a totally different grip (kind of mimicking a ground stroke but overhead) compared to what you normally use?
 
RogueFLIP said:
I hear ya. Like I said, I sympathize with your situation as I hear your scenario all day.

You'd have to look at the thread you created back in the day....there was a particular post you made about getting complete relief (albeit short) after some therapist worked on your hip. Maybe you could cross reference the day you posted that with your schedule to see who you worked with.

I do remember you also had some hip/hips injury that could be related.

Tug down on your shirt and you can feel the pull by your neck and collar. So you may feel it by your neck and collar and you can treat that all you want, but until you release the pressure from you pulling down on your shirt, your neck will never resolve fully.


I've treated a college pitcher before with a similar story as yours. Right elbow pain with pitching, but not with any other activities. Pitched for a college associated with one of the best hospitals in the area so ran the gamut of tests, doctors, therapists, you name it, he saw 'em.

Finally referred to us as his mother's neighbor was a patient of ours.

Long story short, he had a major imbalance in his pelvis that needed to be corrected. But no one looked at it bc it wasn't the elbow or near the elbow. But it was pretty damn obvious just looking at the posture in total and not focusing on symptomatic sites.

Once the pelvis was corrected and the restrictions were released, no more elbow pain and was able to go back to pitching with no issues. Now by no means was it a miracle cure, that he got better after one or two treatments. Took a little time, I can't recall exactly, but I do remember it was most of the summer.

So think of it like a rope, one end connected to the hip and the other to the elbow. That somehow when the arm was outstretched, it was pulling both ends taut causing pain. By correcting the pelvic imbalance (and of course working on the elbow) basically I was able to lengthen the rope so when the arm was outstretched it was no longer taut. Oversimplified but hope that analogy makes sense.
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Everything you said makes complete sense and I completely agree that it's a possibility. What would you do at this point if you were in my shoes? I went to a physio last week and she told me that since my left leg is longer than my right leg, it aligns with my symptoms of having left food plantar fasciitis and having a right knee issue below the kneecap. I've had left foot pf for 4 months and a right knee issue for about 1.5 months. She told me my it band and quad are particularly tight on the right side so to stretch it out, and she put a lift in my right shoe. I think it might be bs because last year I got custom orthodics and the podiatrist saw the leg length discrepancy so she changed the angle of one of my orthodics to compensate for the difference in length, so I wore those orthodics for at least 6 months and it didn't make a difference because then I had right food PF which was why I went to get them in the first place. I know this is unrelated but I thought it was worth mentioning because MAYBE it has to do with my forearm flexor. I had right food pf last year that finally went away, but besides that, I haven't worked out for a month and my knee is still bad despite the ultrasound and xray coming back 100% normal, so it seems like my body doesn't heal on its own properly but I don't know why and I don't know what on earth to do at this point.
 
movdqa said:
They are known as a great orthopedic hospital. My mother had spine curvature in the 1990s and they had a doctor there that pioneered the procedure to put a steel rod in the back to prevent additional curvature. They are also the folks that take care of the major sports teams in Boston.
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Thank you I will definitely look into this.
 
RogueFLIP said:
I hear ya. Like I said, I sympathize with your situation as I hear your scenario all day.

You'd have to look at the thread you created back in the day....there was a particular post you made about getting complete relief (albeit short) after some therapist worked on your hip. Maybe you could cross reference the day you posted that with your schedule to see who you worked with.

I do remember you also had some hip/hips injury that could be related.

Tug down on your shirt and you can feel the pull by your neck and collar. So you may feel it by your neck and collar and you can treat that all you want, but until you release the pressure from you pulling down on your shirt, your neck will never resolve fully.


I've treated a college pitcher before with a similar story as yours. Right elbow pain with pitching, but not with any other activities. Pitched for a college associated with one of the best hospitals in the area so ran the gamut of tests, doctors, therapists, you name it, he saw 'em.

Finally referred to us as his mother's neighbor was a patient of ours.

Long story short, he had a major imbalance in his pelvis that needed to be corrected. But no one looked at it bc it wasn't the elbow or near the elbow. But it was pretty damn obvious just looking at the posture in total and not focusing on symptomatic sites.

