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Curious

G.O.A.T.
You could’ve made the overhead at 6:49 if you were properly side on.
Oops! That’s your opponent, right?
Oops again it was you! I didn’t know it was your opponent’s YouTube channel.
 
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AnyPUG

Hall of Fame
Let me bite. First 3 minutes feedback.

1 why not split step on serve return?
2 When playing the net, recover with two steps forward and not one step back to swat the volley away
3 stop falling back and over-rotating on forehands, (weight xfer fwd and not back)

enough for the next 6 months to work on.
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
Come on! I've worked so hard to improve. :) At least tell me there's been some change in my game (if not my belly).
Hmm, ok… your shoes match. Sorry, not seen your game before so can’t really comment on any changes.

Oh, language! Well, at least you seem to be passionate about your game and appear to be having fun.

You might try getting your L hand on the racket sooner. This should help to keep your R arm relaxed and keep it from fatiguing. Your grip should be relaxed most of the time — say a grip force of 2 or 3 out of 10. It might increase to 5 or 6 right before contact but then relax again after you hear your own contact. Getting your L hand back on the racket at the end of your follow-thru (or very shortly after) should help to keep the R arm relaxed. Easier to accelerate a relaxed arm than a tight or fatigued arm.

You should learn how to stop from over-running your shots when you are pulled out wide. Too many extra steps after you hit will slow down your recovery for your next shot.

If you find yourself hitting with a neutral or closed stance as you execute your forward swing & contact, then bring the other leg around to put on the brakes — so that you are not taking 2 or 3 extra steps after contact.

If you are open or semi-open (stance) during your fwd swing and contact, then execute a Mogul Move (aka Mogul step). This will help to keep you from over-running the shot and will vastly improve your footwork recovery time
 
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SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
Take a look at the serve return footwork that Ryan talks about in the 2nd vid I posted. Andy Murrray, an outstanding serve returner, employs this type of footwork sequence. As the server tosses the ball, take a large step forward with either leg. Andy usually steps with his inside leg (the one closest to the center of court), but you can use whichever feels more comfortable to you.

Andy then executes a split step during the server’s upward swing so that he is at the top of his SS hop when he sees or hears the server’s contact.

With this sequence, you are syncing yourself up to your opponent’s serve so that you can react quickly & appropriately. The rhythm of your Step + Split Step will depend on the rhythm of the server.

If they have a low toss or a quick serve rhythm, then your Step + SS will be pretty quick (or abbbreviated). If their toss is high or their rhythm moderate or slow, then your Step + SS will be more deliberate and somewhat slower (perhaps with a longer Step)
 

andrehanderson

Professional
Thanks for the feedback. Based on the video alone, what would your guess be as to NTRP rating? (I know it doesn't work like that)
 

andrehanderson

Professional
Thanks. I have a lot of technical flaws, but I think what distinguishes my level from being a solid 4.0 vs a 3.5 is my physical condition. I'm working on it alongside my technical improvements.
 

andrehanderson

Professional
By the way, a good portion of the match I was extremely angry and distracted because of some pickleballers who took over the tennis court next to us because their pickleball courts were full. Our balls would occasionally go over into their court and they wouldn't even throw them back to us. I sort of lost control of my shots once the anger reached a certain point.
 

badmice2

Professional
Thanks. I have a lot of technical flaws, but I think what distinguishes my level from being a solid 4.0 vs a 3.5 is my physical condition. I'm working on it alongside my technical improvements.
Respectfully disagree.

The flip side to also look at - if you focus on your execution a little better, the odds of a poorly hit shot by your opponent is higher. Therefore, as long as you recover and get to the next right place at the right time, you can work to get the other side off balance.

I believe you are more technically sound than you think. There are some shots where If you can get to the ball on balance and find a good contact, I believe you can do a lot more. At the moment if you watch yourself transition from shot to shot, you put yourself on a dead run majority of the time.
 

andrehanderson

Professional
Respectfully disagree.

The flip side to also look at - if you focus on your execution a little better, the odds of a poorly hit shot by your opponent is higher. Therefore, as long as you recover and get to the next right place at the right time, you can work to get the other side off balance.

I believe you are more technically sound than you think. There are some shots where If you can get to the ball on balance and find a good contact, I believe you can do a lot more. At the moment if you watch yourself transition from shot to shot, you put yourself on a dead run majority of the time.
That's very helpful, thank you
 

MGArchitect

New User
3.5. maybe 4.0
Biggest thing you need to work on is footwork. I don't think I saw many split steps at all, let alone serve return like other people have mentioned. You should be performing it on practically every shot by your opponent, unless you are already running across the court anticipating something. Not doing the split step makes you a step slower to move in any direction you have to move. Somewhere around 6:50, you even completely stop with your feet separated when it looks like you are about to split step, but you don't. You need to really deliberately practice the split step so it becomes an ingrained part of your tennis. Your stroke mechanics are reasonable, but when you are late to a ball because you are not quick off your toes, you don't have time to execute it properly.
 

