Rate 3 of my serves (twist included)

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***VIDEO*** Rate 3 of my serves (twist included)

Hi everyone,

This is me serving about 3 years ago. I might serve differently now but this video was originally made because my friend wanted to copy some of my serves to get better.

The first serve i hit is a topspin-slice down the T, the second one is a topspin 2nd serve into the body and the last one is a twist out wide.

I always wonder what my NTRP is and am curious of what everyone thinks about my serves.

All comments/critiques/questions/opinions/tips/advice are welcomed!

thanks for taking the time!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iTV8Z2qlfUo (back view)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0Z6M31tZdEA (side view)- sorry, i dont know how to flip the video so this one is sideways!

Enjoy!
 
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lemoneatrz said:
Hi everyone,

This is me serving about 3 years ago. I might serve differently now but this video was originally made because my friend wanted to copy some of my serves to get better.

The first serve i hit is a topspin-slice down the T, the second one is a topspin 2nd serve into the body and the last one is a twist out wide.

I always wonder what my NTRP is and am curious of what everyone thinks about my serves.

All comments/critiques/questions/opinions/tips/advice are welcomed!

thanks for taking the time!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iTV8Z2qlfUo (back view)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0Z6M31tZdEA (side view)- sorry, i dont know how to flip the video so this one is sideways!

Enjoy!
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to me they look good. fast motion when preparing. you like like the bryan brothers. throw the ball up and smack it lol. but your kick is excellent. maybe toss the ball a little higher is what i'd say. serve looks like a good 4.0-4.5 maybe?
 
abenguyen said:
to me they look good. fast motion when preparing. you like like the bryan brothers. throw the ball up and smack it lol. but your kick is excellent. maybe toss the ball a little higher is what i'd say. serve looks like a good 4.0-4.5 maybe?
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yeah, i do have a pretty fast motion but usually when i am playing in sets, i bounce the ball a few times first.

i have actually never seen the bryan brothers serve but i hope its good!

as for my kick, are you talking about the 2nd serve i hit in the video or the 3rd one?

i have also always had a problem with tossing it short but its kinda what i am used to, i dont really know the benefit of tossing it higher but i guess it can be something i try and work on.

i need to know my NTRP for a tournament coming up, maybe i'll make a video of the rest of my strokes sometime soon!
 
AlpineCadet said:
What would you rate yourself as?
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hmm, thats a good question, i have always wondered....

I have more than these 3 kinds of serves, so i mix those up pretty much in match play including a pretty god flat, medoricre slice, above average sidespin. I also mix of speeds.

as for my strokes, i have just okay hands and volleys with a western FH that is pretty good and an average backhand.

my movement and footwork are abover average and my speed is one of my biggest weapons

with all that said, i might be around a 3.5-4.0 but the system is kinda hard to interpret so im trying to let other decide.

also keep in mind that i dont use the prince graphite anymore since it broke and that video was a few years back, i didnt play as often before but i have been playing at least twice a week as of late.

are you around the pasadena area? I work over there.
 
Hard to give you a rating just based on a serve. I would need to see your ground strokes and maybe even volleys to give you an honest answer. I agree with lemoneatrz it looks like you need to toss the ball a bit higher. You said your not sure of the benefit. Well if you toss a little higher and make contact higher you will have a greater angle of incident (sp) and the ball will kick up higher at your oponent. Also it will allow you to get better pronation to your wrist, thus adding some more power. It kind of hard to tell speed from video but it looks to me like about 3.5 to 4.0 serves. The rest of your game would determine better.
 
Blade0324 said:
Hard to give you a rating just based on a serve. I would need to see your ground strokes and maybe even volleys to give you an honest answer. I agree with lemoneatrz it looks like you need to toss the ball a bit higher. You said your not sure of the benefit. Well if you toss a little higher and make contact higher you will have a greater angle of incident (sp) and the ball will kick up higher at your oponent. Also it will allow you to get better pronation to your wrist, thus adding some more power. It kind of hard to tell speed from video but it looks to me like about 3.5 to 4.0 serves. The rest of your game would determine better.
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yeah, its hard to just determine on just 3 different serves! i'll make some new videos during the winter break. Like i have said, i have been working on tossing it higher! so thanks for pointing that one out! i'll see what i can do to improve that!!
 
volusiano said:
Nice serves. Do you have to move along the baseline like that for the 3 different placements?
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thanks! No, i dont have to move along the baseline for the different angles but when my friend recorded me, he wanted to see the differences so i aimed for 3 different spots and served at 3 different places.
 
lol hey i used to play at those pcc courts with my team before they tore it down. we play at the cal tech courts now. if you want to hit with us, come by weds at 6p.
 
lordmanji said:
lol hey i used to play at those pcc courts with my team before they tore it down. we play at the cal tech courts now. if you want to hit with us, come by weds at 6p.
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are you a private or christian high school because i hit with a group of them before. What team are you? I play at UCLA now. Serena was here yesterday by the way. but if i ever go to pasadena i might drop by
 
AlpineCadet said:
Yeah, everyone else, including 5.0+'s say I'm at least a 4.0, but I really disagree with them. Let me email you. :)
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I dont know about the NTRP because some say that if you are ranked, that you are at least 5.5, i was ranked and i dont think i am as good as some 5.5s

I really need to get a ideo of all my strokes for your guys to tell.
 