Once the pelvis was corrected and the restrictions were released, no more elbow pain and was able to go back to pitching with no issues. Now by no means was it a miracle cure, that he got better after one or two treatments. Took a little time, I can't recall exactly, but I do remember it was most of the summer.

So think of it like a rope, one end connected to the hip and the other to the elbow. That somehow when the arm was outstretched, it was pulling both ends taut causing pain. By correcting the pelvic imbalance (and of course working on the elbow) basically I was able to lengthen the rope so when the arm was outstretched it was no longer taut. Oversimplified but hope that analogy makes sense.
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Oh yea and that same physio said that my forearm flexor issue is probably due to lack of flexibility in my back because she said I'll end up using other body parts to compensate for that lack of flexibility but I don't believe in that either because I have no issue on the forehand and backhand and when she explained that to me she was inferring that it applied to all my shots even though I told her it is only the serve that I cannot do. Nonetheless thanks for your time and for your responses.
 
TennisCanada1 said:
I'm reaching out to a close knitted community on here firstly, and secondly it doesn't warrant sarcastic and unhelpful 'ideas' that are more of a mockery than an idea.
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Buddy, your LH tennis level is better than my RH level!!! If we play right now you win LH no question. If you served 100 balls a day you'd have a 5.0 serve in a summer.

Your call but I think your lefty level is pretty dang high. My 2c.
 
Sambuccashake said:
@TennisCanada1 Have you tried serving with a different grip?
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Hey, sorry I thought I replied to you before but I didn't! Thanks for the suggestion. I can certainly try your suggestion. I'm just wondering, lets say I serve with a pancake grip instead of a traditional continental grip, and it doesn't hurt.. is that the point of your suggestion, to deduce my symptoms down to the pronation?
 
TennisCanada1 said:
Hey, sorry I thought I replied to you before but I didn't! Thanks for the suggestion. I can certainly try your suggestion. I'm just wondering, lets say I serve with a pancake grip instead of a traditional continental grip, and it doesn't hurt.. is that the point of your suggestion, to deduce my symptoms down to the pronation?
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Something like that, yes.
I mean, no other stroke in your arsenal seem to bother you so it "must" have something to do with the pronation.

Even if there is just the slightest improvement, at least there will be something to keep investigating and looking into further.
 
TennisCanada1 said:
Hey, sorry I thought I replied to you before but I didn't! Thanks for the suggestion. I can certainly try your suggestion. I'm just wondering, lets say I serve with a pancake grip instead of a traditional continental grip, and it doesn't hurt.. is that the point of your suggestion, to deduce my symptoms down to the pronation?
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Get a green theraband flex bar, and twist it into upside down U, and then twist it shoulder to shoulder for 30 reps, 3 x daily, speeding up as you grow stronger. Keep doing it for a month, and your problem will heal if you: tighten your core/abdomen, as if you are trying to force your self to increase blood pressure very strongly, and "aim" it towards the painful area, for two second bursts, 10 reps, 3 x daily.
 
Sambuccashake said:
Something like that, yes.
I mean, no other stroke in your arsenal seem to bother you so it "must" have something to do with the pronation.

Even if there is just the slightest improvement, at least there will be something to keep investigating and looking into further.
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Ok thanks, I'm going to serve lefty tonight, so after I will hit about 25 serves righty with a complete pancake grip, and will see if there is pain tomorrow morning. If I did 25 serves at at least 40% effort with a continental grip, I'd definitely wake up with pain.
 
kiteboard said:
Get a green theraband flex bar, and twist it into upside down U, and then twist it shoulder to shoulder for 30 reps, 3 x daily, speeding up as you grow stronger. Keep doing it for a month, and your problem will heal if you: tighten your core/abdomen, as if you are trying to force your self to increase blood pressure very strongly, and "aim" it towards the painful area, for two second bursts, 10 reps, 3 x daily.
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Thanks for your reply kiteboard. I've actually been using the green theraband with no luck unfortunately. I've bene doing 5 exercises with it ( 1) twisting from the top like I'm opening a lid 2) pretension with left hand and twist down with right hand 3) pretension with left hand and twist up with right hand 4) U twist to emulate an arm wrestle 5) U twist in reverse) For both 4 and 5 the other end of the theraband is on the table so I am making a U predominantly with the force of my forearm flexor tendon.
 