TennisDawg

Hall of Fame
You’re a decent rec player. What is your record against 3.5, 4.0, or even 4.5 players? Yes rating is based on tennis strokes but also how well you compete.
 

Daniel Andrade

Hall of Fame
You are playing well. I'm pretty sure you will receive lots of useful feedback but for me the one I think you could implement right now is to cut on unnecessary unforced errors. Some unforced errors are unavoidable but I think many come from bad choices, like attempting to do something we do not have the tools to attempt yet. Try to always hit to big targets, and think of hitting the ball deep rather than trying to hit it hard, even if it means reducing the speed of the ball and giving yourself some margin above the net.
 

andrehanderson

Professional
You’re a decent rec player. What is your record against 3.5, 4.0, or even 4.5 players? Yes rating is based on tennis strokes but also how well you compete.

I havent competed in a long time. I played varsity high school tennis and then took a long break. Picked it back up 10 years ago and have only competed a handful of times in southern California (I now live in Texas). I competed in a league against 4.0s in Los Angeles and had about a 50% win rate.
 
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Jono123

Semi-Pro
Haha, I'm the opponent (whacker). :)

Now I can see why you upset the people on the adjacent court :p

My revised assessment of your game : Solid serve, especially the slice. Good FH to base your future game around. Your BH is random and needs earlier prep with a more grooved stroke. So less flat and more low to high.

Your UE's are way too high and shot selection needs to be more conservative until you can pull the trigger. Play some dubs to develop your net game.
 
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andrehanderson

Professional
That's great feedback, thank you. Crazy thing is my backhand is usually my better weapon, but Ive focused so much on my forehand lately that I think it's deteriorated.

 

andrehanderson

Professional
I said it on YT when ya'll started posting again, good to see ya back on court.
What is your current rating?
I havent been playing any utr or other events, but my partner in the video is undefeated against all of the 6-7 UTRs in his league. I don't know what that equates to in NTRP though
 

ChaelAZ

G.O.A.T.
I havent been playing any utr or other events, but my partner in the video is undefeated against all of the 6-7 UTRs in his league. I don't know what that equates to in NTRP though

Gotcha. Always hard to base your own competitive rating on the rating of someone else's play in practices. I know a while back you talked about playing matches in a league or tourney yourself, so just go for it man! It is always different when something is on the line.

Still trying to get out that way and we can all hit. Cheers.
 

AnyPUG

Hall of Fame
That's great feedback, thank you. Crazy thing is my backhand is usually my better weapon, but Ive focused so much on my forehand lately that I think it's deteriorated.


You were split stepping on April 7th video, but not on 23rd video?? Knowing what we know now, how are we supposed to say anything useful to you? It could have been an off day.
 

andrehanderson

Professional
That's a good point. I usually split step on every shot, but dont even know why I was doing it less the last time I played.
 

slipgrip93

Professional
I recently bought a ball machine. Any tips on how I should use it to help with my specific weaknesses?

Maybe have it oscillating (if it's capable) on random shots so you can practice your forehand consistency after having to move/run into positioning?
There's also a bunch of ball machine related drills videos that Meike Babel has on her channel which can be found by typing keywords on the search on
her channel's videos page. (example)

Come on! I've worked so hard to improve. :) At least tell me there's been some change in my game (if not my belly).

I'm not qualified myself (i'm probably just 3.0 myself with some 'good' shots on practice i.e. I have passed 4.0 players at the net with my 1hbh and
often rally with 1hbh instead of slice out of lifelong habit; Meike's videos has finally helped improved my slice to stay low and non-floating after decades of frustration),
but my 2c guess is that your movement has improved, just need improvement on clean prep and hitting after (defensively sometime) moving into position. Good non-slice 1hbh as usual.
I'm not sure if you seen this yet?, but here's a great video by Meike on footwork: ("Move Like The Pros - 2 Tennis Footwork Patterns You Can Copy")
 
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andrehanderson

Professional
Maybe have it oscillating (if it's capable) on random shots so you can practice your forehand consistency after having to move/run into positioning?
There's also a bunch of ball machine related drills videos that Meike Babel has on her channel which can be found by typing keywords on the search on
her channel's videos page. (example)



I'm not qualified myself (i'm probably just 3.0 myself with some 'good' shots on practice i.e. I have passed 4.0 players at the net with my 1hbh and
often rally with 1hbh instead of slice out of lifelong habit; Meike's videos has finally helped improved my slice to stay low and non-floating after decades of frustration),
but my 2c guess is that your movement has improved, just need improvement on clean prep and hitting after (defensively sometime) moving into position. Good non-slice 1hbh as usual.
I'm not sure if you seen this yet?, but here's a great video by Meike on footwork: ("Move Like The Pros - 2 Tennis Footwork Patterns You Can Copy")
Thank you so much for the feedback and recommendation!
 
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