This is Miles, I've hit with you a couple times at practice, but I usually only go like every other week. If you wanna hit around sometime, I brought my video camera down and I actually took a vid with it the other day and made a post, but the girl I was hitting with was kinda softballing me so I was actually looking for someone to hit around harder with. So if your interested let me know, miles623@gmail.com, or hit me up through facebook sometime.
 
mmeyer1 said:
This is Miles, I've hit with you a couple times at practice, but I usually only go like every other week. If you wanna hit around sometime, I brought my video camera down and I actually took a vid with it the other day and made a post, but the girl I was hitting with was kinda softballing me so I was actually looking for someone to hit around harder with. So if your interested let me know, miles623@gmail.com, or hit me up through facebook sometime.
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Ohh cool, i probably dont know you by name but i'll find you on facebook when i get back to the dorm.

we should definetly hit some time, im always down to hit as long as school isnt in the way.

where are you housing at?
 
It depends on whether those were 1st or 2nd serves. If they were 1st, you can get so much more power out of your serve..
 
Duzza said:
It depends on whether those were 1st or 2nd serves. If they were 1st, you can get so much more power out of your serve..
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The 1st one was a about 70-75% type first serve, kinda like one that you just want to get in. the 2nd was my normal 2nd serve and the 3rd is a twist that i just throw in every so often.

I can usually get more power if i wanted to but serving a high percentage and not giving free points from double faults help and I dont really like hitting flat serves that often, but i have been clocked at over 100 at the UCLA courts.
 
Yo, I will be done with finals byThursday, should be free by the mid afternoon, like after 5PM. You interested in hitting sometime then? I'm leaving for my hometown on Saturday, and I will probably be way to hung over to hold a tennis racket on Friday lol. Oh yeah I'm not living on campus, I got an apt. on Kelton Ave.
 
mmeyer1 said:
Yo, I will be done with finals byThursday, should be free by the mid afternoon, like after 5PM. You interested in hitting sometime then? I'm leaving for my hometown on Saturday, and I will probably be way to hung over to hold a tennis racket on Friday lol. Oh yeah I'm not living on campus, I got an apt. on Kelton Ave.
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cool, i'll facebook you or you can facebook me before so we can reserve a court and know exactly what time. good luck on your finals
 
Does anyone have a guess what how fast my serves are? I've been clocked but that was ust me hitting my hardest so i am not sure how fast (or slow) these serves are.
 
JackSkellington said:
I'll play you and judge what NTRP you are :) I'm in the LA/Pasadena area as well. As for the serve speed...too hard to judge from a video =X
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lol, if i am in the area, i have winter break in a week and we can see what my NTRP is. i just want to know my serve speed when it is not when i try to hit my hardest.
 
lemoneatrz said:
lol, if i am in the area, i have winter break in a week and we can see what my NTRP is. i just want to know my serve speed when it is not when i try to hit my hardest.
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I played at Caltech tonight, and we drove by the PCC courts. (They were GONE!)

find me at: (my user name at gmail.com)
 
AlpineCadet said:
I played at Caltech tonight, and we drove by the PCC courts. (They were GONE!)

find me at: (my user name at gmail.com)
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yeah, i know the PCC ones are gone, they are going to rebuild them on the top of a tech building....im guessing by the end of summer

how often do you play and all? are you a high NTRP player?
 
DUde no way you are a 3.5. Judging by your service motion you look to be a 4.0 low-high. 3.5s dont even have good service motions. Jeez people 3.5 my ass.
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One more question does UCLA have like a intermural tennis club. I thought only uc berkeley had one. If so thats freaking awesome. How good are the players at the UCLA tennis club.
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RoddickistheMan said:
One more question does UCLA have like a intermural tennis club. I thought only uc berkeley had one. If so thats freaking awesome. How good are the players at the UCLA tennis club.
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UCLA doesnt have a intermural tennis club, but they do have intermural tennis, which i played in and they have club tennis which i am in also (the two are different)

the club has a travel team also which haver pretty good players

most of the other players in club are pretty good, i was intimadated at first but i think i fit in pretty well now, most of them are around my level, some better, some worse but still pretty good

are you attending UCLA or planning on doing so?
 
RoddickistheMan said:
Hell Yes. I play for my local junior college team right now. Im a 4.5 right now. Dude thats freaking sick. The UCLA club sounds interesting.
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yeah, did you get in UCLA already? where do you play?

yeah club is awesome you travel to play other schools too.

4.5 is really good man!
 
RiosTheGenius said:
throw that ball up man... a little sloppy too. since you don't seem very tall, try to reach up a little more
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yeah...i'll try to adjust, since this was 3 years ago, it might have changed but i dont know cuz i havent made a video since

can you tell me which parts are slopping so i can try to clean it up?

and by the way, i am about 5'10 or so give or take an inch... not too sure

what do you mean by reach, will a higher toss allow me to reach higher?
 
RoddickistheMan said:
Somewhere between a low and high 4.0. I cant tell because I havent seen the rest of your stroke.s Your serve however doesnt look like a 3.5 serve. #.5s are border line dinkers when it comes to serving.
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ohh cool! i didnt think my serve was up there. since i thought 3.5s were pretty hard to get to already. i for sure do not ever dink a serve!

the rest of my strokes will come soon!
 
lemoneatrz said:
yeah, did you get in UCLA already? where do you play?

yeah club is awesome you travel to play other schools too.

4.5 is really good man!
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Ill find out in may. I play for Santa Rosa Junior College. When you play for the UCLA club team do you get to play on the nice ass courts that they have in the stadium. Those courts are really nice.
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