TennisCanada1 said:
I went to a physio last week and she told me that since my left leg is longer than my right leg, it aligns with my symptoms of having left food plantar fasciitis and having a right knee issue below the kneecap. I've had left foot pf for 4 months and a right knee issue for about 1.5 months. She told me my it band and quad are particularly tight on the right side so to stretch it out, and she put a lift in my right shoe. I think it might be bs because last year I got custom orthodics and the podiatrist saw the leg length discrepancy so she changed the angle of one of my orthodics to compensate for the difference in length, so I wore those orthodics for at least 6 months and it didn't make a difference because then I had right food PF which was why I went to get them in the first place.
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Couple points:

Everyone's got a leg length discrepancy, off by couple millimeters to centimeters. Actually the only true way to measure for it is to take an Xray of your legs and measure that way. But most of the time, people adapt and don't have problems.

But all of a sudden you've developed a issue with your foot and knee and it's bc of a leg length issue? Why didn't you develop issues after you stopped growing?

IME, yes leg length can be a factor, but that's bc it's again coming from an imbalance of the pelvis and hips. Upslips and rotations of the hips can easily give the illusion of one length being longer or shorter than the other.

So now when you've changed the balance point of your foundation (pelvis), up and down the chain you will walk slightly different and hit the ground differently. Forces distributed to your extremities now have changed and you may develop compensations and tightness which can lead to pain.

Did your therapist or podiatrist check the alignment of your pelvis and hips? Maybe they figured out if you were out of whack, maybe not. But if their solution is to put a lift in there, that's just...well...no IMO.

I'd have tried to figure out what's causing the leg length issue and correct that. Bc maybe then you wouldn't need the lift. And then maybe you could take the pressure off the knee and foot and it could finally start to heal on its own.

Obviously not the biggest fan of orthotics....and even less of lifts....


TennisCanada1 said:
I know this is unrelated but I thought it was worth mentioning because MAYBE it has to do with my forearm flexor. I had right food pf last year that finally went away, but besides that, I haven't worked out for a month and my knee is still bad despite the ultrasound and xray coming back 100% normal, so it seems like my body doesn't heal on its own properly but I don't know why and I don't know what on earth to do at this point.
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I believe everything is all connected. I've always suspected (but of course without seeing or examining you I'm just guessing) that your issues with your elbow had connections to your other injuries.

First thing I do when dealing with a situation like yours is to always look at what the pelvis is doing and try to correct that. Like I said, it's the foundation of your body. People like to say its the feet, but I respectfully disagree.

So when the foundation is off, the rest of your body has to essentially "brace" and hold itself against the imbalance and I find that to be a big factor in why diagnostic tests come back 100% normal and why ppl's bodies can't seem to heal on it's own and they don't know why. Of course there's a lot more to it than that, but I'm trying to keep it simple.


TennisCanada1 said:
What would you do at this point if you were in my shoes?
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1. I'd get the most current picture whether it's an ultrasound or MRI of my elbow to rule out any structural issue in the elbow/arm.
2. Consider going to a doctor or therapist who treats professional overhead throwing athletes (baseball, volleyball, tennis). Ideally you'd want them to look at your serving mechanics to see if there's any "hitches" or "glitches" that may be putting any undue tension on your elbow. Then they could correlate anything they find with your physical examination. Hopefully they prescribe to understanding that it's a whole body thing. If they and you can understand the kinetic chain concept on how generating power at the racket starts in the feet and hips, then dealing with an injury can also follow the same concept.

To put my spin on the Sherlock Holmes quote....when you've tried all that is possible and failed, you must consider the impossible and improbable. You've been treating the elbow for however long you've been treating it for. And you still have a problem. Maybe it's time to consider that it's not coming from the elbow. Bc if it was, you'd think all those smart people with all their degrees and science would have figured it out by now, no?

3. You have to prepare yourself that there is not going to be a miracle cure. Sure you might get some relief short term, but no one has a miracle cure. Just mentally prepare yourself for that.

4. Practice the lefty stuff if you really want to. Got a friend who's like that. Strong 4.0 as a righty but decided to figure out how to play lefty just because. And plays 4.0 tennis lefty when he wants to. Serves, volleys, overheads. You'd never know which hand he started playing with if you saw him. Crazy. That was my impression of your lefty stuff.

Good luck.
 
TennisCanada1 said:
Thanks for your reply kiteboard. I've actually been using the green theraband with no luck unfortunately. I've bene doing 5 exercises with it ( 1) twisting from the top like I'm opening a lid 2) pretension with left hand and twist down with right hand 3) pretension with left hand and twist up with right hand 4) U twist to emulate an arm wrestle 5) U twist in reverse) For both 4 and 5 the other end of the theraband is on the table so I am making a U predominantly with the force of my forearm flexor tendon.
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Do the exercise as I describe, using the chi force from your core or it won't work.
 
RogueFLIP said:
Couple points:

Everyone's got a leg length discrepancy, off by couple millimeters to centimeters. Actually the only true way to measure for it is to take an Xray of your legs and measure that way. But most of the time, people adapt and don't have problems.

But all of a sudden you've developed a issue with your foot and knee and it's bc of a leg length issue? Why didn't you develop issues after you stopped growing?

IME, yes leg length can be a factor, but that's bc it's again coming from an imbalance of the pelvis and hips. Upslips and rotations of the hips can easily give the illusion of one length being longer or shorter than the other.

So now when you've changed the balance point of your foundation (pelvis), up and down the chain you will walk slightly different and hit the ground differently. Forces distributed to your extremities now have changed and you may develop compensations and tightness which can lead to pain.

Did your therapist or podiatrist check the alignment of your pelvis and hips? Maybe they figured out if you were out of whack, maybe not. But if their solution is to put a lift in there, that's just...well...no IMO.

I'd have tried to figure out what's causing the leg length issue and correct that. Bc maybe then you wouldn't need the lift. And then maybe you could take the pressure off the knee and foot and it could finally start to heal on its own.

Obviously not the biggest fan of orthotics....and even less of lifts....




I believe everything is all connected. I've always suspected (but of course without seeing or examining you I'm just guessing) that your issues with your elbow had connections to your other injuries.

First thing I do when dealing with a situation like yours is to always look at what the pelvis is doing and try to correct that. Like I said, it's the foundation of your body. People like to say its the feet, but I respectfully disagree.

So when the foundation is off, the rest of your body has to essentially "brace" and hold itself against the imbalance and I find that to be a big factor in why diagnostic tests come back 100% normal and why ppl's bodies can't seem to heal on it's own and they don't know why. Of course there's a lot more to it than that, but I'm trying to keep it simple.




1. I'd get the most current picture whether it's an ultrasound or MRI of my elbow to rule out any structural issue in the elbow/arm.
2. Consider going to a doctor or therapist who treats professional overhead throwing athletes (baseball, volleyball, tennis). Ideally you'd want them to look at your serving mechanics to see if there's any "hitches" or "glitches" that may be putting any undue tension on your elbow. Then they could correlate anything they find with your physical examination. Hopefully they prescribe to understanding that it's a whole body thing. If they and you can understand the kinetic chain concept on how generating power at the racket starts in the feet and hips, then dealing with an injury can also follow the same concept.

To put my spin on the Sherlock Holmes quote....when you've tried all that is possible and failed, you must consider the impossible and improbable. You've been treating the elbow for however long you've been treating it for. And you still have a problem. Maybe it's time to consider that it's not coming from the elbow. Bc if it was, you'd think all those smart people with all their degrees and science would have figured it out by now, no?

3. You have to prepare yourself that there is not going to be a miracle cure. Sure you might get some relief short term, but no one has a miracle cure. Just mentally prepare yourself for that.

4. Practice the lefty stuff if you really want to. Got a friend who's like that. Strong 4.0 as a righty but decided to figure out how to play lefty just because. And plays 4.0 tennis lefty when he wants to. Serves, volleys, overheads. You'd never know which hand he started playing with if you saw him. Crazy. That was my impression of your lefty stuff.

Good luck.
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Sorry for being MIA I wrote my lsat so I put myself in isolation for the past week, but I do appreciate everything you wrote!
I know nothing as I'm not a medical professional but I still agree with you 100% about the leg length and how it's not a factor in my case and how there is something else as the main culprit whether it's my pelvis or hips or etc. They said my left hip bone is higher than my right hip bone.

As for all of your advice, yes I will definitely follow your steps, and I'm actually very confused now because the weirdest thing happened. I went to take lefty serves with a basket of balls for the first time in probably 6 months, and even when I did serve in the past, I've probably served lefty 10-15 times in my life at this point, but the point is that I served for an hour in a half, but the first half of that was at the service line just trying to get the pronation feeling down, and then I did some from the baseline but at a moderate speed..and when I woke up the next morning, while I had shoulder soreness which is expected since I don't normally use the muscle, I had forearm flexor pain in the EXACT same spot as with my right arm. It makes me as confused as ever. I haven't served since.
 
Sambuccashake said:
How's it going @TennisCanada1?
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Hey thanks for checking up :)
I couldn't serve with a pancake grip the ball would literally shank all over the place haha. To be fair I didn't try more than 3 or 4 though..
but just to repeat what I said above to RogueFlip just now,...

I'm actually very confused now because the weirdest thing happened. I went to take lefty serves with a basket of balls for the first time in probably 6 months, and even when I did serve in the past, I've probably served lefty 10-15 times in my life at this point, but the point is that I served for an hour in a half, but the first half of that was at the service line just trying to get the pronation feeling down, and then I did some from the baseline but at a moderate speed..and when I woke up the next morning, while I had shoulder soreness which is expected since I don't normally use the muscle, I had forearm flexor pain in the EXACT same spot as with my right arm. It makes me as confused as ever. I haven't served since.
 
If anything this makes me feel like I do NOT have structural damage in my forearm flexor afterall. I mean, the pain was much worse on the right side than the left, but the fact that I felt that exact same sensation of pain, even though to a lesser degree, on my left arm, that just shows me that there is something going on that isn't local.
 
Hrmmm that is actually very interesting and at the same time confusing.
You're either genetically not designed for serving or something on your serve (both sides nonetheless) was changed fundamentally.

Do you suffer equally strong pains when you serve using more forgiving strings and racquets?

On that note, what is your current setup?
 
Sambuccashake said:
Hrmmm that is actually very interesting and at the same time confusing.
You're either genetically not designed for serving or something on your serve (both sides nonetheless) was changed fundamentally.

Do you suffer equally strong pains when you serve using more forgiving strings and racquets?

On that note, what is your current setup?
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It's weird because I've been serving and playing competitively since I was 7, and now many, many years later this comes out of nowhere. I have equally strong pains no matter what equipment I use. It's more about how many serves I take and how hard I hit them.

Right now I use the Babolat Pure control with these specs:

Final Specs without overgrip : St. W : 341 gr, S W : 329 kg/Cm2. with alu power 50lbs.

But I've used a dozen different racquets with lighter weights, natural gut, full synthetic, hybrids etc etc
 
Sambuccashake said:
Any progress at all?
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I was beginning to think that it was my shoulder this whole time for some reason (that my forearm flexor was overcompensating for a lack of shoulder strength or flexibility) but I've been doing the throwers 10 more or less for 3 weeks and hasnt really made a difference.
I decided to just ignore the pain and serve. I served today and played a full match, which was amazing, but my arm felt like it was going to fall off by the end.
 
TennisCanada1 said:
I was beginning to think that it was my shoulder this whole time for some reason (that my forearm flexor was overcompensating for a lack of shoulder strength or flexibility) but I've been doing the throwers 10 more or less for 3 weeks and hasnt really made a difference.
I decided to just ignore the pain and serve. I served today and played a full match, which was amazing, but my arm felt like it was going to fall off by the end.
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I'm sorry to hear that...
 
I've ready your other thread in it's entirety. I have nothing to add other than I truly wish you the best. Don't give up! I don't follow most of the medical stuff because I don't understand the details- but head to a Boston hospital that someone suggested. I know everyone says this but Boston has some of the best in the world. Best of luck.
 
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